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TomRuff

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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2023, 03:09:03 PM »

Looks like Rode has found an analog audio use for this one.

Looking forward to hearing this mic.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NTSF1--rode-soundfield-nt-sf1-ambisonic-microphone
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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2023, 08:15:43 PM »

A very niche mic with a niche connector.

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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2023, 10:10:40 AM »

A very niche mic with a niche connector.

It's interesting that they chose that connector.  I can't see any reason why they would need the 16ga pins.  They could have just used a shielded catx cable and then it would have worked with any of the myriad of catx snake breakout boxes or other gear in that ecosystem.
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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2023, 12:26:08 PM »

It's interesting that they chose that connector.  I can't see any reason why they would need the 16ga pins.  They could have just used a shielded catx cable and then it would have worked with any of the myriad of catx snake breakout boxes or other gear in that ecosystem.

I was thinking that too.

I guess this way they get to sell parts when you lose that breakout and canít find it anywhere else.
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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2023, 03:33:28 PM »

It's interesting that they chose that connector.  I can't see any reason why they would need the 16ga pins.  They could have just used a shielded catx cable and then it would have worked with any of the myriad of catx snake breakout boxes or other gear in that ecosystem.

Seems like the perfect solution, Cat X cable into some CAT Tails. How long do you figure it would take before people complain about how their cool new "network" mic isn't passing signal?  ::)
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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2023, 03:59:59 PM »

As much as I dislike Ethercon connectors for their 'expendable' level of serviceability I've accepted them because I was under the impression that we had to live with the format because the form factor was dictated by maintaining the sacred conductor twist and proximity at all costs. This seems to break that by a couple of millimeters or so. Is this just a superstition on my part?

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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2023, 04:59:54 PM »

It's interesting that they chose that connector.  I can't see any reason why they would need the 16ga pins.  They could have just used a shielded catx cable and then it would have worked with any of the myriad of catx snake breakout boxes or other gear in that ecosystem.

I will avoid using any of the CAT RJ45 connector things for analog audio.

They made a good call not using the CAT R45 for the mic connector as there is no real standard for the pin outs on those things.

The Neutrik connector just has the number of needed pins to do what they need regardless of pin gauge and it's a robust connector.

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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2023, 05:43:59 PM »

It's interesting that they chose that connector.  I can't see any reason why they would need the 16ga pins. {...}

I'm sure they didn't need the gauge, just the pins (the largest pin-count in a standard XLR connector I know of is 7, and this microphone would need at least 9).

{...} They could have just used a shielded catx cable and then it would have worked with any of the myriad of catx snake breakout boxes or other gear in that ecosystem.

I see two issues with this approach: first, to my knowledge, there is no extant EtherCON-compatible jack that could easily be made to fit into the end of the microphone (i.e. there's no free-hanging version of the EtherCON jack, only the plug, and D-size jack wedged into the end of the microphone would be bulky and awkward); second, as mentioned by Mike, the "myriad of catx snake breakout boxes" also have a myriad of different, incompatible pin-outs, negating much of the advantage.

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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2024, 04:55:15 PM »

Rode uses this connector on its SF1 Soundfield microphone for its 4 capsules and power Supply with a special cable from Mogami I think
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Re: Wild new Neutrik connector....
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2024, 10:43:48 AM »

I actually have a decent inventory of Cat cables using these connectors.  I use them as 4ch audio snake.  The idea was to keep techs from accidentally criss crossing cat cables with analog audio or AES with those carrying actual network data.  They have proven to be very robust and not needing a gender changer to extend a cable is also very nice.  I definitely would question them for data use with the lack of twists, but for audio/AES/DMX, they are pretty handy.  I believe TMB has a cable that actually uses all the contacts with appropriate gauge on the power pins.
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