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Title: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 19, 2007, 07:29:08 pm
Since the first thread got closed for being too long, here's Part II. I haven't had a working camera in about 6 months, and my racks still have a couple empty spaces before they're ready to get their 'coming out' pics taken, so you're not going to get any actual pics out of me,  Laughing but here's the place where people can start the posting.

BTW if you're looking for Part I, you can find it here: http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/27901/9721/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Vic Cowles on December 19, 2007, 08:06:11 pm
SHUT UP! I got closed because it got too STUPID!
Title: No...
Post by: Mac Kerr on December 19, 2007, 08:22:08 pm
Vic Cowles wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 20:06

SHUT UP! I got closed because it got too STUPID!
No, it got closed because it was too long. In my post at the end of the previous thread I not only explained why it got closed, but suggested that anyone who thought it was still an interesting topic should start a new thread. Y'all need to lighten up. This is just an online forum, it's not your life.

Mac
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: SteveKirby on December 19, 2007, 09:06:06 pm
Go to TheGearPage and look up New Eminence Speaker Content.  148 pages of discussion on the new Patriot/Redcoat line of EMI guitar speakers.

Now, that's a long thread.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Dick Rees on December 19, 2007, 09:10:51 pm
Vic Cowles wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 19:06

SHUT UP! I got closed because it got too STUPID!


I think you may be referring to the other thread that got locked down.....the one about favorite amps for subs which waded into murky posting of opinions on questionable power.  I trust Macs explanation and judgement.  I, too , was enjoying the pretty pictures and picking up lots of information from just seeing how everyone was doing what with which.

So I suggest you take your own advice. Very Happy  

Oh...and as far as "I" got closed, my sympathies.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 19, 2007, 09:14:11 pm
Dick Rees wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 02:10

I, too , was enjoying the pretty pictures and picking up lots of information from just seeing how everyone was doing what with which.


Same here. Every once in a while, I'll see a new trick, cool variation, or neat piece of hardware. I certainly wish I'd seen more threads like this before I started building my racks.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mike McNany on December 19, 2007, 09:39:43 pm
I won't bother with a pic, but I just got my new PLX1804 in after sending off my PLX1602 monitor amp for repairs, and rearranged the amps for a little bit more power.

BUT the big thing was I used the PLX1804's channel one speakon out for both top outputs (U15s) in stereo using 4 wire cable to my I/O panel's seperate monitor speakon outputs. Saved one Speakon plug by doing so. The PLX 1104 & 1804 only have speakon outs but the channel one also has channel two on the speakon +2, -2 terminals.

When I get the 1602 back I'll have a chance to try bi-amping the U15s. Although if we like it, that'll open a new can of worms since I use four wire to feed top & sub to each side bar stack.

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Ed Peterson on December 19, 2007, 10:39:02 pm
When I get the 1602 back I'll have a chance to try bi-amping the U15s. Although if we like it, that'll open a new can of worms since I use four wire to feed top & sub to each side bar stack.

Mike McNany[/quote]


Six or eight wire?  I use eight wire and double the copper to the subs
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Vic Cowles on December 19, 2007, 10:43:22 pm
Yer right,   I was referring to the wrong thread.  Glad that one got shut down.  The lets see your amp rack's thread is still stupid.  Except for the the obvious breast references.  My wife "has a balcony you can do Shakespeare from" . ( Firesign Theatre)

Mac, your right it's just a forum.  Think I'll leave for awhile. If it wasn't for folks attackin personal opinions, There'd be  less than half the posts.  I have learned alot from people who know alot more than me here. Also, plannin on a new signature line.  It'll  have something to do with the arrogance of our industry.

Vic
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Vic Cowles on December 19, 2007, 10:50:47 pm
The things I've learned here are invaluable.  Oh and no, I'm not going to Harmony Central to follow the sage and old wise one... Aged Horse.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jim Duyck on December 19, 2007, 11:34:22 pm
SteveKirby wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 20:06

Go to TheGearPage and look up New Eminence Speaker Content.  148 pages of discussion on the new Patriot/Redcoat line of EMI guitar speakers.

Now, that's a long thread.


nawwww....try the "your pedalboard - photo" thread - it's currently at 591 pages... Shocked   so what if i contributed to it! Rolling Eyes
Title: Re: No...
Post by: Sean Hayes on December 19, 2007, 11:39:32 pm
Vic Cowles wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 20:06

Y'all need to lighten up. This is just an online forum, it's not your life.



Actually Laughing

But honestly, I spend more time on this forum than any other website.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Shaun Crawford on December 20, 2007, 07:29:53 am
w00t! i get to pop the picture cherry in this thread!

ok, this 1 of my amp racks (currently), though the whole rack will get rebuilt. The other rack, I've never had a chance to take a picture of.

index.php/fa/13109/0/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jamie Taylor on December 20, 2007, 09:39:53 am
not mine, a company I work for, but still, someone might find them interesting.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g72/jamie_au/100_0834.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g72/jamie_au/100_0833.jpg

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Scott Smith on December 20, 2007, 10:04:08 am
Vic Cowles wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 22:43

...Mac, your right it's just a forum... If it wasn't for folks attackin personal opinions, There'd be  less than half the posts.  I have learned alot from people who know alot more than me here. Also, plannin on a new signature line.  It'll  have something to do with the arrogance of our industry.

Vic

+1
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mike McNany on December 20, 2007, 10:05:22 am
Ed Peterson wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 22:39

When I get the 1602 back I'll have a chance to try bi-amping the U15s. Although if we like it, that'll open a new can of worms since I use four wire to feed top & sub to each side bar stack.

Mike McNany



Six or eight wire?  I use eight wire and double the copper to the subs [/quote]

THAT is exactly the can of worms I was referring to. NEW copper and it's interfacing. Buying all new cabling for FOH, making a new I/O panel to hold NL8s, getting NL8s, ect. NL4s fit in a small space on the rack and I already have enough 4 wire cable to do ANY job/setup we could possibly consider with our system.

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mike McNany on December 20, 2007, 10:10:50 am
What's with the spacing between the power amps? That's for OLD amps only. All the QSC (nice choice) blow & suck the same direction so they work great close stacked. I count 4RU wasted right now (understand you are not finished with the rack), space enough for a couple more amps or even rack drawers. And with what you have and considering more for that rack, put some wheels on that if you value your nads  Shocked

Best price & value on rack drawers is still EWI at www.audiopile.net

They are also great for castors as is www.dblittle.com (if I have the addy right). Or use DBLittle's ebay store.

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Theo White on December 20, 2007, 11:41:34 am
SteveKirby wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 20:06

Go to TheGearPage and look up New Eminence Speaker Content.  148 pages of discussion on the new Patriot/Redcoat line of EMI guitar speakers.

Now, that's a long thread.


DJForums.com has a thread 174 pages long and three years old about the Bill Fitz Designs horn loaded subwoofers....
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: SteveKirby on December 20, 2007, 12:31:56 pm
Jim Duyck wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 22:34

SteveKirby wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 20:06

Go to TheGearPage and look up New Eminence Speaker Content.  148 pages of discussion on the new Patriot/Redcoat line of EMI guitar speakers.

Now, that's a long thread.


nawwww....try the "your pedalboard - photo" thread - it's currently at 591 pages... Shocked   so what if i contributed to it! Rolling Eyes

Nah, I stay away from the pedal forums.  Talk about flavor of the month.  Perfectly happy with my Zendrive if I've stuck with a backline Twin.

Jamie, what kind of power connectors are on those rack packs?  That looks like the things most of the hotels use around here in the wall.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on December 20, 2007, 12:59:18 pm
Jamie Taylor wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 09:39

not mine, a company I work for, but still, someone might find them interesting.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g72/jamie_au/100_0834.jpg





QSC PL series knockoffs?

Looks like a PL4.0 and 2 PL2.0HV's...



Evan
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Andrew Spotts on December 20, 2007, 01:07:43 pm
Clair Bros. customized PL stuff...

Andrew
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tim McCulloch on December 20, 2007, 01:20:47 pm
Customized for Clair Bros.  Genuine QSC.

Tim MC
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Adam Robinson on December 20, 2007, 01:48:58 pm
Are the Clair braded QSC amps the current model they're using?  
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: bo putnam on December 20, 2007, 04:01:48 pm
Mike McNany wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 07:10

What's with the spacing between the power amps? That's for OLD amps only. All the QSC (nice choice) blow & suck the same direction so they work great close stacked. I count 4RU wasted right now (understand you are not finished with the rack), space enough for a couple more amps or even rack drawers. And with what you have and considering more for that rack, put some wheels on that if you value your nads  Shocked


All that, and a power distro, too, Shaun!   Cool
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Shaun Crawford on December 20, 2007, 05:48:31 pm

*cough* that wasn't my doing. hehe

i bought that rack recently and pulled it out of that bar. my rack i have is all on top of each other. this will be fixed when i get a new rack with casters. the rack alone is a heavy beast.

