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Title: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: dave milton on February 11, 2019, 08:16:23 pm
OK, this is far and away THE most important sound reinforcement question.

You know those little blue rubber bumper/rings on the grills of Beta58, Beta87a, etc. mics?  Does anyone know a trick to getting them to stay in place?  Once they come out/off just one time, I've found them nearly impossible to get back on in such a way that they stay put.  Most frustrating.

Honestly, I don't really care all that much that they HAVE to go back on, and simply pulling them off for good is certainly an option.  But it just seems like such a simple/easy thing that for some reason I just can't make work.  THAT is what's so frustrating.  And what I want to know how to make work.

Please help.

d.
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: Brian Jojade on February 12, 2019, 12:50:04 am
Once they stretch from being pulled off, it's pretty much time for a new mic. :/
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: Chris Grimshaw on February 12, 2019, 03:55:43 am
What he said. If you send your faulty mics to me, I'll make sure they're properly disposed of. For a small fee, of course.

More seriously, a couple of dots of superglue will help.

Chris
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: Steve Oldridge on February 12, 2019, 10:51:51 am
OK, this is far and away THE most important sound reinforcement question.

You know those little blue rubber bumper/rings on the grills of Beta58, Beta87a, etc. mics?  Does anyone know a trick to getting them to stay in place?  Once they come out/off just one time, I've found them nearly impossible to get back on in such a way that they stay put.  Most frustrating.

Honestly, I don't really care all that much that they HAVE to go back on, and simply pulling them off for good is certainly an option.  But it just seems like such a simple/easy thing that for some reason I just can't make work.  THAT is what's so frustrating.  And what I want to know how to make work.

Please help.

d.
What the heck are you doing with your mics to cause those to come off?  In 25 yrs, I have NEVER seen one come off on it's own !
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: Ken Braziel on February 12, 2019, 11:09:45 am
What the heck are you doing with your mics to cause those to come off?  In 25 yrs, I have NEVER seen one come off on it's own !

Many cases made for mics have holes that are exactly the size of a standard 58's grill, so dropping your Beta's in there can rub the rings off.
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: Steve Oldridge on February 12, 2019, 11:35:24 am
Many cases made for mics have holes that are exactly the size of a standard 58's grill, so dropping your Beta's in there can rub the rings off.
Ok.. but never had that problem.. Most are foam, and a little care in putting them away alleviates that issue :)
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: Taylor Hall on February 12, 2019, 11:57:38 am
Many cases made for mics have holes that are exactly the size of a standard 58's grill, so dropping your Beta's in there can rub the rings off.

This was our issue as well. We just took a paint pen to them and called it a day.
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: Geoff Doane on February 12, 2019, 12:20:46 pm
Many cases made for mics have holes that are exactly the size of a standard 58's grill, so dropping your Beta's in there can rub the rings off.

That 's not the case for my mics (they live in valise-style cases), but all the Beta58s lost their rings after a few years.  I just attributed it to handling by the "artists".

As an aside, the Beta grills are a lot tougher (and a lot more expensive!) than the regular 58 grills.  I moved the ringless grills over to the B kit that is stocked with SM58s, and bought new Beta grills from Shure for the A kit.  At least one of my "Beta58s" is actually a Beta57 with a ball grill on it.  The mics appear to be exactly the same without the grills.  Definitely sounds closer than a Beta58A does.

GTD
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: frank kayser on February 12, 2019, 11:42:28 pm
I guess that begs the question: What use is the ring?
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: Erik Jerde on February 13, 2019, 01:18:22 am
I guess that begs the question: What use is the ring?

It lets people know you spent more money on your mic than $100.
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: Chris Hindle on February 13, 2019, 07:39:21 am
It lets people know you spent more money on your mic than $100.
On mine, I had the wife (steadier hands than mine) use some enamel model paint to "apply" the ring. Plenty of colour selection, and itsy-bitsy bottles.
1 bottle could probably do 100+ rings. It's a "thicker" paint, so it fills the grove nicely. Stays shiny forever.
Chris.
Title: Re: Those little blue rubber rings on Beta mics....how to keep them on?
Post by: jon mccumber on February 15, 2019, 06:47:45 am
Automotive pin striping tape worked pretty good on mine. Just get the thinnest kit you can find. Available in any color you want. Works good for marking gear was well