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Title: Mic suggestion for live acoustic guitar application
Post by: Guy Morris on January 31, 2011, 11:44:10 am
Hello

I have a job coming up which is a recital from a well respected  classical guitarist. He does not use pick ups and would normally not require any S/R but the event will be staged using two adjoining rooms so those seated in the second room will require some  help to hear the recital fully due to the acoustics. I have some good suitable mics for  acoustic guitar but was looking into either having a Neumann KM184 or AKG 414 XLS on inventory for this kind of occasion. The Neumann appeals  as it is a smaller discreet mic but I do not want to compromise sound for size, both microphones are in the running so thoughts from those that have used either or both please.
Title: Re: Mic suggestion for live acoustic guitar application
Post by: Geoff Doane on January 31, 2011, 02:50:30 pm
The KM184 (or hyper-card 185) mic is one of the go-to mics for acoustic guitar where I work.  Schoeps Collette series also get the nod.  And although we've got lots of 414s, I don't think anyone ever uses them for acoustic guitar (not sure why, I probably should try it sometime).

Another mic that doesn't suck for this is the AKG C460B+CK61 (the C460 has been replaced by the C480 in the AKG lineup).

GTD
Title: Re: Mic suggestion for live acoustic guitar application
Post by: Dave Unger on January 31, 2011, 03:34:12 pm
The KM184 is one of my favorite guitar mics.  I use them all the time.  They can be a little tricky in the monitors.  The 414 is also great on a guitar, but wouldn't be my first choice.
Title: Re: Mic suggestion for live acoustic guitar application
Post by: Karl Winkler on January 31, 2011, 06:11:50 pm
Both mics should be fine for this purpose. The 184 might sound a tad more "natural", and it is easier to place and hide. Both mics have a touch of lift in the highs, so it may be desirable to knock off just a hair of the top so they don't sound too bright when close-miking the guitar.
Title: Re: Mic suggestion for live acoustic guitar application
Post by: Guy Morris on February 01, 2011, 07:32:53 am
Thanks guys very helpful feedback, looks like the Km184 from the two possibles is the mic of choice for the application and as its a more affordable price I may go for a matched pair for future use!
Title: Re: Mic suggestion for live acoustic guitar application
Post by: Jay Barracato on February 01, 2011, 09:04:32 am
Depending on the artists likes/dislikes, if the artist is seated you may want to consider adding an over the shoulder mic in addition to the front stand.
Title: Re: Mic suggestion for live acoustic guitar application
Post by: Iain.Macdonald on February 01, 2011, 02:55:11 pm
Guy,

The KM is a nice mic. But my preference would be something from Earthworks. I think they just sound more open and natural.

Iain.


ps if you are Guy from Wales. Kevin at Unity Audio (http://www.unityaudio.co.uk/) has demo packages.
Title: Re: Mic suggestion for live acoustic guitar application
Post by: Marsellus Fariss on February 05, 2011, 05:43:41 am
The KM184 is one of my favorite guitar mics.  I use them all the time.  They can be a little tricky in the monitors.

"A little tricky in the monitors?" Yea, here's tricky... hot humid summer day in the south and Tony Rice comes at you (the on monitors) with a pair of 184's on a big festival stage w/ no soundcheck under a giant tin roof and says "we'll use these. get em' up so we can hear will ya?" Good thing there were 12AM's on the stage that day. And that the Turbo rig was pretty well aimed. That's some stressful shit when don't have SMAART around. Even so when you do.