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Shaun Crawford on December 20, 2007, 05:50:15 pm

yup... i'm still debating between ampshop and uhh.. yeah... that other company for a power distro. i can't make up my mind.. lol.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: The Guy on December 20, 2007, 05:52:45 pm
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 12:59


QSC PL series knockoffs?

Looks like a PL4.0 and 2 PL2.0HV's...



Evan



I don't think Clair is in the business of making Knockoff amps. Cool  Their OEM stuff by QSC.  I guess they have to go somewhere now that Carver isn't in the biz anymore!

-JB

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Adam Robinson on December 20, 2007, 06:26:37 pm
Jim Bowersox wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 16:52

Evan Kirkendall wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 12:59


QSC PL series knockoffs?

Looks like a PL4.0 and 2 PL2.0HV's...



Evan



I don't think Clair is in the business of making Knockoff amps. Cool  Their OEM stuff by QSC.  I guess they have to go somewhere now that Carver isn't in the biz anymore!

-JB




Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!  (The Carver sound revisits).

Both Clair and Meyer also had their names on Crest amps, I believe.  Are they using these amps anymore?  Last Clair tour I was on with an i4 rig, they were running Crest (non-Clair badged) amps (with a clamshell rack full of Carvers for the subs) and a new install of Clair i212s uses non-clair badged QSC PL3s.  


Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tom Manchester on December 20, 2007, 11:09:48 pm
As I understand it at the present Clair is using a combination of QSC PL 9.0's or Crest pro series on subs and Macrotechs on the high boxes (oh nooooesss, 2 airflows in the racks! Razz ). And then of course they use the old Carver amps they have a million of on just about anything. The Carvers seem to be out with the smaller 1-0ff type gigs with the older R and S boxes.

The Clair branded smaller QSC stuff is generally what they sell with their retail'ed systems such as 12AM packages, or installs done by Clair's install department. I have not seen them use it much on their tours.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tom Manchester on December 20, 2007, 11:17:06 pm
Here Adam, this one is just for you. I pulled the normal Crown XS500 out of Amp Rack #4 and switched it for a Clair modified Carver PM2.0 Monoblock to run a Clair ML-18 for a drum fill in my monitor rig this weekend. Gotta keep it strictly Clair Pimp style Cool Laughing

index.php/fa/13126/0/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jamie Taylor on December 20, 2007, 11:53:29 pm
SteveKirby wrote on Fri, 21 December 2007 03:31

Jamie, what kind of power connectors are on those rack packs?  That looks like the things most of the hotels use around here in the wall.


They're CEE connectors.  very common in Europe.  the ones on those amps are single phase 32 amp.  They're a much better alternative to the Australian standard we have.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Adam Robinson on December 21, 2007, 12:52:40 am
I've seen two new Clair installs recently not using Clair-branded amps, so I don't know where they're using them, but I'll take your word at it.  They have so many different amps, who knows anymore.  I'll email a few Clair friends and just ask.


Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: SteveKirby on December 21, 2007, 12:40:46 pm
Tom Manchester wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 22:17

Here Adam, this one is just for you. I pulled the normal Crown XS500 out of Amp Rack #4 and switched it for a Clair modified Carver PM2.0 Monoblock to run a Clair ML-18 for a drum fill in my monitor rig this weekend. Gotta keep it strictly Clair Pimp style Cool Laughing

index.php/fa/13126/0/

Cool.  Just curious, how do you hook the crossover to the monoblock?  Wink
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brad Ferguson on December 21, 2007, 05:10:54 pm
I just built 14 of these racks:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/Chucks604/IMG_0138.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/Chucks604/IMG_0139.jpg

and 6 of these:

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/Chucks604/IMG_0140.jpg

edit:  the smaller rack with the 4 amps is not quite complete.  I'm going to change out the 6u vented panel for a fan-based one, with a hi-lo-off fan switch.  We're in Canada winter so we're not too worried about it, but by summer time, they'll be blowing air big time!  Very Happy

The big racks with the 2 A/C inputs on the front is entirely sealed at the back, and have fans on the slam-latch lid.  To turn the fans hi-lo-off you open the slam latch and there's a switch inside.

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Remy G. Santerre on December 21, 2007, 11:51:26 pm
If there was an Amp Rack Porn magazine, I believe these racks would end up being the centerfold  Twisted Evil


The clean design & versatility has me drooling.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Chris Blust on December 22, 2007, 12:33:32 am
Brad Ferguson wrote on Fri, 21 December 2007 22:10


http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/Chucks604/IMG_0139.jpg



What type of multi pin connector is that in the middle of the panel for chan 1-8?

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brad Ferguson on December 22, 2007, 12:35:40 am
Standard 19-pin socapex.  We reverse the gender on the output of the amp rack so it's virtually impossible to plug a loudspeaker into a lighting dimmer.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Geoffrey Brown on December 22, 2007, 01:04:09 am
Brad:

What part of Canada are you in? Always nice to see a local face.

Are you concerned about the possibility of human (or metal) contact with the exposed socapex pins? - Those labs should get pretty high output voltages...

Geoff
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 22, 2007, 01:29:38 am
Brad Ferguson wrote on Sat, 22 December 2007 05:35

Standard 19-pin socapex.  We reverse the gender on the output of the amp rack so it's virtually impossible to plug a loudspeaker into a lighting dimmer.


Might want to put a cover on that outlet. It would be a shocking experience making contact with those exposed pins.  Shocked
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brad Ferguson on December 22, 2007, 02:12:36 am
I'm in Toronto.  
Ran the Band World audio shop for 3 years, now I'm inventory manager at Metalworks.


As far as the male soca goes, you both have a very valid point (i came into the shop one day and one of my staff hooked up a crown vz5002 to some full range music and he held onto the screw terminals of the output of the amp, and told me that he could "Feel the music"... Shocked )

It hasn't been an issue yet, but I was indeed planning on chaining on a cap to the panel.  I know maybe half of everyone will actually replace the cap after use, but at least that safety will be there.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 22, 2007, 02:25:34 am
Brad Ferguson wrote on Sat, 22 December 2007 07:12

It hasn't been an issue yet, but I was indeed planning on chaining on a cap to the panel.  I know maybe half of everyone will actually replace the cap after use, but at least that safety will be there.


I haven't found one yet, but I'll bet someone makes a NEMA 3R cover for Socapex. The advantage of a hinged cover is that it's always closed unless it's in use. PM me if you find one  Smile
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tom Manchester on December 22, 2007, 04:38:46 am
SteveKirby wrote on Fri, 21 December 2007 12:40

Tom Manchester wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 22:17

Here Adam, this one is just for you. I pulled the normal Crown XS500 out of Amp Rack #4 and switched it for a Clair modified Carver PM2.0 Monoblock to run a Clair ML-18 for a drum fill in my monitor rig this weekend. Gotta keep it strictly Clair Pimp style Cool Laughing

index.php/fa/13126/0/

Cool.  Just curious, how do you hook the crossover to the monoblock?  Wink


With a Y cable of course  Razz

Actually an XS1200 will be powering the top box, there is an XLR cable that comes out of the crossover and plugs into another rack. More details to follow after tomorrow night's event.

And Brad if you ever get tired of those Lab Grupens and want to sell them for like, $50 shipped I'll take 'em  Very Happy
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brad Ferguson on December 22, 2007, 10:50:18 am
 Tom, I'll let you know.. Smile



http://metalworksproductiongroup.com/products/images/IMG_0023.jpg

That's what the Lab Gruppen Racks replaced.  (and they're for sale!!)
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Stuart Hogg on December 22, 2007, 01:47:27 pm
Pascal Pincosy wrote on Sat, 22 December 2007 07:25

I haven't found one yet, but I'll bet someone makes a NEMA 3R cover for Socapex. The advantage of a hinged cover is that it's always closed unless it's in use. PM me if you find one  Smile


That'll sort out the amp rack itself, but then you've got to think about every cable that you use, too. It's easy to see a scenario where somebody, say, repatches a breakout at the stacks whilst the amps are running...
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Derek Shawver on December 23, 2007, 10:25:26 pm
Brad Ferguson wrote on Sat, 22 December 2007 09:50

 Tom, I'll let you know.. Smile



http://metalworksproductiongroup.com/products/images/IMG_0023.jpg

That's what the Lab Gruppen Racks replaced.  (and they're for sale!!)

for how much?
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Aaron Kovacik on December 24, 2007, 04:32:00 pm
D&B anyone?

http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v108/30/116/6 3604245/n63604245_30422063_6699.jpg

From my summer job with SAVI.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Vinny D'Agostino on December 25, 2007, 12:15:26 pm
Not many pictures in this topic  Confused

So here is what I have for my FOH rack, it's not much compaired to what most of you use but it's mine and it's paid for Very Happy

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/139vinny/Gear/rack002.jpg?t=1198602587

A trusty ole Ashly XR1001 crossover, a PLX3402 powering my RCF ART325i, and my new RMX4050HD powering a pair of Yorkville LS608's.
It does the job nicely  Smile
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jacco Labots on December 26, 2007, 09:15:09 am
I recently upgraded my EAW JF260e set from Carver PT2400/PM1.5 to a LAB Gruppen combi Fp6000Q and a Fp2200
index.php/fa/13199/0/

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jacco Labots on December 26, 2007, 09:16:29 am
Close up from the front
index.php/fa/13200/0/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jacco Labots on December 26, 2007, 09:18:21 am
Backside of the rack:
index.php/fa/13201/0/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jacco Labots on December 26, 2007, 09:19:19 am
Connector panel:
index.php/fa/13202/0/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Adam Whetham on December 26, 2007, 09:31:27 am
Just a question. Are powercon's suppose to be in an enclosed box since its power? Or is it fine to throw them in the panel like this, as thats what I've been doing and heat shrinking around the spades.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jacco Labots on December 26, 2007, 01:48:50 pm
I really would not know.....
I to use shrinking on the chassis backs.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Anton Stjernbrant on December 27, 2007, 12:01:19 pm
This is my christmas project.
A DPA448 and three Labgruppen amps.
It will be configured to drive various L-acoustics products.

