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Title: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 13, 2018, 08:05:43 am
There's a few posts on the forum about KD Canopy. The comments are positive.  Looks like I may choose them for my next (immediate) upgrade.  Did an event last Saturday with my white tent... it was hot and humid; the white canopy didn't offer too much "shade".

Does anyone use a KD canopy with a canopy that that does not allow light through (or at least blocks a lot of light)?  I've always used white canopies, of which it hasn't mattered how dense the canopy fabric is, it's always too bright under it - hard to see the LED lights on the console, and I feel I never am really out of the sun. 

I wouldn't mind having a PVC (Vinyl) tent, but I think those may be too heavy and too $$$$.

Was looking at the KD Majestic canopy (10' x 10'), but with a blue canopy to help reduce the light. What ever I decide on will need to have 4 walls to keep out rain.

Anyone have experience with the Majestic model?

I'm also looking a Shelter Logic (http://www.shelterlogic.com/shop/commercial-10-x-10-ft-pop-up-canopy-by-quik-shade). 
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Brian Bolly on June 13, 2018, 08:35:51 am
We've got a white top, but the KD XTF model is the "buy once, cry once" tent.  You may eventually need to replace the top, but short of running it over with the truck it is likely the last one you'll ever buy.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Steve Litscher on June 13, 2018, 09:55:24 am
We just bought a few of the KD tents. They're nice, although quite pricey once you include sidewalls. Was surprised to find that the boxes said "Made in China," and even more surprised when we saw an identical version (aluminum hex legs, same mechanisms) at a festival a few weeks ago. Chatted-up the owner of the tent, and he got his on Amazon for about 1/2 the price. Even had the same carrying bag.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Mal Brown on June 13, 2018, 12:00:10 pm
Iím running with the KD Blue Canopy.  we got rained on last friday night.  gusts to 40 mph.  worked great I had a full tent of photogs and other event staff.  we were the only dry spot on the site.  we tied off to the bleachers we were setup behind.  Saturday morning, another site.  Same winds less rain I ballasted 3 corners. 

for me the KD was a deep gulp.  Iím reminded of my investment in K&M.  I believe the saying goes buy once, cry once.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 13, 2018, 01:06:49 pm
We just bought a few of the KD tents. They're nice, although quite pricey once you include sidewalls. Was surprised to find that the boxes said "Made in China," and even more surprised when we saw an identical version (aluminum hex legs, same mechanisms) at a festival a few weeks ago. Chatted-up the owner of the tent, and he got his on Amazon for about 1/2 the price. Even had the same carrying bag.
Yes.  This concerns me.  I've come across a couple of other tent models that look identical to other tents I've seen.  KD seems a bit pricey, but if the tents work and hold together well, I have no issue spending the money - though, if I can find the same thing elsewhere (under a different name...?), I'll go that route.

Iím running with the KD Blue Canopy.  we got rained on last friday night.  gusts to 40 mph.  worked great I had a full tent of photogs and other event staff.  we were the only dry spot on the site.  we tied off to the bleachers we were setup behind.  Saturday morning, another site.  Same winds less rain I ballasted 3 corners. 

for me the KD was a deep gulp.  Iím reminded of my investment in K&M.  I believe the saying goes buy once, cry once.

Thanks for the info.  In the times you have used it on sunny days, does it do a decent job of keeping the light out?  What size of tent are you using?

Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Mal Brown on June 13, 2018, 02:46:03 pm
10x10 no side walls.  We sometimes have to move the mixer table depending on where the sun is but we donít have deal with bleed from the sun through the top.

We are Soundcraft UI and SI based.  So iPads and the SI menus are mandatory for us.


Ambient wind speed is too hopping for side walls where Iím located... mine is vented at the top with the center pole.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Tim McCulloch on June 13, 2018, 02:54:28 pm
Yes.  This concerns me.  I've come across a couple of other tent models that look identical to other tents I've seen.  KD seems a bit pricey, but if the tents work and hold together well, I have no issue spending the money - though, if I can find the same thing elsewhere (under a different name...?), I'll go that route.
Thanks for the info.  In the times you have used it on sunny days, does it do a decent job of keeping the light out?  What size of tent are you using?

