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Tim McCulloch

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The Mac world needs a new OS!
« on: June 07, 2021, 03:20:58 PM »

Yeah, right.  As some developers are still struggling with Big Sur...

Apple remains on the California coast and head to MacOS 15 12, "Monterey."
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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2021, 03:44:28 PM »

It's become a computer for the masses. Far cry from their 1984 commercial. But did they have to forget about the professionals that use Macs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q7iX0QWaTg
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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2021, 04:05:59 PM »

It's become a computer for the masses. Far cry from their 1984 commercial. {...}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q7iX0QWaTg

I mean, to be fair, I always thought the point of that ad was that Apple is for the masses (i.e. the people) as opposed to the corporate overloads.

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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2021, 04:22:32 PM »

I firmly believe the arbitrary annual new OS releases are shooting Apple users in the foot. It seems to take Dante, Waves, and others in our industry nearly a year to catch-up with major releases from Apple. And while I can't really prove it, I feel like the quality of the Apple ownership experience has declined over the years.

I've been an Apple fanatic since getting my first //c back in 1985/6; I started using the ][+ around 1981/82. I saved my lawn mowing money to buy Apple stock (my dad later sold it without my knowledge.... granted it was like 10 shares but...).

But over the years, things went from "it just works" and "it's intuitive" to resembling more of the Windows world. My upgrade to Catalina was a complete nightmare that included me having to completely blow-away all of the preferences/plists/etc related to the wireless adapter and rebuilding them. Reminded me an awful lot of trying to get printer drivers to work properly back with Windows 98/ME.

I guess I'm just getting too old and I probably sound like the old man who starts stories with "back in my day!" But I sure do wish Apple would focus less on releasing new stuff every year.

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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2021, 04:42:49 PM »

I guess I'm just getting too old and I probably sound like the old man who starts stories with "back in my day!" But I sure do wish Apple would focus less on releasing new stuff every year.

It's basically retailing.  If you don't change your store layout every few months and update the graphics, everybody thinks you're going out of business.
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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2021, 05:35:25 PM »

My Windows laptop that I use for 95% of my work, including recording with Protools is just as, if not more stable than my MacBook Pro. I even let Windows download and install all of it's normal updates (albeit on my schedule) and have not had any issues in the almost 5 years that I have had this laptop. My MacBook Pro is still running Catalina until I'm certain that all of the audio software that I run on it is fully working without issues. I just wish I could turn off the constant auto nagging to update the OS that Apple pushes on your every time you boot up the machine.

If QLab and Dolby Atmos Production Suite ran on Windows, I would have no use for Mac OS at all.
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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2021, 05:57:54 PM »

I firmly believe the arbitrary annual new OS releases are shooting Apple users in the foot. It seems to take Dante, Waves, and others in our industry nearly a year to catch-up with major releases from Apple. And while I can't really prove it, I feel like the quality of the Apple ownership experience has declined over the years.

Certainly the frequency of product releases has increased a lot since Jobs died. I feel like Jobs had a firm grip on how much product they could actively support. After his death Apple started doing "flavors" of every product and the OS releases got faster and messier.
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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2021, 06:06:29 PM »

Yeah, right.  As some developers are still struggling with Big Sur...

Apple remains on the California coast and head to MacOS 15, "Monterey."

It's MacOS 12, not MacOS 15.

But yeah, Apple releasing operating systems each year and not supporting older operating systems with new hardware certainly creates struggles for business customers.  If you need to add new machines, it's tough to do if you are forced to upgrade software that you might not be able to.

You'd think that computers would have become mature enough that they don't need to completely abandon the old ones every few years, but that's not how you become the most valuable company on the planet.  People simply have no choice but to do what they say.

In this day and age, you'd expect that hardware purchased should have at least a 10 year usable life out of it, but that's simply not the case.  2-3 years on an iOS device, and 5 years out of a Mac is about all they want you to have, even though 10 year old hardware is physically just fine and should be capable of doing plenty.
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Tim McCulloch

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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2021, 10:57:39 PM »

It's MacOS 12, not MacOS 15.


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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2021, 12:41:44 PM »


In this day and age, you'd expect that hardware purchased should have at least a 10 year usable life out of it, but that's simply not the case.  2-3 years on an iOS device, and 5 years out of a Mac is about all they want you to have, even though 10 year old hardware is physically just fine and should be capable of doing plenty.


This is where I get frustrated.  For a very high percentage of what "we do" even streaming multiple 4K video streams and multitrack recording, the hardware has been capable for years-and truthfully the software has been as well.  At work I use PC's, at church we are a Mac shop.  Most of what I do in the media booth is straightforward stuff-playing playlists, maybe recording a service, ProPresenter media, accessing email, etc.  My headaches?  Apple decides JPEGs are wasteful (now that we have more memory than we know what to do with) and introduce HEICs.  Yeah, I can deal with them, but PP doesn't like them and sometimes the conversion doesn't work as it should.  It's 2021, why should getting a picture from a phone to the screen require jumping through hoops?

The "engineer" in me likes to know how things work-but sometimes I just want it to work without having to understand how!
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Re: The Mac world needs a new OS!
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