Anton

http://star-audio.se/amprack_07.jpg
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Dan O. Anderson on December 27, 2007, 03:57:01 pm
Here's mine. Yes, it's got some Behringer stuff, but it's cheap and it does the job for now.

index.php/fa/13243/0/

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Kenny Rippel on December 28, 2007, 02:24:25 am
I might as well post up some pics.
3 way mains & 2 mix monitor rack.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/Picture056.jpg
4 way mains rack.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/kenny_lee/0104071249.jpg
No pics of the backs...It's a rats nest back there  Laughing
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Patrick Tracy on December 29, 2007, 12:57:01 am
I thought it would be amusing for you all to see what I had to work with a few years ago. Enjoy...
index.php/fa/13280/0/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Dave Barker on December 29, 2007, 12:27:28 pm
Well this is what I use.  Bottom rack is FOH driving EV QRx153's and Danley subs.  The upper rack is my monitor rack for 8 mixes.

index.php/fa/13289/0/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Dave Barker on December 29, 2007, 12:31:49 pm
And here is the back of the racks.  For FOH I just run a 8 cond to each side.  I was going to put a patch panel on the monitor rack but then just thought I can patch into the amps just as easy.  Beauty of the monitor rack is that I can run all 4 amps on one circuit.  I will sometimes also take it out on smaller gigs and connect up with a separate DSP and run a small rig with monitors off of it.

index.php/fa/13290/0/

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jørgen Johansen on May 14, 2008, 07:37:31 am
Sorry.. Message removed...
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jørgen Johansen on May 14, 2008, 09:08:56 am
This is removed too.... Sorry...
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 14, 2008, 10:00:43 am
Dave Barker wrote on Sat, 29 December 2007 12:31

And here is the back of the racks.  For FOH I just run a 8 cond to each side.  I was going to put a patch panel on the monitor rack but then just thought I can patch into the amps just as easy.  Beauty of the monitor rack is that I can run all 4 amps on one circuit.  I will sometimes also take it out on smaller gigs and connect up with a separate DSP and run a small rig with monitors off of it.

index.php/fa/13290/0/




I've always wondered why more people didnt mount their rack-packs in the back of the rack.  When I get my amp rack done the way I want it, thats where I'm putting mine.  I dont want any cords to have to plug in the front.  
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Duncan McLennan on May 14, 2008, 10:14:54 am
Donnie Evans wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 10:00


I've always wondered why more people didnt mount their rack-packs in the back of the rack.  When I get my amp rack done the way I want it, thats where I'm putting mine.  I dont want any cords to have to plug in the front.  


I think Rack Packs in the front makes a lot of sense.  Power in the front, speaker power out the back.  Keeps everything neat and tidy.  And no rats nests of power and speaker cables to deal with.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 14, 2008, 10:23:14 am
Well, the way I'm designing mine, I'm going to have a multi-in, probably CPC, power in,   NL4 to each "stack" and NL4 for 2 monitor mixes (total 4).  So we're talking about one power cord, one multi, and 4 NL4's.  Its a pretty small setup.  If I can keep the inside as neat as Dave's in the pic, there shouldn't be a problem of rats-nest on the outside either.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Dan O. Anderson on May 14, 2008, 12:03:24 pm
Quote:

I've always wondered why more people didnt mount their rack-packs in the back of the rack. When I get my amp rack done the way I want it, thats where I'm putting mine. I dont want any cords to have to plug in the front.



AGREED!

http://www.andersonproaudio.com/images/system/amps-back.JPG
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 14, 2008, 02:14:20 pm
Dan O. Anderson wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 12:03

Quote:

I've always wondered why more people didnt mount their rack-packs in the back of the rack. When I get my amp rack done the way I want it, thats where I'm putting mine. I dont want any cords to have to plug in the front.



AGREED!

http://www.andersonproaudio.com/images/system/amps-back.JPG



Dan are those NL4's?  I've never seen the NL4 with the "4 corner" mounting holes. If they're NL8's....why?

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Dan O. Anderson on May 14, 2008, 02:55:46 pm
They're NL4's. "NLT4MP" to be exact.

http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_188317775/NLT4MP_deta il.aspx

I think it took me a while to find 'em on mouser, but I eventually did. I remember thinking that someone would break off the other ones that just mount with two screws. So far, so good!

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=erV61lVMm P8VfAbzeaoWdA%3d%3d

Cheers,
Dan
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 14, 2008, 03:06:53 pm
So will those fit in a panel that's pre-punched for NL8's?
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Dan O. Anderson on May 14, 2008, 03:40:26 pm
I don't know about that. If you look at the panel, you can see that things aren't perfectly lined up, meaning that i punched the thing myself with a Unibit. I remember the backs of these things being 7/8" round or maybe 1" even - I can't remember. The XLR parts were the PITA because they had little grooves in them, so it wasn't perfectly round.
( http://lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productI d=42692-281-15504SM&lpage=none)

It was a major pain in the butt, but it saves me a lot of time at gigs (important) and it looks nice (not important).
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Shane Presley on May 14, 2008, 04:01:51 pm
I couldn't resist... Some things have changed the Bringer crossover has been replaced with a DR480 ( the single space panels were removed, and all the amps bounced down one... I have all PLX 2402's now in the smaller monitor rack, and it has a twin brother... if this thread isnt' shut down in a day or so, I'll post recent pictures... I don't plan on having children, so this is as close as it gets for me... Laughing index.php/fa/15862/0/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Jordan Wolf on May 14, 2008, 04:27:03 pm
Shane Presley wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 16:01

I don't plan on having children, so this is as close as it gets for me...


As long as you keep them well-fed, I think they'll treat you well when you're older!  Laughing
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Anton Stjernbrant on May 14, 2008, 05:12:49 pm
http://star-audio.se/gfx/amps.jpg

Here's mine. They do FOH + four biamped mixes.
Mains rack has an XTA DP226 and three LG amps. Two inputs and two biampet outputs.
Monitor rack has an XTA DP448 and four LG amps. It also has a custom preset for runnit two biamped mains and two monitors for smaller gigs.

Both racks have three-phase power inlets at the back. The powercons aren't connected.

This is the largest I'll go in a while. I rent additional stuff as needed.

Anton
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Rick Stansby on May 14, 2008, 06:29:30 pm
Donnie Evans wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 07:00


I've always wondered why more people didnt mount their rack-packs in the back of the rack.  When I get my amp rack done the way I want it, thats where I'm putting mine.  I dont want any cords to have to plug in the front.  


I've always had power panels with quad boxes bolted to rack panels.  I just installed my first motion labs racpac.  It is so much deeper than my previous panels, that I almost had to put it in front.   I had a 12 space rack with 10 spaces of amps and processors.  I put the racpac at the bottom in back, as it turned out there was 1/2" gap between the back of the amps and the back of the racpac, so I could pass the IEC connectors up through the gap to plug in the amps.  Otherwise I would have had to put the panel in front, because the rear rack "ears" prevented the cables from going out to the sides.





In this picture you can see the gap from the amps in front and the racpac in back (copper color).  If the amps were any deeper there would be no gap.

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Charlie Zureki on May 14, 2008, 06:49:18 pm
 Yeh,
 Not much of a choice for some people,Sound Gear or a family. Very Happy

Hammer
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: andy craig on May 15, 2008, 06:05:55 am
Donnie Evans wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 07:06

So will those fit in a panel that's pre-punched for NL8's?


The fixing holes on the square NBL8MPR are identically spaced to the older circular flange NL8.
However....they won't air seal properly on a connector panel that is punched to take EP or Speakon connectors. If the air seal is critical, there is a rubber gasket which will do the job.
The gasket is called SCNLT, and, boy, is it hard to get hold of.
I tried to get some recently and our Neutrik dealer suggested I make them myself! Customer service anyone?
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Mike McNany on May 15, 2008, 09:30:29 am
Those are the new (about a year old) "armored" NL4s. There are new metal shelled cable ends, too. These are advertised showing some dork's foot on the plugged in connector on a monitor. Like that would ever happen  Twisted Evil

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 15, 2008, 10:23:45 am
andy craig wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 06:05

Donnie Evans wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 07:06

So will those fit in a panel that's pre-punched for NL8's?


