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Title: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: SoundMan Ray on April 22, 2004, 04:47:17 pm
Has anyone out there compared the LabHorn in a shootout or side by side with the Cerwin-Vega T-36 or the Martin WSX....??? Thanks,any input would be appreciated...SoundMan Ray
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: JR Rager on April 23, 2004, 01:47:54 pm
Yes, There is no comparison. You hear a lab next to a vega you realize you have been missing an octave...lol
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: SoundMan Ray on April 23, 2004, 06:10:45 pm
How about the Martin WSX..??? Thanks for your input! Very Happy
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: PowerSound on April 23, 2004, 07:40:51 pm
Off-Topic : JR Rager, could we have a larger picture of your avatar  Very Happy  Rolling Eyes . Looks interesting Wink
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: JR Rager on April 23, 2004, 09:13:01 pm
HaHa, that is the system I built for the non-profit organization to which I am the president. Unfortuniatly I think I overwrote the orignal picture when I made the avatar.  Sad

Actually that system is pretty intense. 4xcustom horns that I designed and built based on the formulas used to design the labsubs. (just 2x15" instad of 2x12 and a litle different folding to accomodate the extra horn length. 2x15 midbass and 1x15 in mid tops x 2. It is funny cause I bought 4 cheapo peavey plastic cabs and reloaded them with some eminence delta 15's and slenium dt205TI's and they sound pretty amazing.

Anyways to stay on topic, the labs definiatly outperform the vegas. I used to run 4 vegas a side (Cool for my club system. 2 labs per side easily surpasses output under 50hz and sound so much less distorted.

I havent used the Martin subs, to be honest I have heard alot of subs and I am truly impressed with the labs, and the design theory is more than sound as I was able to use the same fomulas on my own design as well and achieve some pretty amazing results.

If you have the capacity to build the labsubs I recommend them 100% over anything you can buy as they are truly amazing. I am gonna build another set of 4 labs this summer as I sold my other set. As much as I like and am proud of my own design the darn things are just too big!

JR

Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: SoundMan Ray on April 24, 2004, 10:28:19 am
Thanks,JR...! I appreciate all your input!
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: Michael_Elliston¶ on April 26, 2004, 12:54:01 am
As far as i know,the wsx cabinet has a higher cut off ~39hz.

The real matter is,that for a 30hz horn,is that the lab12 is the perfect driver for these horn parameters

(having 12mm xmax(per sub) helps too)
Cheers!
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: Tamas Tako on April 26, 2004, 11:55:12 am
Hi,

What is on your picture? Is it a TCsound speaker????
Is it your?

Cheers,

TT
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: Tamas Tako on April 26, 2004, 12:04:27 pm
I just measured two WSX together at 3m distance. they had a -6dB lo freq. corner @50Hz... Very dissapointed...

TT
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: Michael_Elliston¶ on April 26, 2004, 11:12:11 pm
That isnt suprising

that woofer,i saw it on a TERMPRO.com forum,it just looks nice.

-and i didnt have any other pics to put there yet.

Very Happy
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: Eric Wong! on May 15, 2004, 11:53:36 am
That woofer looks like an adire tumult.  i used to have one.
Title: Re: LABHORN vs CERWIN-VEGA
Post by: Graeme Goodacre [Centauri on May 16, 2004, 12:52:10 pm
TT wrote on Tue, 27 April 2004 02:04

I just measured two WSX together at 3m distance. they had a -6dB lo freq. corner @50Hz... Very dissapointed...

TT


I used to run a Martin rig using the WSX, and they do sound nice in stacks of 6, but due to their shorter horn path still don't go as low as the LabSub will.

Cheers
Graeme