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[John M. Roll]

Looking for suggestions for a backup for my 32sc. I want to be prepared in the event that the board goes down. 

[Thomas Le]

Not sure of Presonus' implementation but in MT land, I can have my x32 rack act as a stagebox to my m32r. Sweetwater has a bundle where they sell the 32sc with the 16r so I guess that may be the same approach?

[Matt Vivlamore]

are you not confident in the Presonus?  Might be time to sell it and buy something with a better track record.

[Brian Jojade]

are you not confident in the Presonus?  Might be time to sell it and buy something with a better track record.

All digital boards are computers, and can unexpectedly fail.  If you don't have a backup plan and the board goes down, it's show over time.

I had a show last year where there was a lighting strike nearby that ended up completely taking out 2 out of 3 of my X32's in use for the event, and one AES port on the 3rd.  Had I not had a spare in the truck, the show wouldn't have gone on.

Now, I do really like the X32 implementation where you can use X32 racks as stage boxes.  If you lose one piece, you can scramble and use one of the other pieces as a fully functioning system.  Each of my amp racks contains an X32 rack for that reason.  Worst case scenario I can usually patch things in a way to get sound flowing again when crap hits the fan.

[John M. Roll]

Looking for suggestions for a backup for my 32sc. I want to be prepared in the event that the board goes down.

Do you think an MR18 would be overkill for this task? I looked at the Presonus 16r, but am having a hard time justifying the cost for something that'll basically be there on standby.

[Brian Jojade]

Do you think an MR18 would be overkill for this task? I looked at the Presonus 16r, but am having a hard time justifying the cost for something that'll basically be there on standby.

What's your game plan to get the backup in place?  If you've got to drop in an entirely different mixer, are you going to have a mix ready that you can simply load up and go, or are you going to have to start from scratch?

If it's going to take too long to get the backup in place, your show may be over before you can get back online.

I'm not completely familiar with the current presonus line, so I don't know how compatible they are regarding show files and whatnot.  With the X32/M32 line, it's as simple as saving your show to a USB stick once you've done soundcheck, and if you had to load that onto a backup console, it's a 2 minute process and you're back in business exactly where you left off.  Note that the MR18 is a completely different family, so it doesn't play along the same way.

If you start mixing and matching things for backup, you might save a few dollars, but then when time comes to implement said backup when seconds count, you may end up regretting that decision.

[Craig Hauber]

Do you think an MR18 would be overkill for this task? I looked at the Presonus 16r, but am having a hard time justifying the cost for something that'll basically be there on standby.

Can't the 16r serve stage box duty for your mixer?  (Or is that only the newest models?)
 
That would be ideal for backup.  If surface goes down just jump on PC or tablet and continue because everything is still patched exactly as you had it for the big surface.
-You can even do a quick soundcheck in that mode so switchover will be minimally painless if it happens.

[Sean Anderson]

Yes it can. It will load files from the bigger boards but only the first 16 channels and 6 mixes. Nothing wrong here if you only ever use 16 channels. I would get a 24r, that'll be a straight load if you use more. This is what I do.

[Scott Holtzman]

What's your game plan to get the backup in place?  If you've got to drop in an entirely different mixer, are you going to have a mix ready that you can simply load up and go, or are you going to have to start from scratch?

If it's going to take too long to get the backup in place, your show may be over before you can get back online.

I'm not completely familiar with the current presonus line, so I don't know how compatible they are regarding show files and whatnot.  With the X32/M32 line, it's as simple as saving your show to a USB stick once you've done soundcheck, and if you had to load that onto a backup console, it's a 2 minute process and you're back in business exactly where you left off.  Note that the MR18 is a completely different family, so it doesn't play along the same way.

If you start mixing and matching things for backup, you might save a few dollars, but then when time comes to implement said backup when seconds count, you may end up regretting that decision.

It's even easier there is a utility that backs up your console and restores it to another machine.  I think the latest version allows you to do changes to routing and some scene safes. IIRC.  https://sourceforge.net/projects/x32livetoolbox/


Wow it's really been updated since the last time, You should be able to script exactly what you want with this. 

[John M. Roll]

It's even easier there is a utility that backs up your console and restores it to another machine.  I think the latest version allows you to do changes to routing and some scene safes. IIRC.  https://sourceforge.net/projects/x32livetoolbox/


Wow it's really been updated since the last time, You should be able to script exactly what you want with this.

Scott,
Are you saying that I can backup the Presonus and restore it to an MR18 with this utility?

John

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