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Andrew Watts

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Backing Track System
« on: November 28, 2021, 01:00:51 AM »

I am working with a band to get a new backing track system up that needs to be able to provide multi output audio, and also midi out for patch changes / lighting etc. Is there anyone in this forum with experience who would be happy to have a chat about it.
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Re: Backing Track System
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2021, 10:38:32 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2021, 10:45:58 AM »

Digital Performer can do this as well.
We use an iConnectivity Playaudio12 to interface with the audio system and to send midi to the keyboard rig. For this next run it is also sending timecode to the video server.
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2021, 10:51:35 AM »

How has your experience been with the PlayAudio12? I'm considering switching from a Radial SW8 and RME interface to a single PlayAudio12, but concerned about the quality.
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Re: Backing Track System
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2021, 06:12:41 PM »

I don't have much experience with it but the cymatic utrack24 and lp-16 can both play back a midi file along with the tracks if you want a hardware solution.  Looks like you can link up to four of the utracks so you could play back up to four MIDI files to various devices if you couldn't just use one file with different channels.
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Re: Backing Track System
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2021, 11:06:36 AM »

I am working with a band to get a new backing track system up that needs to be able to provide multi output audio, and also midi out for patch changes / lighting etc. Is there anyone in this forum with experience who would be happy to have a chat about it.

I used Logic for years to control all those things including an elaborate lighting show. I even changed patches on the guitar players rig.

I would think that any pro DAW would do the job. Logic was my choice because I knew it well. I'd suggest that you use something you're familiar with as life is too short to learn another DAW. Those things are complicated.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2021, 11:28:06 AM »

What I found useful about LiveTraker (it was a few years ago) was that it's super-easy to move your set list around (drag/drop), it had written cues (or lyrics) that sync to parts of a track, very simple to adjust output levels and routing, and even a drummer can work it! ;-)
No extra crap like processing or plug-ins and the additional complexity of a DAW. Just what you need to play tracks and do it easily. Hadn't really seen anything that was 100% designed for simplicity to use live.
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Re: Backing Track System
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2021, 10:05:39 PM »

I am working with a band to get a new backing track system up that needs to be able to provide multi output audio, and also midi out for patch changes / lighting etc. Is there anyone in this forum with experience who would be happy to have a chat about it.
Hi Andrew,

I created backing tracks in ProTools, and have all the separate audio files used for tracking playing through Ableton Live 10. I also have continuous control data running through Max4Live CC to Program Change to send MIDI PC data to a LanBox LCM light controller for cues.

Ableton is running on a MacMini and connects to a Behringer X32-Rack via USB. 8 actual analog XLR inputs(4 Shure ULX-D, 2 for stereo keys(me), and 2 more for my daughter’s keys or 2 single inputs for guest players.) The remaining 24 channels are for tracks. Break music from the MacMini gets to the mixer via Aux In Remap(uses Aux1 & Aux2.) Talkback (we’re on IEMs) is through the talkback input on the X32-Rack.

Happy to chat about it!

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Re: Backing Track System
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2021, 11:04:56 AM »

Hi Andrew,

I also have continuous control data running through Max4Live CC to Program Change to send MIDI PC data to a LanBox LCM light controller for cues.


I used a Lanbox for at least 5 years. I had pros come in to program it every year and they hated it. Powerful box but the user interface was clunky and updates were few or non-existent. Eventually got a GrandMa on PC and life became much easier for the programmers and for me to trigger lighting cues.
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Re: Backing Track System
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2021, 03:15:00 PM »

I used a Lanbox for at least 5 years. I had pros come in to program it every year and they hated it. Powerful box but the user interface was clunky and updates were few or non-existent. Eventually got a GrandMa on PC and life became much easier for the programmers and for me to trigger lighting cues.
Can’t argue about the interface, for sure! :-) Having to program it through the serial interface was a pain!

Agreed as well about updates… When I first got it, the form-factor was just what was needed. Fokko van Duin was super helpful to me when I was first creating profiles, but since his passing some years ago things changed.

Ours was a particular case where we only needed 10 scenes, triggered from a modified FCB1010, so once it was set up, I never had to touch it again.

Still using the same scenes, so for a static user like me it works.

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