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[Clement Gerri]

Hello everybody, I'm Clement, a monitor guy and i need help with CL scene, please.
Is there a way to recall a send level of a specific channel in a specific mix when switching between scenes ? I use to recall only "Mute" in my different scene for a show (1 scene = 1 song), and and sometimes a few send levels in a specific mix. I tried with recall focus or recall safe but i can't find how to do this for a specific mix. It's ok for all send in all mixes . For example, i just want to recall in differents scenes : the send level of the snare top (channel 3) in the drummer'mixes ( mix 1/2), nothing more. Do you know a tricks please ? (sorry if you have already broached the subject, I couldn't find it).

Best regards

Clément

[Mac Kerr]

Hello everybody, I'm Clement, a monitor guy and i need help with CL scene, please.
Is there a way to recall a send level of a specific channel in a specific mix when switching between scenes ? I use to recall only "Mute" in my different scene for a show (1 scene = 1 song), and and sometimes a few send levels in a specific mix. I tried with recall focus or recall safe but i can't find how to do this for a specific mix. It's ok for all send in all mixes . For example, i just want to recall in differents scenes : the send level of the snare top (channel 3) in the drummer'mixes ( mix 1/2), nothing more. Do you know a tricks please ? (sorry if you have already broached the subject, I couldn't find it).

Best regards

Clément

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[Clement Gerri]

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It's done, thanks

[Russell Ault]

Hello everybody, I'm Clement, a monitor guy and i need help with CL scene, please.
Is there a way to recall a send level of a specific channel in a specific mix when switching between scenes ? I use to recall only "Mute" in my different scene for a show (1 scene = 1 song), and and sometimes a few send levels in a specific mix. I tried with recall focus or recall safe but i can't find how to do this for a specific mix. It's ok for all send in all mixes . For example, i just want to recall in differents scenes : the send level of the snare top (channel 3) in the drummer'mixes ( mix 1/2), nothing more. Do you know a tricks please ? (sorry if you have already broached the subject, I couldn't find it).

Not easily, but you might be able to get close. As you've discovered, there's no way to limit a scene's focus recall to a single mix node, but you can use a combination of (scene-based) focus recall and (global) recall safes to achieve a similar effect. In a nutshell, the console allows you focus recall each individual mix's levels using the "With Send" option in the Output Focus Parameters, but recalling input send levels from an output's focus is still overridden by the Input Safe Parameter's "Mix Send" option. So, for your example, you could recall safe the Mix Sends on every channel except channel 3, and then create a scene with a focus recall of everything turned off except "With Send" on mix 1/2, and this end result is that recalling this scene would only adjust the level of channel 3 in mix 1/2 (and nothing else). Of course, because recall safes are global, this may not end up actually covering your entire use-case (since you couldn't, for example, adjust only channel 4 into mix 3/4 in the next scene), but it might at least get the ball rolling.

-Russ

[boburtz]

Hello everybody, I'm Clement, a monitor guy and i need help with CL scene, please.
Is there a way to recall a send level of a specific channel in a specific mix when switching between scenes ? I use to recall only "Mute" in my different scene for a show (1 scene = 1 song), and and sometimes a few send levels in a specific mix. I tried with recall focus or recall safe but i can't find how to do this for a specific mix. It's ok for all send in all mixes . For example, i just want to recall in differents scenes : the send level of the snare top (channel 3) in the drummer'mixes ( mix 1/2), nothing more. Do you know a tricks please ? (sorry if you have already broached the subject, I couldn't find it).

Best regards

Clément

Forgive me for the oversimplification, but if it's just one move, wouldn't it be just as easy to simply change the mix send on the snare channel manually?
You could "Y" the snare top channel into another channel whose mix 1/2 would be post fade and have that channel sent to the drummers ears only. Then your recall focused fader move would manipulate the mix as well, just don't assign it to anything else.
You could record a midi-macro on a streamdeck with companion software. That would do what you wanted it to do, and it would not affect any other parameters in your scene.

[Andrew Broughton]

You could record a midi-macro on a streamdeck with companion software. That would do what you wanted it to do, and it would not affect any other parameters in your scene.

I was going to suggest that this would be a good job for Companion. If you need help getting it configured, let me know at my site.

[Russell Ault]

I was going to suggest that this would be a good job for Companion. If you need help getting it configured, let me know at my site.

...honestly, this is probably what I'd actually do, but I figured I'd start off "inside the box".

-Russ

[Andrew Broughton]

...honestly, this is probably what I'd actually do, but I figured I'd start off "inside the box".

-Russ

Fair. I've always been more of an "out of the box" guy myself.. :-)

[Clement Gerri]

Not easily, but you might be able to get close. As you've discovered, there's no way to limit a scene's focus recall to a single mix node, but you can use a combination of (scene-based) focus recall and (global) recall safes to achieve a similar effect. In a nutshell, the console allows you focus recall each individual mix's levels using the "With Send" option in the Output Focus Parameters, but recalling input send levels from an output's focus is still overridden by the Input Safe Parameter's "Mix Send" option. So, for your example, you could recall safe the Mix Sends on every channel except channel 3, and then create a scene with a focus recall of everything turned off except "With Send" on mix 1/2, and this end result is that recalling this scene would only adjust the level of channel 3 in mix 1/2 (and nothing else). Of course, because recall safes are global, this may not end up actually covering your entire use-case (since you couldn't, for example, adjust only channel 4 into mix 3/4 in the next scene), but it might at least get the ball rolling.

-Russ

Thanks very much Russ for your good advice. I actually do the opposite (focus for input, safe for output), but your option is more easier. That works for one channel in one mix, but it becomes really tricky from the moment you have to do this for several channel in different mixes (buses).  Or i misunderstood something ?

[Clement Gerri]

Forgive me for the oversimplification, but if it's just one move, wouldn't it be just as easy to simply change the mix send on the snare channel manually?
You could "Y" the snare top channel into another channel whose mix 1/2 would be post fade and have that channel sent to the drummers ears only. Then your recall focused fader move would manipulate the mix as well, just don't assign it to anything else.
You could record a midi-macro on a streamdeck with companion software. That would do what you wanted it to do, and it would not affect any other parameters in your scene.

Thanks good advice. Indeed that's what i do sometimes but thats works for few channels. For this project, the 72 channels of CL5 are full.

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