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Denny Jagard

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Rane G4 Quad Gate reviews, anyone?
« on: March 25, 2006, 11:41:32 pm »

The quad gate sounds like the best thing since sliced bread.  Anyone have any experience based reviews?

Does it really cure clicking and preserve the attack?

Is it smooth and colorless, such that I could use it for ducking keyboards and or guitar during lead vocal...even for a client with golden ears (who is playing the ducked guitar)?

I want one, but may go digital console soon so I don't want more outboard gear unless it's great.

thanks,
denny


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Re: Rane G4 Quad Gate reviews, anyone?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2006, 01:07:01 pm »

Well, if you buy a Digidesign Venue:
http://www.serato.com/products/rane_series/#Dynamics
You can even download a demo for free if you have a protools rig.
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Re: Rane G4 Quad Gate reviews, anyone?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2006, 09:51:48 pm »

I like mine a lot. A friend really likes his as well.  I don't think you can go wrong with one.  (The C4 either.)

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Re: Rane G4 Quad Gate reviews, anyone?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2006, 12:48:39 am »

Funny you mentioned that, since I want one.

And somewhere I read (probably an obsolete post) that the gate feature was not available as a plug in.

Thanks for that tip.
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Re: Rane G4 Quad Gate reviews, anyone?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2006, 04:04:32 pm »

Denny Jagard wrote on Sun, 26 March 2006 21:48

Funny you mentioned that, since I want one.

And somewhere I read (probably an obsolete post) that the gate feature was not available as a plug in.

Thanks for that tip.
denny


Actually, you get both gates and comps in the Serato Dynamics plugin.

Serato Rane Series Dynamics

Personally, I love my 2U hardware G4 and use it all the time on both musical sources and industrial speech-only gigs. The way you can control gate depth on it is great and the way the display shows input level relative to threshold setting is brilliant.

Yes, it really cures clicking. The 333 microsecond Look Ahead window that helps the G4 predict when to open means that your lowest frequency signals will have a certain amount of silent ramping-up envelope synthesized for them at the gate open event. 333 microseconds isn't long enough to be able to encompass your entire LF wavefront and preserve the low level parts of the attack. For instance, a 31 Hz sine wave takes about 2000 microseconds to ramp a third of the way up (assuming your threshold is set there.) That means your extreme LF sine wave signals will have a smooth but abbreviated attack envelope at the beginning--the original will NOT be preserved. Lucky for us a 5-string bass guitar pluck is a steeper, quicker envelope than a sine wave and is passed in satisfying fullness by the G4.

They'll take my G4 from my cold dead hands. Smile

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Re: Rane G4 Quad Gate reviews, anyone?
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2006, 07:26:25 pm »

Cool.  I ordered one today, as well as an SPL TD4... those drums are gonna sound nice.  Also I can't wait to try it to duck the keyboards a little when the lead vocal is present.
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Re: Rane G4 Quad Gate reviews, anyone?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2006, 08:05:59 pm »

Denny Jagard wrote on Tue, 28 March 2006 19:26

Cool.  I ordered one today, as well as an SPL TD4... those drums are gonna sound nice.  Also I can't wait to try it to duck the keyboards a little when the lead vocal is present.



A word of caution. As SPL recommends I would follow the TD4 with a decent compressor as the TD4 can generate some pretty intense output. I have found that after the Transient Designer I can use a comp with a basic expander/gate function and with the release control the drums ringing are not a problem.
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Re: Rane G4 Quad Gate reviews, anyone?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2006, 08:28:29 pm »

Thanks for the tip Johnny.  I am a little concerned that adding attack to the toms with the SPL will add too much attack to the cymbals, so I assume I need a gate first...  I suppose that is a big issue with the high hat if I use the SPL on the snare.

Your thoughts?

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Re: Rane G4 Quad Gate reviews, anyone?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2006, 09:27:35 pm »

Denny Jagard wrote on Tue, 28 March 2006 20:28

Thanks for the tip Johnny.  I am a little concerned that adding attack to the toms with the SPL will add too much attack to the cymbals, so I assume I need a gate first...  I suppose that is a big issue with the high hat if I use the SPL on the snare.

Your thoughts?

thanks,
denny


Try some Audix D2's/D4's on the toms..pickup pattern just about perfect for the task...I use them in the studio and am amazed at how much less ambience they pick up than other choices.


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