Bob, the spec to look for is the UV rating.  The higher the number the more opaque to UV.  White is still white but you can clip a smaller tarp inside the frame if you need more shade.

I've been looking at Eurmax canopies (some models on Amazon).  About 4 or 5 price levels where the primary difference is in the frame supplied.  Looks like 2 or 3 grades of tops in the spread, too.  Might be worth a look.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Rob Spence on June 13, 2018, 11:26:06 pm
I have a couple of Ez-Up canopies. I bought a replacement blue opaque top for it. When it must be white like all the rest, I put the white one back on over the blue. Works fine for me


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Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Mal Brown on June 14, 2018, 01:17:26 am
Reminds me that I need to order a pure white non-logo top...
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 14, 2018, 07:05:16 am
Bob, the spec to look for is the UV rating.  The higher the number the more opaque to UV.  White is still white but you can clip a smaller tarp inside the frame if you need more shade.

I've been looking at Eurmax canopies (some models on Amazon).  About 4 or 5 price levels where the primary difference is in the frame supplied.  Looks like 2 or 3 grades of tops in the spread, too.  Might be worth a look.
Thanks for the Eurmax suggestion.  Yes, I tried using a smaller tarp (vinyl), but could not get it to fit without having to get the ends pulled tight, which caused the tent frame to distort.

I have a couple of Ez-Up canopies. I bought a replacement blue opaque top for it. When it must be white like all the rest, I put the white one back on over the blue. Works fine for me


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I started with EZ-Up many, many years ago.  They were great, but the canopy wore out fairly quickly, and the construction of it was beginning to show its limitations (and lifespan).  However, thinking about it, I'm fairly confident I bought a lower-economic model at that time.  Perhaps I'll revisit them.

Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 14, 2018, 07:37:13 am
Looking at the Q/A section for EZ Up, appears the EZup canopies are NOT water-proof, but are water resistant.  Considering what anyone on this forum would be covering, a water-proof tent would be the only choice.

I don't recall the name of the one I have, but I'm sure it is not water-proof.  Considering the deluge of rain that can pop-up quickly out here, water-proof is the only way to go.

Anyone using a water-proof canopy/tent?


 
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Mark Cadwallader on June 14, 2018, 10:10:08 am
Unless a sewn product has been seam-sealed, it can only be (at best) "water resistant."  It is my general understanding that the FTC (in the US) has fairly strict regulations on when a product can be labeled "waterproof" vs "water resistant."  Look at high-end watches - they are now listed as only waterproof to a specific depth or pressure. YMMV.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Ken Braziel on June 14, 2018, 10:40:14 am
Can't speak for KD, but I just got one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZS0NYG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 - and used it at a notoriously windy festival all last weekend. I put up one side-wall on Sunday to force the cross-traffic away from my mixing world. Held up great all weekend.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 14, 2018, 12:11:17 pm
Can't speak for KD, but I just got one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZS0NYG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 - and used it at a notoriously windy festival all last weekend. I put up one side-wall on Sunday to force the cross-traffic away from my mixing world. Held up great all weekend.
Thanks,

How did it do with keeping the sunlight attenuated inside?  Is the "fabric" good?

Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Dave Garoutte on June 14, 2018, 12:26:46 pm
I went with a black Eurmax 8x8 pop up.
It has worked well for me. 
I wanted the smaller footprint, and the black helps with the Faderglow on my Performer.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Lyle Williams on June 14, 2018, 04:49:27 pm
Do people encounter "must be white" event rules a lot? 
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Mac Kerr on June 14, 2018, 07:18:36 pm
Do people encounter "must be white" event rules a lot?

