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[Al Rettich]

Does anyone have rigging details for any smaller (3500 seat) amphitheaters? Even better if you have Fraze, PNC, Rose here in Southwest Ohio. Have a chance to help make a venue that the engineers and designers don't screw up.

[Mike Caldwell]

Does anyone have rigging details for any smaller (3500 seat) amphitheaters? Even better if you have Fraze, PNC, Rose here in Southwest Ohio. Have a chance to help make a venue that the engineers and designers don't screw up.

Just make a list of everything that needed done and wasn't and ever goofy thing that was done making the job harder at every placed you have worked?
Yea that could turn into a long list!!!!

[Helge A Bentsen]

First thing that springs to my mind:
- Load-in where everything can roll from the truck to the stage.
- Easy way to pull your own snake from stage to FOH.
- Points everywhere.

[Mike Caldwell]

For load in, both dock and street level.
Plenty of work light.
Easy power tie in, lugs, cams, CS 50amp Hubbell.
Handy restrooms.

[Rick Earl]

Does anyone have rigging details for any smaller (3500 seat) amphitheaters? Even better if you have Fraze, PNC, Rose here in Southwest Ohio. Have a chance to help make a venue that the engineers and designers don't screw up.

I was asked to come up with similar specs for an arena, I did, they laughed and said it was ridiculous and proceeded to build a place that is so limited, they couldn't book the acts they wanted because they didn't even have the capacity to fly their PA - -  -  BUT I still stand behind my methods, I looked at tours and shows going into similar venues, looked at similar venues, talked with touring riggers and local riggers and came up with some specifications.   Remembering that audience layout also determines PA coverage needs and you might need more capacity on sound points.     One of the sticking points with our designers was they couldn't understand why we needed more PA when there was an installed system, or why we might need to rig video if there was already a giant screen in the room for the scoreboard. 

[Dave Pluke]

I was asked to come up with similar specs for an arena, I did, they laughed and said it was ridiculous and proceeded to build a place that is so limited, they couldn't book the acts they wanted because they didn't even have the capacity to fly their PA

Not surprising.

@Al - figure out what you really need, then double it. When the "Value Engineering" fun begins, with any luck, they'll whittle it down to the real number.

Dave

[Rick Earl]

When the "Value Engineering" fun begins, with any luck, they'll whittle it down to the real number.

HaHaHaHa - When I said "you value engineered the functionality out of it" , they got mad and told me that they don't "value engineer".  About a week later I went to the engineer of record's website to get some information.  The home page said "(Insert company name here)- "Engineering value for our clients".  I guess it matters what order you put the words. 

[Dave Pluke]

The home page said "(Insert company name here)- "Engineering value for our clients".  I guess it matters what order you put the words.

Apparently!   

My former Structural Engineering firm designed an NBA Arena, a major Theater and at least one Amphitheater that I recall. Required Rigging Loads came from somewhere else - we just sized members accordingly.

Dave

[John Sulek]

Does anyone have rigging details for any smaller (3500 seat) amphitheaters? Even better if you have Fraze, PNC, Rose here in Southwest Ohio. Have a chance to help make a venue that the engineers and designers don't screw up.

Have you tried the venue technical contacts for Fraze or PNC? That info should be readily available in the production advance package.

[Al Rettich]

I don’t have access to either.

Have you tried the venue technical contacts for Fraze or PNC? That info should be readily available in the production advance package.

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