The fixing holes on the square NBL8MPR are identically spaced to the older circular flange NL8.
However....they won't air seal properly on a connector panel that is punched to take EP or Speakon connectors. If the air seal is critical, there is a rubber gasket which will do the job.
The gasket is called SCNLT, and, boy, is it hard to get hold of.
I tried to get some recently and our Neutrik dealer suggested I make them myself! Customer service anyone?


http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=237
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Casey McDonald on May 15, 2008, 10:20:14 pm
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4519/img1791vj0.jpg

Doing Front Of Living Room for now:  Stereo three way into some EV PX1122M's for mains and a single homebrew dual 10" (HL10c) horn loaded sub.  

Most of the time the rack lives right up against a wall, so all connections out front for me.  There's a 1" standoff from the wall due to the caster board out back, so plenty of area for the fans to suck from.  That cabling doesn't looks so good bunched up back there, I really should fix that!
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 16, 2008, 11:43:30 am
Casey McDonald wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 22:20

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4519/img1791vj0.jpg

Doing Front Of Living Room for now:  Stereo three way into some EV PX1122M's for mains and a single homebrew dual 10" (HL10c) horn loaded sub.  

Most of the time the rack lives right up against a wall, so all connections out front for me.  There's a 1" standoff from the wall due to the caster board out back, so plenty of area for the fans to suck from.  That cabling doesn't looks so good bunched up back there, I really should fix that!



I hope those are all Pro7200's or 5200's.  All on one PL-8???  Shocked
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Casey McDonald on May 16, 2008, 02:23:38 pm
Donnie, one 5200 and three 7200's

PL-8 uses the first powercon in from the left, for the Dx-38's, the 5200 (HF), one 7200 (MF), and the powercon out which goes to some other low level electronics like CD player, tuner, etc.  

The other two 7200's (SUB) are on their own (the 2nd powercon in), which so far goes straight to a wall outlet.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 16, 2008, 03:31:59 pm
Ahhh... didnt notice that those were powercons.... Embarassed
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Tim Padrick on May 17, 2008, 06:53:38 pm
Donnie Evans wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 14:31

Ahhh... didnt notice that those were powercons.... Embarassed



Mmmmmm....PowerCons.

For those who are not familiar with them:

http://www.padrick.net/LiveSound/ACcables/ACcables.htm

http://www.padrick.net/LiveSound/BarDistro/BarDistro.htm
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brendan Maroney on May 18, 2008, 12:33:48 pm
Hope this counts at least as some amateur amp rack porn.  It is the whole rack, but has two amps in it so I think it qualifies.  Very Happy  It's from the theatre I work at.

Tape Deck
Lexicon Stereo Effects
Two Sabine Power-Q (EQ/Compressor/Delay)
Denon CD Player
Two Crown CE 1000 Amps

I'll put up a pic of the back if anyone cares.  I didn't do the patch bay but i think it was done well.

Brendan

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: MARK PAVLETICH on May 19, 2008, 05:13:39 pm
 4 way system, Yorkville TX8's over JBL HLA subs.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tim Padrick on May 20, 2008, 01:00:37 am
Spare, fills, subs, 2x highs, 2x lows, monitor processor, six passive mixes.  Still mine, but eventually to become the theater's (at which time it will all go into one large rack, with some much-needed cable tidy-up.

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Phil LaDue on May 20, 2008, 05:43:00 pm
Tim, how tall is that monster?
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Craig Basten on May 21, 2008, 09:51:11 pm
If I can count and my eyes aren't tricking me, that looks like three 12U racks stacked upon one another.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: David Karol on May 24, 2008, 12:31:23 am
This is the amp rack for our largest theater.  We're almost done with a major sound renovation, including a new APB Spectra T.


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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mike McNany on May 24, 2008, 12:32:02 pm
Sorry but IMHO, as Larry the cable guy would say, "Having two Furmans WITH LIGHTS stacked at the top of that rack is just plain funny, I don't care who ya are."

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Josh Oswald on May 24, 2008, 12:36:34 pm
And, don't forget the additional light unit sitting atop the half dressed amp.  Laughing  
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Randy Pence on May 24, 2008, 12:59:55 pm
or a foam shock-mount case for a fixed rig.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: David Karol on May 24, 2008, 02:30:29 pm
The XLR connector on the back is a bit funky, we're waiting on a new piece from YAMAHA.  We'll also be putting in another QSC 2450.  

In regards to the shock-mount rack, the amp rack is only fixed for three months in the summer, after that it moves around.  It's like that with all of our equipment.  

The Furmans-  Once we fill in all the amps, one will probably end up in the middle of the rack, on top of amps at some point.  The one on top is "American DJ."  I'll be doing a few repairs on that, and then it will probably end up sitting in storage.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tim Padrick on May 24, 2008, 06:08:09 pm
Phil LaDue wrote on Tue, 20 May 2008 16:43

Tim, how tall is that monster?


About 76".

I plan to replace it with a single large rack.  I'll then re-do the I/O and add some wireless mics (yuk).
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Phil LaDue on May 24, 2008, 09:03:42 pm
David Karol wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008 00:31

This is the amp rack for our largest theater.  We're almost done with a major sound renovation, including a new APB Spectra T.
It's going to be really nice once everything gets finished.
I've been up there for the last two days helping out, it looks like a great learning environment for young people in the arts.

I spent a large part of yesterday unpacking, rotating the horns and hanging some of the under balcony fill speakers.(EAW VR61)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/avkid/FW_May/100_2985.jpg
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: David Karol on May 27, 2008, 01:53:47 pm
Phil LaDue wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008 21:03

David Karol wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008 00:31

This is the amp rack for our largest theater.  We're almost done with a major sound renovation, including a new APB Spectra T.
It's going to be really nice once everything gets finished.
I've been up there for the last two days helping out, it looks like a great learning environment for young people in the arts.

I spent a large part of yesterday unpacking, rotating the horns and hanging some of the under balcony fill speakers.(EAW VR61)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/avkid/FW_May/100_2985.jpg


Hey Phil, we still have to fly the JBL's  Rolling Eyes
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brian Alleyne on May 27, 2008, 10:09:58 pm
Like to see the racks keep showing them.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Lester Moran on May 28, 2008, 10:07:30 am
Brian Alleyne wrote on Wed, 28 May 2008 03:09

Like to see the racks keep showing them.


Why not. Very Happy


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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Lester Moran on May 28, 2008, 10:08:39 am
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Raul Suarez on May 28, 2008, 01:03:47 pm
Ok.  I tried to resist.  Having a moment of weakness - must post. Wink.
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Raul Suarez
Third Ear Sound
http://www.thirdearsound.com
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brian Alleyne on May 28, 2008, 08:46:24 pm
Thirdear that rack is huge made me feel less of a man Mad ,why did you hurt me Crying or Very Sad
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Lester Moran on May 28, 2008, 09:23:41 pm
Brian Alleyne wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 01:46

Thirdear that rack is huge made me feel less of a man Mad ,why did you hurt me Crying or Very Sad


The racks are industrial, and most impressive...

It's the uploaded image that's "HUGE"...

(...and I still love it)...  Thanks, Raul!

Les

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Scott Flaws on May 29, 2008, 12:51:04 am
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:49:42 pm
Well, since we're making each others hernias act up, here's some of mine
One of 4 identical racks, each one does 4 kf850 tops and 4 sm 1000 or sb850 subs

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:51:18 pm
Rear view of those same racks, very neat and clean!
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:54:20 pm
Same type rack, does 4 tops and 2 subs, eaw 850/sb1000. Going to add another amp to do a total of 4 subs with the 4 tops this index.php/fa/16069/0/week.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:57:47 pm
Last ones, I have many more racks, but i don't want to bore ya'll.
This is a 4 mix monitor rack, bi-amped, ready to go. Built 6 of these last week.

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:59:38 pm
Rear view, same 4 mix rack. Next week, I'll shoot some of the foh drive racks and such.The mic line bundle has now been replaced with a 12 ch. mini snake, which is the in/out of the eq's and 4 return to the crossover inputs, much neater, and freed up a bunch of xlr shorties for other uses. I'll shoot the finished racks if your interested.

My main monitor amp rack is 6 dbx 260's and 12 qsc 2402's all in a double wide rack, heavy bitch she is, but a quick pack. all wired in the same style with a second eq drive rack, side by side of KT sq one eq's.

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Duncan McLennan on May 30, 2008, 09:38:53 am
Trace, what sort of power input connector is on those racks?  Looks like an L5-30, but I can't imagine that being enough power to run that many amps?  Is it an L-21 breaking out to three separate boxes, on each phase?
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: James Henriksen on May 30, 2008, 11:04:46 am
Looks like an L14-30 to me.  Seems like enough power IMO.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Duncan McLennan on May 30, 2008, 11:10:32 am
James Henriksen wrote on Fri, 30 May 2008 11:04

Looks like an L14-30 to me.  Seems like enough power IMO.