Yes.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 15, 2018, 06:30:10 am
I went with a black Eurmax 8x8 pop up.
It has worked well for me. 
I wanted the smaller footprint, and the black helps with the Faderglow on my Performer.
Being able to see flashing lights and LCD screens is part of the reason I'm needing some that can block out as much light as possible.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Michael Lascuola on June 15, 2018, 06:54:34 am
I went with a black Eurmax 8x8 pop up.
It has worked well for me. 
I wanted the smaller footprint, and the black helps with the Faderglow on my Performer.
This is probably all I need, but I am frequently alone for the early part of the setup.  Can this be set up by a single (tall) person, in a reasonable amount of time?
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 15, 2018, 07:06:48 am
Bob, the spec to look for is the UV rating.  The higher the number the more opaque to UV.  White is still white but you can clip a smaller tarp inside the frame if you need more shade.

I've been looking at Eurmax canopies (some models on Amazon).  About 4 or 5 price levels where the primary difference is in the frame supplied.  Looks like 2 or 3 grades of tops in the spread, too.  Might be worth a look.
Tim - how did you clip a smaller tarp on the inside?  I currently have an 8x8; tried attaching an 8x10 (vinyl tarp) to the underside of the frame - the part just above head level.  I could never get the tarp tight enough (without damaging the frame) to remove the sagging.  Extended the tent taller to get the sagging out of the way, but that ended up letting more light in.

I'm open to suggestions!
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 15, 2018, 07:10:51 am
This is probably all I need, but I am frequently alone for the early part of the setup.  Can this be set up by a single (tall) person, in a reasonable amount of time?
In my experience, any tent labeled as a "pop up" can easily be setup with one-person.  I've had 3 tents over the past 20 years, all "pop up", and all were setup by myself at every event.  Depending on if the canopy has to be placed on the frame (like some models) or if the canopy is already attached to the frame (like EZ-Up), it can range from 2 min. to 5 min. for setup.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Michael Lascuola on June 15, 2018, 07:55:35 am
Great news - thanks for the info Bob!
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Mal Brown on June 15, 2018, 10:58:31 am
The KD 10x10 would be a stretch for 1 guy in my experience...

Havenít yet run into a white only environment but Iím adding a white logoíless top anyway as there are sometimes when my logo top seems inappropriate... I did go a little overboard on the logo... in retrospect I should have toned it down.

Whatever you get, make sure it is one the center peak, vented design if wind is a consideration.





Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Dave Garoutte on June 15, 2018, 11:36:43 am
This is probably all I need, but I am frequently alone for the early part of the setup.  Can this be set up by a single (tall) person, in a reasonable amount of time?
I can do it solo, but I usually accost a couple of passers-by to help for a minute.
Tall not required.

Bob, on the inside tarp sag issue, Poke a hole in the center and bungee it to the center of the pop up.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Steve Ferreira on June 15, 2018, 01:12:24 pm
I have a 10'x15' canopy like the KD XTF series. I got the top in white with company name on all 4 sides, sand bags and 1 wind wall. I have had this canopy for about 10 years now and have never had a problem with rain getting through it. I leave the canopy top on even when storing it. Just close it up and put it in the bag. I should buy the 3 other walls to seal it off at night during multi day events. Very happy with my purchase.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 15, 2018, 01:33:27 pm
I can do it solo, but I usually accost a couple of passers-by to help for a minute.
Tall not required.

Bob, on the inside tarp sag issue, Poke a hole in the center and bungee it to the center of the pop up.
Thanks for the tip.  So, I need a sacrificial tarp... I have a couple I could use.  The center of my tent has the "center push rod" along with trussing that supports the center rod.  From what you are saying, I could actually tie it off on multiple areas.

