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Brian Wilkinson

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2 channel 31 band eq choice
« on: February 16, 2011, 05:01:59 PM »

I'm looking to get one for FOH. I'm looking at the DBX 2231 but can't get the Ashly GQX 3102 out of my head. What is the favored eq in this category in the under $600 budget.

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Re: 2 channel 31 band eq choice
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2011, 07:54:31 PM »

The dbx units are good, but there shouldn't be too much eq'ing going on at FOH anyway.  Either unit would probably suffice for FOH EQ.
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Re: 2 channel 31 band eq choice
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2011, 09:05:25 PM »

Brian,   IMHO the Ashley has a slightly lower noise floor and possibly built a little sturdier than the dBx unit.  Both are reasonable for the prices asked.  BUT!  I will ask you the same question someone asked me when I was looking to upgrade in that department,  Why spend $500 on an EQ when you can get a a really good GEQ, a PEQ, compressor, 3 way crossover, sub-harmonic synth, and much more,------all for the same $500.   I went with the dBx DriveRack PA and have been very pleased ever since.
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Re: 2 channel 31 band eq choice
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2011, 10:34:39 PM »

considering the budget range, i'd opt for a used BSS FCS-960!

as has been mentioned, for main eq, i'd be happy with a dual-parametric, as only minimal eq ought to be necessary.

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Re: 2 channel 31 band eq choice
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2011, 10:46:35 PM »

I have always been a big fan of the Ashly GEQ's.  In my old analog FOH rack i had both an ashly geq 3102 and an alesis PEQ-450 (2 channels of parametric eq, 5 bands per channel, OR linkable to have 10 bands on a single channel, including HPF and LPF's.  Fully parametric of course...frequent, Q, gain)

I still use the ashly graphic with my digital console, as the yamaha 01v96 has no graphic eq...

IMHO, the drive rack PA is junk...the 260 is the minimum way to go if you are going down the drive rack road...too many features left out of the PA...check it out:

http://www.driverack.com/drug/attachments/Driverack260vsDriverackPA1.pdf

   
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Re: 2 channel 31 band eq choice
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 01:09:44 AM »

Are there any decent ones that offer feedback detection?
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Re: 2 channel 31 band eq choice
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2011, 07:51:28 AM »

The Shure DFR11EQ and the DFR22 I think is the 2 channel model.  They offer like 12 auto detection notch filters.  It also has delay, graphic eq and lots of other features BUT they are only accessible through the software interface, so on the fly adjustments are not easy unless you have a laptop sitting there ready to make adjustments. 

Behringer makes a similar feedback destroyer.  I had one and i got rid of it, too many things i just did not like about it.  Mainly the user interface, although it too has a pc interface...

I've used the shure units with good success but i never liked the behringer...
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Re: 2 channel 31 band eq choice
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2011, 11:26:12 PM »

Your the best feedback detector. Get an RTA/ spectrograph program and run it from the solo bus of the console on a laptop if you want a feedback detector that works. That'll let you solo your auxes you may be running wedges off if you need. That and a pair of good headphones is the best way.
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Re: 2 channel 31 band eq choice
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 12:58:30 PM »

What does the rest of the system quality wise consist of? Any other areas getting upgraded? The dbx and Ashley are fine units for the price. If EQ is all you need, then they are the proper choices. The Driverack PA can sound OK (we use one, but it is now one of the weak links in our audio chain). The 260 would be the minimum choice if more than EQ is needed.

Why is there a need for feedback reduction? A properly setup system should not need this. If you have feedback issues now without a main system EQ, getting one "may" solve that problem if the offending frequencies are the ones that need to be reduced by EQ for a better sounding system.

Most of this depends alot on the system quality, room acoustics, speaker placement etc....

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Re: 2 channel 31 band eq choice
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2011, 02:55:23 PM »

Bob W. makes a good point: what's the rest of the rig like?

That said, you can find KT DN-360 or BSS FCS960 used, for around $500.  John Chiara has a KT DN-3600 (digitally controlled analog) in the Marketplace for the same price.

I've used a bunch of dbx 12/22 series EQ (they're the same inside except for the noise reduction and "limiter").  Most of them have held up very well.  I like the Ashly graphics, too, along with Symmetrix.

If I were carrying analog EQ with *me* today, I'd take my KT DN-410 2 ch. parametric.  If I need more than that, I've got something very, very wrong in my setup or deployment.

Have fun, good luck.

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