The last one is certainly a 14-30, but I was thinking more of the ones on the racks with eight PLXs.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 30, 2008, 03:53:05 pm
trace knight wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 21:59

Rear view, same 4 mix rack. Next week, I'll shoot some of the foh drive racks and such.The mic line bundle has now been replaced with a 12 ch. mini snake, which is the in/out of the eq's and 4 return to the crossover inputs, much neater, and freed up a bunch of xlr shorties for other uses. I'll shoot the finished racks if your interested.

My main monitor amp rack is 6 dbx 260's and 12 qsc 2402's all in a double wide rack, heavy bitch she is, but a quick pack. all wired in the same style with a second eq drive rack, side by side of KT sq one eq's.

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How come the EQ's weren't wired in this pic?  And the x-overs, no power?
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: trace knight on May 30, 2008, 05:25:34 pm
Because I was waiting till I finished the 12 ch mini snakes, to finish it off, would you like to see the finished product? If so, I'll be glad to send ya the rack porn!

tk

Yes, all the power inputs are L14-30. I have no problem running these racks this way, been doing it for years, the trick is just to have good stiff power and adequate feeder size. Most are 8 guage, some of the smaller racks get a 10 guage cable. I've never tripped a dual 30 yet. Now I have to say 50 hail IRON MAIDENS !
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tim Padrick on May 31, 2008, 04:06:13 am
trace knight wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 20:51

Rear view of those same racks, very neat and clean!
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That's some industrial strength AC hardware!  Nice work.

However: If you are feeding 240 or three phase into the racks, I'm thinking that you should have breakers on the inlet.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on May 31, 2008, 11:21:36 pm
Tim Padrick wrote on Sat, 31 May 2008 01:06


However: If you are feeding 240 or three phase into the racks, I'm thinking that you should have breakers on the inlet.

Tim, that makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: E. Lee Dickinson on June 01, 2008, 12:31:53 am
Well, while it's not the voltage I'm concerned about, I do agree with Tim. It appears that Trace is feeding unbreakered 20a outlets with 30a service.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John Horvath on June 01, 2008, 12:53:31 am
Trace doesn't need breakers if that's an L14-20 or an L21-20.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: trace knight on June 01, 2008, 01:16:28 pm
I am in the middle of rebuilding these racks for the summer season, I  have to keep them working until I can finsh off the power distros for each rack, due to the shallowness of the rack depth, I am constructing custom metal work for the inlets along with breakers and service outlets, similar to rac-paks, just more inline with keeping things compact. It's a work in progress. I'm sure there are lots and lots of worse wired racks out there, and most of them scare me!

tk
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John Horvath on June 01, 2008, 09:39:50 pm
 Here's the amps from the show I'm on right now..

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The MC2 rack is currently running Nexo Alpha.  There's another MC2 rack on the other side of the stage.  Each rack could run 14 boxes of Alpha, but that's loading the mid-high amp down with 6 M3's.  Works a lot better with no more than 3 or 4.  We're doing 10 boxes per rack right now.

Middle Crown rack is mixes 1 thru 4.  Crown rack 2 is another 4 mix rack, currently running a pair of drum wedges and my cue wedge.  Sidefill rack was left on the truck since we're on a teeny-weeny SL100.

Exciting.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tim Padrick on June 02, 2008, 04:02:59 am
Pascal Pincosy wrote on Sat, 31 May 2008 22:21

Tim Padrick wrote on Sat, 31 May 2008 01:06


However: If you are feeding 240 or three phase into the racks, I'm thinking that you should have breakers on the inlet.

Tim, that makes no sense at all.


Anytime you are splitting a feed (240 in to dual 120s, or three- phase to triple 120s) the resulting splits should be individually breakered.  I doubt code allows it to be done otherwise.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on June 02, 2008, 05:29:05 am
Tim Padrick wrote on Mon, 02 June 2008 01:02

Pascal Pincosy wrote on Sat, 31 May 2008 22:21

Tim Padrick wrote on Sat, 31 May 2008 01:06


However: If you are feeding 240 or three phase into the racks, I'm thinking that you should have breakers on the inlet.

Tim, that makes no sense at all.


Anytime you are splitting a feed (240 in to dual 120s, or three- phase to triple 120s) the resulting splits should be individually breakered.  I doubt code allows it to be done otherwise.

True, but you're looking at the tail and trying to describe the head. You have no idea how Trace's distro is configured. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I see no reason why he couldn't be feeding each L14-30 with 2 single-pole 30 amp breakers.

E. Lee Dickinson, on the other hand, is correct. A L14-30 inlet should not be feeding edison outlets without breakers.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Paul Reedy on June 02, 2008, 07:56:42 am
Vinny D'Agostino wrote on Tue, 25 December 2007 11:15

Not many pictures in this topic  Confused

So here is what I have for my FOH rack, it's not much compaired to what most of you use but it's mine and it's paid for Very Happy

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/139vinny/Gear/rack002.jpg?t=1198602587

A trusty ole Ashly XR1001 crossover, a PLX3402 powering my RCF ART325i, and my new RMX4050HD powering a pair of Yorkville LS608's.
It does the job nicely  Smile


I thought I was seeing double...

http://www.tulsadj.com/images/sound/heavyrack.jpg

This drives some old custom boxes I built many year ago filled with Eminence Kappa Pro LF 15's and Kilomax Pro 18" subs.  In retrospect I wished I had looked at a little more efficient driver, but wanted to see what the Kilo's would do, and this is the only amp I have that can really make them kick.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: trace knight on June 02, 2008, 11:50:50 am
My distros are all breakered inputs and outputs, so there is lots of redundancy there, I have 200 amp main, and all outputs are either 30 amp single, double, or 20 amp single or double, depending on use. In addition, all racks are being fitted with breakout distro's for the edisons............lots of breakers are involved when having so many feeds and subfeeds and panels. I should own stock in GE
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Dylan Shepherd on June 03, 2008, 10:39:04 am
Hey John,

How are those Mc2 amps working out on the alpha ?
Are you running the S2 with the mc2 as well?

I've only heard the alpha rig with MA5002 or Camco - I Preferred the MA's.... saying that, both in different rooms, different scale of system etc etc.

P.s n o one run with this and start the what amp sounds better crap Very Happy
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Toby Mills on June 03, 2008, 10:57:32 pm
+1 on the MC2's though not using them with a Nexo rig like John.
We are running just about identical MC2 racks to John except we drive the horns with an E15 or some have an E&W ES2000 (will dig out a photo).

A small number of E45's can drive a large rig in a very low density / weight rack.

The new E-80's look very interesting, I can't wait to get my hands on one and we are slowly in the process of converting monitor racks over to the T4-250.

I like these better than the equivalent Labs and they are around the same price. They are rated slightly lower in output power, but they don't run out of go go juice on those long sustained bass notes like the labs sometimes do at full power.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Toby Mills on June 03, 2008, 11:00:22 pm
+1 on the MC2's though not using them with a Nexo rig like John.
We are running just about identical MC2 racks to John except we drive the horns with an E15 or some have an E&W ES2000 (will dig out a photo).

A small number of E45's can drive a large rig in a very low density / weight rack.

The new E-80's look very interesting, I can't wait to get my hands on one and we are slowly in the process of converting monitor racks over to the T4-250.

I like these better than the equivalent Labs and they are around the same price. They are rated slightly lower in output power, but they don't run out of go go juice on those long sustained bass notes like the labs sometimes do at full power.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John Horvath on June 04, 2008, 12:02:33 am
Dylan Shepherd wrote on Tue, 03 June 2008 09:39

Hey John,

How are those Mc2 amps working out on the alpha ?
Are you running the S2 with the mc2 as well?

I've only heard the alpha rig with MA5002 or Camco - I Preferred the MA's.... saying that, both in different rooms, different scale of system etc etc.

P.s n o one run with this and start the what amp sounds better crap Very Happy

The owner of this particular company doesn't like to sell anything, so he kept all of his old Crest 8001s after putting together the MC2 racks.  On lower budget shows, the Crest racks go out, and the general consensus is they sound better.  The downside is they have little headroom, just enough to get Alpha going and that's about it.  I hate to say because I'm not a big proponent of the 'This amp sounds better than that amp' argument, but if I was forced at gunpoint to comment I would say the MC2 sounds a little tighter, more focused, cleaner.  The Crests sound warmer, tubby, loose, but both tubby & loose in a good way.  Whatever, it doesn't matter too me, I'm happy with either rack because IMO, it's what we do upstream and the boxes that matter more than amp choice.. Alpha would sound fine if ran with CS800s.

And yes, the S2s are ran with MC2.  
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brian Wynn on June 04, 2008, 12:52:45 am
John Horvath wrote on Tue, 03 June 2008 23:02

Dylan Shepherd wrote on Tue, 03 June 2008 09:39

Hey John,

How are those Mc2 amps working out on the alpha ?
Are you running the S2 with the mc2 as well?

I've only heard the alpha rig with MA5002 or Camco - I Preferred the MA's.... saying that, both in different rooms, different scale of system etc etc.