I have a 10'x15' canopy like the KD XTF series. I got the top in white with company name on all 4 sides, sand bags and 1 wind wall. I have had this canopy for about 10 years now and have never had a problem with rain getting through it. I leave the canopy top on even when storing it. Just close it up and put it in the bag. I should buy the 3 other walls to seal it off at night during multi day events. Very happy with my purchase.
Thanks.  The canopy I have is apparently water resistant, and not actually water-proof.  Where I'm located, it's common to get a huge downpour for about 1 minute... and then it moves on.  I noticed water seeping from all areas of the canopy, but could not find any holes.  After that, I always have tarps ready to deploy over the gear, even when under the tent.  I'm glad the XTF has been working for you... it's on my list.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: TomBoisseau on June 15, 2018, 03:00:24 pm
A slight deviation here, but is there no one out there making "sun shades" for the most popular digital consoles? 

I'm using mainly the Yamaha QL1 and QL5.  Granted, no one's going to get richt manufacturing such a device, but I'm still surprised no one is doing it.  Actually, it would be nice if the individual console manufacturers would offer them!

Tom

Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Dave Garoutte on June 15, 2018, 03:13:51 pm
A slight deviation here, but is there no one out there making "sun shades" for the most popular digital consoles? 

I'm using mainly the Yamaha QL1 and QL5.  Granted, no one's going to get richt manufacturing such a device, but I'm still surprised no one is doing it.  Actually, it would be nice if the individual console manufacturers would offer them!

Tom

But then they'd have to admit there is a problem.
I cut up some black foam core to make a sunshade around my Si.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 15, 2018, 03:19:50 pm
I cut some heavy cardboard; taped the ends of each cardboard together to create a tri-fold, then painted everything flat black.  When not in use, it folds up to about 1" thick.  When I need it, it just unfolds into 3 sections - presto.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Dave Garoutte on June 15, 2018, 11:28:21 pm
I cut some heavy cardboard; taped the ends of each cardboard together to create a tri-fold, then painted everything flat black.  When not in use, it folds up to about 1" thick.  When I need it, it just unfolds into 3 sections - presto.
That's what I did, just with foam core.  The art store had some that was black on one side and white on the other, so it looks nice.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Kevin Maxwell on June 16, 2018, 12:26:25 pm
This is a partial cut and paste from something I wrote almost 2 years ago with additional updated information added just today.

The white top of the tent acts as a diffuser, it doesnít cut the light by enough for me.

I have been using an M32 for outdoor shows and the trick I found to be able to see the indicators on it is I am using a dark blue tarp (blue on one side and gray on the other) that I tie up like a suspended ceiling in the tent, blue side down. It is a 10x10 foot tent and the tarp is 10x8 foot. It cuts down the light in the tent a lot. It is a very cheap tarp from Harbor freight. I have a backup for when this one tears. But it has lasted for 2 seasons now. I have a light intensity app on my phone and under the tent without the tarp in place I was reading about 1400foot candles with the tarp in place I was reading about 400foot candles. The tarp really helps.  There are a whole bunch of grommets around the edges and I have tie line attached to them. I start on one end and tie that side up and then I work my way back towards the back of the tent. I do this with the tent at a reasonable height so I can reach the frame easily. I then extend the legs to raise the tent to a reasonable level. Doing it this way isnít pulling the frame in at all, it may droop a little bit in the middle but not more than a few inches. The tarp has acted as an additional rain barrier at least once, so I hesitate to put a hole in the middle to take up the slight droop. I also use a thin (tied on) side wall that helps to keep the direct sunlight off of the mixer as the sun is going down. I tie it up and lower it more and more as needed. But usually remove it part way into the show.

I would like to find a lid for this tent that is white on the outside and black on the inside but except for a little additional time to tie up the tarp and take it down at the end of the show it doesnít seem to be worth the cost that I have seen for dark replacement lids. I was thinking of layering 2 lids on top of each other. A black one and then a white one to reflect the sunlight so it doesnít get too hot under the tent. But I havenít found what I am looking for at a reasonable price and attaching it so it doesnít blow off is a concern for me.

