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george welder

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Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« on: February 03, 2017, 08:39:27 PM »

First I'd like to thank all those that freely contribute on these forums. Thank you, it is greatly appreciated. :)

I apologize as much has already been covered pertaining to vocal mic quality and such. I've read through the sticky on vocal mic's, searches on "vocal mic proximity", the shoot outs, as well as the road tests. It's been quite enlightening.

I am doing a small duo acoustic show, two vocals and two acoustic guitars (run direct). I desire a vocal mic with a less pronounced proximity effect than an sm58. It's not that I dislike the sound of the sm58 or even the b58's, just looking for a good sounding mic that will "get quieter" as I pull off of it without the tone changing drastically.

I am open to condenser's as well as dynamics. We're using one wedge that is run at a very moderate level so gain before feedback and off axis rejection aren't mission critical. I am used to singing loud, while "eating" the mic, on loud stages with a full band. This is a more nuanced project that requires self mixing, hence the need for a mic with a more consistent response. (High harmony parts are thinning out as I back off to mix with other singer.)

Contenders but not limited to:
Shure SM86
Shure B87c
Shure KSM8
Telefunken M80
Heil PR35
Heil PR22


Thank you for comments and/or suggestions.

George


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Jay Barracato

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Re: Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2017, 09:00:10 PM »

Unusual choice but works well in this application: EV re320

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Re: Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2017, 09:51:45 PM »

Alternatively, you could figure out a way to stay further from the mic. The further away, the less the tone is affected by changes in distance.
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Re: Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 12:05:44 AM »

Shure KSM8, little-to-no proximity affect was a primary design influence.


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Re: Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 12:28:42 AM »

Add AKG C535 to that list.

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Re: Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2017, 02:34:18 AM »

I'll offer that I'm finding the KSM8 has turned out to be my favorite now, in that it's very well behaved in that regard.
It seems to strike a nice balance between the typical dynamics, vs the RE16 for example that feels to me singing goes too far, and has no low end lift' at all as you're working the mic.
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Re: Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2017, 06:40:15 AM »

Shure KSM8, little-to-no proximity affect was a primary design influence.


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I just used the KSM8 for 3 singers and I will agree that the proximity effect is much better behaved.
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Re: Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2017, 07:26:53 AM »

KSM8 all day every day. Sounds pretty much the same from 8" back as it does on the mic. They can even cup the hell out of it and still sounds the same. Crazy nice
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Re: Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2017, 07:40:33 AM »

They can even cup the hell out of it and still sounds the same.

Now that's impressive.

Will have to investigate further.

Thanks.

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Re: Vocal mic with less proximity effect
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2017, 11:25:53 AM »


Contenders but not limited to:
Shure SM86
Shure B87c
Shure KSM8
Telefunken M80
Heil PR35
Heil PR22

I have the last 3 on your list and the Heil PR22 exhibits the least proximity effect of those.  The PR35 with included outboard windscreen would be next.

Back in the late 70's, I recall using an EV mic with an elongated windscreen that physically kept voices further away from the diaphragm.  Not sure if anyone is making a similar format nowadays.  The Blue enCore 300 looks kinda like it, albeit in an uncircumcised version...

If you venture into hypercardioid territory, be careful using a single wedge right behind the mic.

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