P.s n o one run with this and start the what amp sounds better crap Very Happy

The owner of this particular company doesn't like to sell anything, so he kept all of his old Crest 8001s after putting together the MC2 racks.  On lower budget shows, the Crest racks go out, and the general consensus is they sound better.  The downside is they have little headroom, just enough to get Alpha going and that's about it.  I hate to say because I'm not a big proponent of the 'This amp sounds better than that amp' argument, but if I was forced at gunpoint to comment I would say the MC2 sounds a little tighter, more focused, cleaner.  The Crests sound warmer, tubby, loose, but both tubby & loose in a good way.  Whatever, it doesn't matter too me, I'm happy with either rack because IMO, it's what we do upstream and the boxes that matter more than amp choice.. Alpha would sound fine if ran with CS800s.

And yes, the S2s are ran with MC2.  


John would know he just changed all of his amps in his Alpha rig to CS800's.   Laughing  Laughing
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Steve Kunkle on June 05, 2008, 03:09:21 am
Im starting renovations on the rack to move the driverack 480 to my FOH rack to make space to add a pl236 for mids.  

Current Set-up:

Pl 230 highs
pl 6.0 II Mids
Pl 6.0 II Subs
Pl 6.0 II More subs

New Set-up:


Pl 230 highs
Pl 236 High Mids
pl 6.0 II Low Mids
Pl 6.0 II Subs
Pl 6.0 II More subs

End Result one HEAVY amp rack... thank god they arent macrotechs
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Sean T. Stevenson on June 07, 2008, 12:50:16 pm
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This is an older photograph - there is now a third amp (a QSC3102) below the others shown.  Now before anyone gets on me about the Behringer gear, you should know that this is not a working sound rig, nor is it for performance.

This is my guitar practice / jamming rig at home.   Very Happy
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brian Alleyne on June 07, 2008, 09:32:25 pm
I am one who does not cry about behringer as I have a few pieces along with other gear. Some friends of mine use them all the time and have no complaints.There are a few problems that have been taken care of by the company,I know the mackie/aphex copying scandal and now QSC.At the lower economies to scale they produce some good pieces not everyone has a million dollars to invest in gear and they are better to start out with than some other companies. Enough nice rack!!!
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tom Manchester on June 10, 2008, 10:38:03 pm
Well it's been a couple of months and it was time again to redo the amp rack, hopefully now in it's final config. The new setup allows for the following with only needing to change DSP settings:

- 6x passive outputs
- 2x subs, 2x passive tops, 2x passive monitors
- 2x subs, 2x bi-amp mains
- 2x subs, mono tri-amp tops (with use of NL8 breakout)
- and many more!

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tom Manchester on June 10, 2008, 10:38:59 pm
back

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pete Sams on June 11, 2008, 05:03:04 pm
Here's a newer pic, these will be in use for a while until I upgrade the sub amps from Yamaha P7000's to PC9501N's or similar.
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pete Sams on June 11, 2008, 05:05:50 pm
The behringer amp in the previous pic has been replace with a Yamaha p3200 for highs. It's a stereo 3way + 4 mixes. It will drive up to 4 dual 18's and 4 tops along with 500w @ 8ohms x4 monitor mixes. Heavy too.
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Victor Kouli on June 11, 2008, 11:24:49 pm
And by the looks of it every single amp is plugged into a Furman power strip?  Smile
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mike Kirkpatrick on June 11, 2008, 11:39:33 pm
Victor Kouli wrote on Wed, 11 June 2008 23:24

And by the looks of it every single amp is plugged into a Furman power strip?  Smile


A 15amp strip at that  Shocked

What ya mixin ? Bluegrass ? Wink
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John William on June 15, 2008, 08:36:47 am
some of my ampracks.....

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/johnkobe/AmpRack2.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/johnkobe/11052008670.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/johnkobe/amprack-1.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/johnkobe/Eiriasamprack.jpg

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mike McNany on June 15, 2008, 09:51:08 am
John,

Can't decide which amplifier brand you like?

Or rack style, for that matter?

Consistancy makes for simplicity of operation, and looks best, too  Very Happy

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brian Alleyne on June 15, 2008, 10:18:10 am
My racks have amps by Stewart,QSC,Crest,Crown,Mackie,AB and Lab Gruppen so I appreciate the multi amp racks.     http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewIma ge&friendID=137202091&albumID=0&imageID=13149761
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John William on June 15, 2008, 01:12:10 pm
Mike McNany wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 08:51

John,

Can't decide which amplifier brand you like?

Or rack style, for that matter?

Consistancy makes for simplicity of operation, and looks best, too  Very Happy

Mike McNany



Nah! I operate in a lot of different markets with my PA gear, so need lots of different amps + racks for all the configurations of speakers i use. My racks look great! Very Happy
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on June 15, 2008, 05:13:54 pm
John Kobe wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 13:12

Mike McNany wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 08:51

John,

Can't decide which amplifier brand you like?

Or rack style, for that matter?

Consistancy makes for simplicity of operation, and looks best, too  Very Happy

Mike McNany



Nah! I operate in a lot of different markets with my PA gear, so need lots of different amps + racks for all the configurations of speakers i use. My racks look great! Very Happy



Except for all the random tape on the amps...




Evan
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John Horvath on June 15, 2008, 08:58:51 pm
John Kobe wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 12:12

I operate in a lot of different markets with my PA gear, so need lots of different amps..

So there's a market out there where it makes sense to use a Chevin running one thing, and a Peavey running something else on the same show?  Or a nice BSS processor hooked up with a piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp?  Sorry, no company needs six different brands of amplifier, other than companies that don't care about uniformity & consistancy in their equipment's function, usability, troubleshootability, and appearance.  A company needs maybe two brands - The higher-end A/B rig type amps, and the lower-end or old inventory C/D rig amps that you keep around to send out on low budget shows.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Dylan Shepherd on June 15, 2008, 09:01:31 pm
John Horvath wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 10:58

John Kobe wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 12:12

I operate in a lot of different markets with my PA gear, so need lots of different amps..

So there's a market out there where it makes sense to use a Chevin running one thing, and a Peavey running something else on the same show?  Or a nice BSS processor hooked up with a piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp?  Sorry, no company needs six different brands of amplifier, other than companies that don't care about uniformity & consistancy in their equipment's function, usability, troubleshootability, and appearance.  A company needs maybe two brands - The higher-end A/B rig type amps, and the lower-end or old inventory C/D rig amps that you keep around to send out on low budget shows.




You said what i was thinking..... Rolling Eyes


Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Aaron Kovacik on June 15, 2008, 09:44:04 pm
Quit ripping on the guy, if they were your racks you could change them. If they work for him then let them work for him. Who cares what it looks like, most of the people listening wont even know the difference. He posted this in this thread, which resides in the lounge, give the guy a break. Just cause you can afford to have all pretty Crown, QSC or what ever other brand makes you feel sufficient, doesn't mean you have to bash on a guy who can't afford, or better yet, does not find it economical enough to purchase that kind of inventory. IF IT DIDN'T MAKE HIM MONEY HE WOULD CHANGE. (correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will)

"piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp?"

I'm starting to get really sick of all the people brand bashing around here. I work in my job with top of the line equipment. D&B, L'acoustics, Dolby Lakes, Crown, QSC, Lab Gruppen, Midas and the list goes on and on. I also own my own gear, which is not full of such esteemed names. I do own some behringer (oooo, i said it...) and plenty of other lower end gear. Is it the best? NO. Does it work for what I need? Yes. Maybe we could have discussion instead of bashing on him....i think Mike had the right idea....he wasn't accusing, he was just suggesting.
I won't comment any further, cause I'm sure you will have lots of clever arguments to use against me, but I really can't spend all my time writing about why you guys should play nice.

-Aaron
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: David Luscombe on June 15, 2008, 09:47:57 pm
Aaron Kovacik wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 11:44

Quit ripping on the guy, if they were your racks you could change them. If they work for him then let them work for him. Who cares what it looks like, most of the people listening wont even know the difference. He posted this in this thread, which resides in the lounge, give the guy a break. Just cause you can afford to have all pretty Crown, QSC or what ever other brand makes you feel sufficient, doesn't mean you have to bash on a guy who can't afford, or better yet, does not find it economical enough to purchase that kind of inventory. IF IT DIDN'T MAKE HIM MONEY HE WOULD CHANGE. (correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will)

"piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp?"

I'm starting to get really sick of all the people brand bashing around here. I work in my job with top of the line equipment. D&B, L'acoustics, Dolby Lakes, Crown, QSC, Lab Gruppen, Midas and the list goes on and on. I also own my own gear, which is not full of such esteemed names. I do own some behringer (oooo, i said it...) and plenty of other lower end gear. Is it the best? NO. Does it work for what I need? Yes. Maybe we could have discussion instead of bashing on him....i think Mike had the right idea....he wasn't accusing, he was just suggesting.
I won't comment any further, cause I'm sure you will have lots of clever arguments to use against me, but I really can't spend all my time writing about why you guys should play nice.