At a lot of these shows the sun is down enough by the time the band takes a break (if they take one) so we will sometimes break the tent down at the break time, if the weather is looking good. So the people behind us can see the stage better. The promoter has been pushing the bands to play thru without a break and then wrap up earlier. So we didnít have that break many times last season.

This tent is a little bit water resistant but we have had rains where it leaked thru but before that happens we have tarped the mixer. The biggest problem that I have seen is the top droops just enough that in a heavy rain a lot of water accumulates in the low spots and then starts dripping thru.

I have taken to removing the top when folding it up and the top seems to last longer that way. I used to just fold it up in the frame.   

I just did an outdoor Pops show last week that I also did last year. The venue has a FOH bunker cut into the side of the hill with a white cover over it. It looks like something off of a speedboat. I had a really hard time seeing the touch screen last year on the Yamaha CL5 so this year I brought along the tarp I use for the EZ-Up tent and put it over this white cover with the shiny gray side up. I tied it on the 4 corners and it reduced the intensity of the sunlight a lot. Just before show time the sun was lower in the sky and I removed the tarp because of the look of it and the wind was causing it to flap a bit. 

I would like to find a lid for this tent that is white on the outside and black on the inside but except for a little additional time to tie up the tarp and take it down at the end of the show it doesnít seem to be worth the cost that I have seen for dark replacement lids. I was thinking of layering 2 lids on top of each other. A black one and then a white one to reflect the sunlight so it doesnít get too hot under the tent.  I also use a side piece for when the sun is setting, in this case always to my left. That is just a thin white piece that came with one of our tents.     

I had one tent blow away and destroy itself even though it was staked down. I was working at one event in the south of France where the evening party tent (a BIG circus type) blew away into the Mediterranean never to be seen again. It was a big storm.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Lyle Williams on June 16, 2018, 06:59:35 pm
There is spray paint that sticks to vinyl.  Has anyone tried painting the inside of a white canopy black?  Does it show through to the outside?  Does it just look ok?
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 17, 2018, 09:35:16 am
This is a partial cut and paste from something I wrote almost 2 years ago with additional updated information added just today.

The white top of the tent acts as a diffuser, it doesnít cut the light by enough for me.

I have been using an M32 for outdoor shows and the trick I found to be able to see the indicators on it is I am using a dark blue tarp (blue on one side and gray on the other) that I tie up like a suspended ceiling in the tent, blue side down. It is a 10x10 foot tent and the tarp is 10x8 foot. It cuts down the light in the tent a lot. It is a very cheap tarp from Harbor freight. I have a backup for when this one tears. But it has lasted for 2 seasons now. I have a light intensity app on my phone and under the tent without the tarp in place I was reading about 1400foot candles with the tarp in place I was reading about 400foot candles. The tarp really helps.  There are a whole bunch of grommets around the edges and I have tie line attached to them. I start on one end and tie that side up and then I work my way back towards the back of the tent. I do this with the tent at a reasonable height so I can reach the frame easily. I then extend the legs to raise the tent to a reasonable level. Doing it this way isnít pulling the frame in at all, it may droop a little bit in the middle but not more than a few inches. The tarp has acted as an additional rain barrier at least once, so I hesitate to put a hole in the middle to take up the slight droop. I also use a thin (tied on) side wall that helps to keep the direct sunlight off of the mixer as the sun is going down. I tie it up and lower it more and more as needed. But usually remove it part way into the show.

I would like to find a lid for this tent that is white on the outside and black on the inside but except for a little additional time to tie up the tarp and take it down at the end of the show it doesnít seem to be worth the cost that I have seen for dark replacement lids. I was thinking of layering 2 lids on top of each other. A black one and then a white one to reflect the sunlight so it doesnít get too hot under the tent. But I havenít found what I am looking for at a reasonable price and attaching it so it doesnít blow off is a concern for me.

At a lot of these shows the sun is down enough by the time the band takes a break (if they take one) so we will sometimes break the tent down at the break time, if the weather is looking good. So the people behind us can see the stage better. The promoter has been pushing the bands to play thru without a break and then wrap up earlier. So we didnít have that break many times last season.

