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Author Topic: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card  (Read 7007 times)

Chris Yoon

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Hi,

I was wondering if it was possible to setup the Yamaha LS9 to my computer DAW over a Wifi / network connection through the standard Cat5 plug that is in the back of the mixer without having to purchase / use the I/O card slots.

I know this can be done for the iPad for the Stage Mix Software but I also simultaneously need to record multi-track on my computer for mastering/post-prod purposes after a live FOH type session. I dont want a combined track but a totally controllable mastering that I could do after recording the live session.

Let me know if this is possible!
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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 03:55:37 AM »

No
You will need a card as the Cat5 does not include audio.
LS9-16 will need one...the 32 will need 2
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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 11:37:57 AM »

No
You will need a card as the Cat5 does not include audio.
LS9-16 will need one...the 32 will need 2

Can you do a multi-track recording and be able to master each channel in post-production without using I/O slots at all? I dont want to purchase anything crazy here
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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 11:50:58 AM »

Can you do a multi-track recording and be able to master each channel in post-production without using I/O slots at all? I dont want to purchase anything crazy here
WYSIWYG.  If you have enough available outputs from your desk to go to your recorder then yes, otherwise no.

You may find it cheaper to switch desks to one that can do recording internally than to outfit your LS9, though the ADAT cards are dropping in price, so if you're willing to get an ADAT interface for your computer and a couple MY-16AT cards, that could be another option.
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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 12:13:17 PM »

Can you do a multi-track recording and be able to master each channel in post-production without using I/O slots at all? I dont want to purchase anything crazy here

As has been mentioned, the short answer is no.

If you must use the LS9, you'd need a mic splitter and computer interface with as many inputs as you need to record.

Many newer, less expensive consoles have a recording interface built in so it may be easier to change consoles than to stick with the LS9.

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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 12:19:58 PM »

Can you do a multi-track recording and be able to master each channel in post-production without using I/O slots at all? I dont want to purchase anything crazy here

No.  RTFM.
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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 01:47:51 PM »

As has been mentioned, the short answer is no.

If you must use the LS9, you'd need a mic splitter and computer interface with as many inputs as you need to record.

Many newer, less expensive consoles have a recording interface built in so it may be easier to change consoles than to stick with the LS9.

Which consoles do you recommend?
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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2017, 02:12:54 PM »

......... so instead of purchasing the right card(s) to work in your LS9, you prefer to just purchase another entire console?

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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2017, 02:32:58 PM »

Which consoles do you recommend?

I presume recording is secondary use.  What is the primary use of this mixer?  FOH from music events?  Theater?  Corporate presentations?  How much fader real estate does your work flow require?

What equipment and software do you currently use and/or intend to use with a new console?

Are there any other special considerations - mechanical, physical or electro?
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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2017, 02:36:20 PM »

......... so instead of purchasing the right card(s) to work in your LS9, you prefer to just purchase another entire console?

-Ray
Depending on his needs, an Allen&Heath QU series or Behringer X32 series may be a better fit than outfitting the LS9 - non-Dante cards will require an IO interface on the PC plus the cards, and the Dante card(s) aren't cheap either.

The desks listed above can record direct to PC via USB which may be a cheaper overall solution.  Or not.
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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2017, 03:17:02 PM »

Define crazy.  A pair of Yamaha MY Dante cards plus a Dante Virtual Soundcard license is probably within a couple hundred dollars of the cost of a full size Behringer X32, perhaps more than a small frame version. MY cards from Ebay might bring the investment down closer to $1K but cheap isn't on the menu for 24+ tracks.  Staying in the Yamaha universe might have some value for you and used Dante cards might hold resale value longer than an X32.  Looking over the Behringer forums might give some insight into life in that universe but most of the users there are musicians rather than sound pros so S/N is less than optimal.

Can you do a multi-track recording and be able to master each channel in post-production without using I/O slots at all? I dont want to purchase anything crazy here

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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2017, 12:00:32 AM »

Which consoles do you recommend?

Off the top of my head, X32 and Allen & Heath QU will act as a computer interface. The QU will record 16 mono tracks plus a stereo track straight to a USB drive with no computer, or 32 channels via USB to a computer.


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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2017, 10:35:00 AM »

Which consoles do you recommend?

What are your uses? Knowing what you use the console for will help with good answers.

For me, I have Dante cards for all my digital desks. Makes it easy for me.


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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2017, 06:43:05 PM »

......... so instead of purchasing the right card(s) to work in your LS9, you prefer to just purchase another entire console?

-Ray

No, we have this mixer at a location we rented out and was curious as a separate question. but we need to use this particular one.

Think my best bet is to use the 16x Omni Outs for each channel I want. I have a Motu Ultralite mk3, with 10 inputs so I'll have to unfortunately combine channels, mainly all drums, all backup vocals, and then do the rest of the instruments to make 10.

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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 07:19:54 PM »

No, we have this mixer at a location we rented out and was curious as a separate question. but we need to use this particular one.

Think my best bet is to use the 16x Omni Outs for each channel I want. I have a Motu Ultralite mk3, with 10 inputs so I'll have to unfortunately combine channels, mainly all drums, all backup vocals, and then do the rest of the instruments to make 10.

If you use all the Omni outputs you will have no PA.  I presume this does not matter.
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Re: Yamaha LS9 to DAW over Wifi / Network without Dante or I/O Card
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2017, 07:54:44 PM »

Hi,

I was wondering if it was possible to setup the Yamaha LS9 to my computer DAW over a Wifi / network connection through the standard Cat5 plug that is in the back of the mixer without having to purchase / use the I/O card slots.

I know this can be done for the iPad for the Stage Mix Software but I also simultaneously need to record multi-track on my computer for mastering/post-prod purposes after a live FOH type session. I dont want a combined track but a totally controllable mastering that I could do after recording the live session.

Let me know if this is possible!


The Yamaha MY-16-AUD Dante cards are abotu $550 each, last I checked. Each one will do 16 channels, so you'll need 2 to get 32 channels. Each card comes with a Dante Virtual Soundcard license. The only other thing you will need is a gigabit Ethernet switch, such as the Netgear ProSafe GS108T, which is about $50, and three sheilded Cate5e cables.


Still cheaper than buying another console, considering you already have the LS9.
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