-Aaron


yep you said exactly what i was thinking. i for one don't post pics of my stuff because it will only lead to bashing.

if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all(except if it is constructive and usefull and said in a nice manner).

cheers dave

cheers dave
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John Horvath on June 15, 2008, 10:52:59 pm
It's one thing to come on here and say all my stuff is mismatched because it's all I could afford, or I built it over a long period of time, or I purchased the entire lot at an auction.  But to come on here and say that you designed it that way, that's when I call bullshit.

And yes, I bashed the B*hringer EQ and I'd do it again.  Those particular EQ's are, well I won't say it again.  However, I still love the DEQ2496, and even the DCX2496 when it's not crackling.  And I owned Composers, Autoquads, and Multigates for many years, and I still don't mind using them.

And my post was constructive - Sometimes it takes a few 'not so polite' comments for someone to get organized.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:19:33 pm
Here are my rack pics. We just finished our monitor rack redesign so we can do 4 mixes with parallels on inputs and outputs as well as an NL8 for 4 mixes to a 4 output drop box.
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:20:46 pm
The back
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Ignore the dodgy power board, I'm still waiting on my electrician to build me some Powercon strips to mount in the rack and tidy it all up even more.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:21:37 pm
Drop Box from the side
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:23:12 pm
Drop box from the end. There is an NL8 each end so you can daisy chain the drops.
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:26:24 pm
And my FOH amp rack.
2 x QSC PL230 (L+R for 7 box/side Martin W8LM array)
1 x QSC PL380 (2 x Martin WS218X subs)
1 x QSC PL218 (Front fills that are waiting to be replaced with a better option)
1 x Dolby Lake 8in/8out
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Dan Brown on June 16, 2008, 11:51:12 pm
Tony Peaker wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 20:19

Here are my rack pics. We just finished our monitor rack redesign so we can do 4 mixes with parallels on inputs and outputs as well as an NL8 for 4 mixes to a 4 output drop box.

snip picture



Unfortunately you didn't need such a big amp.
I am sure it is fine but the processor will just limit it way early.

a Tecton 28.2 would have been fine.

The rated amp output will give you the rated peak SPL as listed.
FYI.

never bad to have more than enough but you may have been able to buy a little more.

db
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 17, 2008, 12:50:24 am
Dan Brown wrote on Tue, 17 June 2008 13:51


Unfortunately you didn't need such a big amp.
I am sure it is fine but the processor will just limit it way early.

a Tecton 28.2 would have been fine.

The rated amp output will give you the rated peak SPL as listed.
FYI.

never bad to have more than enough but you may have been able to buy a little more.

db


Yep, I know all that. When we were buying there were no Tecton 28.2's in the country and the cost of getting them in was the same as the 38.4.  Also, we are looking at PS15's to add to the inventory which will use the 38.4's also.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Karel 'Charly' Will on June 17, 2008, 09:25:26 am
Hi Tony,

I presume you control the lake with your computer, but still I find it strange that you put the patch panel above the lake, with the cables hiding the controls. I would have mounted the lake on top of your rack, so you could reach it more easily.

Other than that, nice racks!

Karel Will
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Dan Brown on June 17, 2008, 10:41:32 am
Tony Peaker wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 23:50

Dan Brown wrote on Tue, 17 June 2008 13:51


Unfortunately you didn't need such a big amp.
I am sure it is fine but the processor will just limit it way early.

a Tecton 28.2 would have been fine.

The rated amp output will give you the rated peak SPL as listed.
FYI.

never bad to have more than enough but you may have been able to buy a little more.

db


Yep, I know all that. When we were buying there were no Tecton 28.2's in the country and the cost of getting them in was the same as the 38.4.  Also, we are looking at PS15's to add to the inventory which will use the 38.4's also.



Well there you go.

The 38.4 should be a good fit for the PS15's

Looks like your upgrades are going well.

db
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 17, 2008, 06:22:58 pm
Quote:

Karel 'Charly' Will  

Hi Tony,

I presume you control the lake with your computer, but still I find it strange that you put the patch panel above the lake, with the cables hiding the controls. I would have mounted the lake on top of your rack, so you could reach it more easily.



The rack itself actually sits on top of our patch bay at the venue so putting the Lake right at the top would actually mean that it would be unuseable Smile

But yeah, we control everything on the Lake with a tablet pc so the only time I have to touch the controls are during power up.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 17, 2008, 06:28:36 pm
[quote title=Dan Brown wrote on Wed, 18 June 2008 00:41Well there you go.

The 38.4 should be a good fit for the PS15's

Looks like your upgrades are going well.

db[/quote]
We currently have 3 38.4's with 6 PS10's in our rig. The plan is to hopefully get two 28.2's and 3 mirrored pairs of PS15's with 3 PS15 TD controllers.  The racks should then look like this:

4 Mix PS15 Rack
2 x Camco 38.4
2 x PS15 TD Controller

4 Mix PS10 Rack
2 x Camco 28.2
2 x PS10 TD Controller

2 Mix PS10 or PS15 rack (Portable for those crappy little gigs)
1 x Camco 38.4
1 x PS10 TD Controller
1 x PS15 TD Controller
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John William on June 17, 2008, 07:35:06 pm
John Horvath wrote  

 And yes, I bashed the B*hringer EQ and I'd do it again.  Those particular EQ's are, well I won't say it again.  However, I still love the DEQ2496, and even the DCX2496 when it's not crackling.  And I owned Composers, Autoquads, and Multigates for many years, and I still don't mind using them.

And my post was constructive - Sometimes it takes a few 'not so polite' comments for someone to get organized.



Your post is not constructive in the slightest, not that anyone asked you to "organise" this thread anyway!! This is a thread to post pics of amp racks which i did, not to bash equipment and call "bullshit" on me as you did, and quoted me as saying something that i didn't (i never said that I "designed it that way")

John Horvath wrote  


So there's a market out there where it makes sense to use a Chevin running one thing, and a Peavey running something else on the same show? Or a nice BSS processor hooked up with a piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp? Sorry, no company needs six different brands of amplifier.


you know nothing of my company and market so your blanket statment is naive, the little Chevin amp runs some 1"horns and the peavey runs the mids, is that such a strange concept to you!




thanks David and Aaron, as you mentioned correctly what the guy above does not realise is all the amps in the pics I posted work perfectly and make good money.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mark Dawson on June 18, 2008, 07:31:49 am
Chevins are really nice amps to have on high's. Experienced that quite a few times.   Good luck with your shows, ignore the "boy racers" here that have to polish their rigs to feel good.   I'd rather have a beat up old LG than a shiny QSC anyday :)Smile
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John Cameron on June 18, 2008, 10:31:03 pm
I've got 2 of these
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: David Buehler on June 19, 2008, 02:52:54 am
here's mine, been posted here before...

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Brian Alleyne on June 19, 2008, 09:35:13 pm
Good business,like the rack porn it is getting me excited.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Scott Smith on June 19, 2008, 10:17:57 pm
David Buehler wrote on Thu, 19 June 2008 02:52

here's mine, been posted here before...


David, you NEED to resize your photo to appropriate size!  It's off the screen!  Shocked  
800 pixels wide or less is good...
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Ernie Bellamy on June 20, 2008, 11:50:12 am
Now if im  reading it correctly, you are powering 14 w8lm's with just 2 amps.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Silas Pradetto on June 20, 2008, 04:46:12 pm
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Silas Pradetto on June 20, 2008, 04:47:16 pm
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tim Kartes on June 23, 2008, 01:59:39 am
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/6017/frontofampracksgr8.th.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4016/backofampracknm1.th.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5558/backofampracks1ky8.th.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/977/backofampracks2jk0.th.jpg

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5817/insidebackpanelwx7.th.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4938/backofampsno7.th.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3255/powerdistroforampsbd1.th.jpg

Just my little weekend toy box  Very Happy
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on June 23, 2008, 03:02:13 pm
Hey Silas,

Where did you get those rack drawers?

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 24, 2008, 01:45:11 am
Ernie Bellamy wrote on Sat, 21 June 2008 01:50

Now if im  reading it correctly, you are powering 14 w8lm's with just 2 amps.

That's correct. We are running them passive so the top PL230 handles Left & Right top 4 boxes and the bottom PL230 handles Left a& Right bottom 3 boxes.

It's not ideal and I would love to run them active with an amp channel for 2 sets of 3 boxes and a separate one for the downfill (W8LMD) but I can't fit any more amps into the space available.

Maybe if I get my upgrades to the venue patching system that I want and can move the amps to a better spot I'll go active with the rig but for now it's fine.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Ernie Bellamy on June 24, 2008, 01:16:40 pm
How does it sound
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 24, 2008, 06:05:14 pm
I like it and I haven't had any complaints from touring crew. It would definitely benefit from being run active but then that's the case with any passive/active switchable box.

I do have to spend some time as soon as we get a gap in our schedule (currently I have 15 free days left between now and the end of the year) to tweak the crossover point between the W8LM's and the WS218X's. I'm not 100% convinced that the 8" drivers can really handle the 70Hz crossover that Martin specs.