This tent is a little bit water resistant but we have had rains where it leaked thru but before that happens we have tarped the mixer. The biggest problem that I have seen is the top droops just enough that in a heavy rain a lot of water accumulates in the low spots and then starts dripping thru.

I have taken to removing the top when folding it up and the top seems to last longer that way. I used to just fold it up in the frame.   

I just did an outdoor Pops show last week that I also did last year. The venue has a FOH bunker cut into the side of the hill with a white cover over it. It looks like something off of a speedboat. I had a really hard time seeing the touch screen last year on the Yamaha CL5 so this year I brought along the tarp I use for the EZ-Up tent and put it over this white cover with the shiny gray side up. I tied it on the 4 corners and it reduced the intensity of the sunlight a lot. Just before show time the sun was lower in the sky and I removed the tarp because of the look of it and the wind was causing it to flap a bit. 

I would like to find a lid for this tent that is white on the outside and black on the inside but except for a little additional time to tie up the tarp and take it down at the end of the show it doesnít seem to be worth the cost that I have seen for dark replacement lids. I was thinking of layering 2 lids on top of each other. A black one and then a white one to reflect the sunlight so it doesnít get too hot under the tent.  I also use a side piece for when the sun is setting, in this case always to my left. That is just a thin white piece that came with one of our tents.     

I had one tent blow away and destroy itself even though it was staked down. I was working at one event in the south of France where the evening party tent (a BIG circus type) blew away into the Mediterranean never to be seen again. It was a big storm.
Thanks.

I'm thinking this may be the way to manage it.  We've always used white... but it's been a struggle every time (no actual shade... it's always "bright" under the tent... can't see the console and outboard lights). 

Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 17, 2018, 09:46:33 pm
hmmm... well, thought I would check ABC Canopy out - BBB gives them an " F "

https://www.bbb.org/central-california-inland-empire/business-reviews/online-retailer/abc-canopy-in-ontario-ca-850027333/reviews-and-complaints

Anyone purchase something from ABC within the last 3 months?  The BBB complaints are all from late 2017. 

Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Steve Ferreira on June 18, 2018, 09:46:03 am
The canopy I have is apparently water resistant, and not actually water-proof.  Where I'm located, it's common to get a huge downpour for about 1 minute... and then it moves on.  I noticed water seeping from all areas of the canopy, but could not find any holes.  After that, I always have tarps ready to deploy over the gear, even when under the tent.  I'm glad the XTF has been working for you... it's on my list.

I haven't had any issues with rain getting through my canopy. I also tarp off all equipment and lower the canopy on overnighters.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 18, 2018, 01:53:51 pm
Has anyone used Scotch Guard on their tents to help water-proof them? 

Looks like there is Scotch Guard available for tent/fabric for outdoor use.  If this stuff works, this will greatly open other doors for locating something that will work.

Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Art Welter on June 18, 2018, 02:54:46 pm
Has anyone used Scotch Guard on their tents to help water-proof them? 

Looks like there is Scotch Guard available for tent/fabric for outdoor use.  If this stuff works, this will greatly open other doors for locating something that will work.
I sprayed a large umbrella with a coat of standard Scotch Guard every season, kept it dry underneath. UV breaks it down eventually, so it won't last forever, but it's a quick fix when needed.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 18, 2018, 09:57:43 pm
I sprayed a large umbrella with a coat of standard Scotch Guard every season, kept it dry underneath. UV breaks it down eventually, so it won't last forever, but it's a quick fix when needed.
Perfect.  Thanks.
Title: Re: FOH Canopy / Tent KD??
Post by: Bob Leonard on June 19, 2018, 07:37:45 am
This may sound strange, but I was looking for an HD canopy the other day and my search brought me to gazebo's. It seems like high quality gazebos with screens, etc. are available at very good prices from all of the big box stores. Get as fancy as you want, and spend as little or as much as you want.