If I had my druthers I would have switched over to the Nexo Geo S12 rig that I wanted last year but unfortunately the budget didn't run to that. So, for now I get along happily with this system Smile
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Silas Pradetto on July 07, 2008, 07:54:28 pm
Pascal Pincosy wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 15:02

Hey Silas,

Where did you get those rack drawers?




They're Audiopile brand. Only problem with them is they don't stay closed unless you lock them. I have one Middle Atlantic drawer at FOH, and while it's 3 times the $, I'd buy them from now on.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on July 07, 2008, 08:02:33 pm
Silas Pradetto wrote on Mon, 07 July 2008 16:54

Pascal Pincosy wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 15:02

Hey Silas,

Where did you get those rack drawers?




They're Audiopile brand. Only problem with them is they don't stay closed unless you lock them. I have one Middle Atlantic drawer at FOH, and while it's 3 times the $, I'd buy them from now on.

Huh. I have a recently-purchased Audiopile rack drawer with an entirely different handle. It has no problem staying closed, and the latch is very similar to the Middle Atlantic drawer.

And I really don't like those latches...  Sad

Thanks for the reply!
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Silas Pradetto on July 07, 2008, 09:49:01 pm
Mine are probably a year or two old now. I got mine back when they were about $30 each. If the new ones are like MA, then I'll be getting some more and selling these.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Simon Stavenuiter on July 08, 2008, 08:36:49 am
Lab Gruppens ready for action.

JBL SRX 4 send Passive monitor sleeve - FP10K+
JBL VRX/SRX Stereo 2 Way Rack with 4 Sends passive monitors - PLM10K+ and FP10K+
Nexo GeoS Amp Rack - 2 x NX241 and 4 x FP13K+

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Chris Gruber on July 08, 2008, 12:30:32 pm
Here is my little monster. It is currently awaiting a LG FP10K+ which will drive 4 proprietary Dual 18" subs. Nevermind that ADJ p.o.s. on top. It's just killing space. Also a DR480 will be in there soon.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Matt Duncan on July 08, 2008, 12:40:24 pm
Here are some pics of my rig. Currently, its only for my band so its configured that way. Its not a monster, but, its the first rig I've ever actually owned. I'm proud of it & it sounds good.  Cool  

I'm on ears, & the rest of the band is currently on wedges. However, I've almost got two other members ready to take the iem plunge, but, the bassist is broke so he'll stick with a wedge for now.

Specs:

Yamaha 01V96v2
Digimax FS
Sennheiser EW300IEM G2
Furman PM-8 II
QSC PLX2 1804
EWI 2spc drawer
EWI case
patchpanel & hardwired split
custom power distro with powercons, & quadbox stringers

(not pictured since this is rack porn, not rig porn)
QSC HPR 181i subs
QSC HPR 122i tops
Yamaha ClubV wedges (on the list to purchase next)

I also need to get a few more blank panels to clean up the looks.

front
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3435/img0694mediumaq3.jpg

rear
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/5209/img0696mediumpc8.jpg
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Jeff Robinson on July 08, 2008, 01:08:46 pm
My racks hard at work, doing PA and recording simultaneously (announce and soloist mics in both and 4 mics recording only.
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KC Women's Chorus at St. Theresa's Academy.

The bottom rack has a Crown XTI4000, 2 XLS402's and 1 Crest 1001 with a McLellan crossover.

Jeff Robinson
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Dylan Shepherd on July 09, 2008, 06:58:27 am
Is this still going on?

How about a 'Truck Porn' thread.

Sometimes 9 pages of amps gets a bit boring  Laughing
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Tate_Tullis on July 09, 2008, 07:11:41 pm
Dylan Shepherd wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 05:58

Is this still going on?

How about a 'Truck Porn' thread.

Sometimes 9 pages of amps gets a bit boring  Laughing


lol truck porn. haha. totally going to go take a picture of our truck now haha
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Steve Hurt on July 09, 2008, 10:09:05 pm
Dylan Shepherd wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 06:58

Is this still going on?

How about a 'Truck Porn' thread.

Sometimes 9 pages of amps gets a bit boring  Laughing




How about an "overpacked vehicle" thread.

My van often is packed as tight as a clown car at the circus
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: John Cameron on July 09, 2008, 10:17:41 pm
Steve Hurt wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 22:09

Dylan Shepherd wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 06:58

Is this still going on?

How about a 'Truck Porn' thread.

Sometimes 9 pages of amps gets a bit boring  Laughing




How about an "overpacked vehicle" thread.

My van often is packed as tight as a clown car at the circus


Start one, I've got a few pics to add Smile
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Patrick Campbell on July 13, 2008, 11:45:24 am
Took a while but here are my racks guys. One FOH and a one monitor rack that can run 6 mixes.

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Patrick Campbell on July 13, 2008, 11:45:47 am
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Patrick Campbell on July 29, 2008, 09:42:50 am
Here is a pic that is about 18 months old but reflects what I bring to an outdoor show

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mario Data on July 29, 2008, 07:36:56 pm
It is a work in progress. I'm Hoping to add some bigger power. It works for what I do, but I have no headroom. And I know those xlrs are a little off, they weren't the exact ones for this panel.

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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: michel van de beek on July 31, 2008, 02:35:36 am
We wanted a modular easy to use rack. And this is what we 'cooked' up:
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: jason burk on August 05, 2008, 06:03:10 pm
pic of my monitor rig.

16 ch. mixwiz

the first 4 auxes go through the 2 1231 eq's which then go to the qsc mx1500a amps on the bottom that are then going to 4 of my community xlt48m wedges.

then the 5th aux goes to the 2031 eq that goes to my qsc hpr 18 sub and 3 way top for drum fill

then aux 6 doesnt have an eq on it yet, but if necessary, ill throw a srm450 "rover" as an add on mix.

then i got a 16 channel split panel that i wired.

i dont have pics of the back yet, but it's pretty nice.

speakons are screwed into the back bottom of the case. and if someone wants to use an in ear line, then i dont have to disconnect anything. ill just come out of the alternate 1/4 out on the eq. so its a cool setup just heavy.index.php/fa/17269/0/
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II - Go ahead, laugh
Post by: Lukas Mondoux on February 27, 2009, 07:02:14 pm
andy craig wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 05:05

Donnie Evans wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 07:06

So will those fit in a panel that's pre-punched for NL8's?


The fixing holes on the square NBL8MPR are identically spaced to the older circular flange NL8.
However....they won't air seal properly on a connector panel that is punched to take EP or Speakon connectors. If the air seal is critical, there is a rubber gasket which will do the job.
The gasket is called SCNLT, and, boy, is it hard to get hold of.
I tried to get some recently and our Neutrik dealer suggested I make them myself! Customer service anyone?

Old post I realize, but I've always had good luck finding obscure Neutrik parts from Full Compass.

Here is the gasket you're looking for.

http://www.fullcompass.com/search.php?search_simple=true& ;txtAll=SCNLT

Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: chris fletchall on March 11, 2009, 10:19:54 pm
Here is my little slice of porn.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: chris fletchall on March 11, 2009, 10:25:09 pm
Front.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: JonathanSmith on March 11, 2009, 11:04:30 pm
Steve Hurt wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 20:09

Dylan Shepherd wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 06:58

Is this still going on?

How about a 'Truck Porn' thread.

Sometimes 9 pages of amps gets a bit boring  Laughing




How about an "overpacked vehicle" thread.

My van often is packed as tight as a clown car at the circus



I don't have many truck pack pictures, but this was the tour I was on in 2002. We had to pack the truck 3 times before hitting the road so we could get the weight distributed properly. When all was said and done, we weighed 79,800lbs with the driver and full fuel tanks. We were close enough to being overweight that we had to put our boxes of batteries for our 24 wireless units in the bus.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1gWi0XTRKFQ/Sbh4ti8bbkI/AAAAAAAAAlI/RCNR5pvvpuY/s800/essad%20007.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1gWi0XTRKFQ/Sbh4ttGnajI/AAAAAAAAAlQ/5oorQY6-Q10/s800/essad%20017.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_1gWi0XTRKFQ/Sbh4t2TDHwI/AAAAAAAAAlY/JK7_cNA_mzg/s800/essad%20029.jpg
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mike Kirkpatrick on March 11, 2009, 11:11:16 pm
Here is digital before it was cool. Cool  Also before it was reliable  Rolling Eyes

Affectionately know as the space shuttle.
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Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Marjan Milosevic on March 12, 2009, 07:21:11 am
Which mixes is that? I dont recognize it.
Title: Re: Amp Rack Porn Part II
Post by: Mike Kirkpatrick on March 12, 2009, 07:36:05 am
Marjan Milosevic(MarjanM) wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 07:21

Which mixes is that? I dont recognize it.


That's a midi controller. I don't remember what model it was as things were changing week to week with this rig. The monitors were touchscreens so it was just as easy to use those. The whole system ran on 2, 700hz PC's each loaded with Yamaha DSP factory cards.