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Title: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on April 18, 2008, 05:47:15 pm
I know plenty of us on the LAB have been waiting for APB Dynasonics to finish the MixSwitch and that day has finally come, MixSwitch Analog Master units are now available.

As seems to be a pleasing trend, I received one of the first units off the line for the sole purpose of kicking the hell out of it and reporting back to you here on the LAB. I just un-boxed this little guy today, so all I have is some ripped off feature set info and some photos, but rest assured there will be plenty to come.

Long story short, the MixSwitch provides an easy way to connect more than one thing to your PA without having to run it through a console. I've got this one in my FOH rack so that I can run my console and another for the support act (or headliner, depending on which hat I'm wearing) into the MixSwitch and switch between them for the show, or sum them together to let us both play with the PA. Plenty of metering and PFL capability makes it easy to keep track of what's going on, plus there are additional inputs for my iPod (so I can play setup/pre-show/take down music without tying up my console), an announce mic, and a whole other set of ins for a DJ or CD player. All the non-primary inputs have basic EQ and limiting to keep things under control. Also provided is a 15 pin connector for linking to additional MixSwitch slave units, or to allow general purpose switching/muting and indicators of the success of the same. The "iPod" and Announce Mic inputs are available on the front and rear panels for easy setup.

While I'm using this in its traditional capacity, clubs that don't have live sound every day may find it handy to tie their DJ into their sound system without re-patching, or to have basic announcements without having to touch anything. There's also plenty of capability to have an emergency system override of the sound system that would mute music from the consoles but still allow the PA to be used for announcements.

For more advanced needs, you can tag on a bunch of MixSwitch slaves (I think I pinned JP down to admitting that 8 would be allowable, which offers 36 input switching).

In any case, here's the full feature set again stolen from APB's website, and some photos:
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Jordan Wolf on April 18, 2008, 07:25:16 pm
Looks like another great unit from the folks at APB - can't wait for the reviews.  I'm planning on going up to tour the factory sometime in the summer.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Chuck Augustowski on April 23, 2008, 02:16:25 pm
Here is an additional front panel photo of MixSwitch:

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Chuck Augusowski
APB-DynaSonics
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Chuck Augustowski on April 23, 2008, 02:18:00 pm
And a little better rear panel photo of MixSwitch:

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Chuck Augustowski
APB-DynaSonics
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: drewgandy on April 25, 2008, 09:02:43 am
Bennett Prescott wrote on Fri, 18 April 2008 16:47

I know plenty of us on the LAB have been waiting for APB Dynasonics to finish the MixSwitch and that day has finally come, MixSwitch Analog Master units are now available.

While I'm using this in its traditional capacity, clubs that don't have live sound every day may find it handy to tie their DJ into their sound system without re-patching, or to have basic announcements without having to touch anything. There's also plenty of capability to have an emergency system override of the sound system that would mute music from the consoles but still allow the PA to be used for announcements.




I'm having a hard time accepting the term "DJ" in relation to this product.  It looks sweet but its got to be completely out of budget for all but the most discerning DJs;)  Major festivals (obviously) and large churches are where I see this really being used.  Of course the yellow buttons and sony gray background make me think its a video switcher.  But what do I know?

drew
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Jordan Wolf on April 25, 2008, 10:20:19 am
drewgandy wrote on Fri, 25 April 2008 09:02

Bennett Prescott wrote on Fri, 18 April 2008 16:47

I know plenty of us on the LAB have been waiting for APB Dynasonics to finish the MixSwitch and that day has finally come, MixSwitch Analog Master units are now available.

While I'm using this in its traditional capacity, clubs that don't have live sound every day may find it handy to tie their DJ into their sound system without re-patching, or to have basic announcements without having to touch anything. There's also plenty of capability to have an emergency system override of the sound system that would mute music from the consoles but still allow the PA to be used for announcements.




I'm having a hard time accepting the term "DJ" in relation to this product.  It looks sweet but its got to be completely out of budget for all but the most discerning DJs;)  Major festivals (obviously) and large churches are where I see this really being used.  Of course the yellow buttons and sony gray background make me think its a video switcher.  But what do I know?

drew


I'm pretty sure that Bennett meant the clubs would purchase the MixSwitch so that patching in a DJ's rig would be simplified.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on April 25, 2008, 09:01:17 pm
Drew,

The idea is that a club that has live music most nights can leave their installed PA and live band board in place and when it's time for a DJ, press a button and be ready to go, with a nice stereo limiter in place to keep an overenthusiastic noise maker under control. The controls for that could be anywhere, due to the GPIO on the back, and with the MixSwitch locked in an equipment room club management won't have to worry about having their patrons molecules disassociated by high SPL on off days.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Jordan Wolf on April 25, 2008, 11:49:23 pm
Bennett Prescott wrote on Fri, 25 April 2008 21:01

...and with the MixSwitch locked in an equipment room club management won't have to worry about having their patrons molecules disassociated by high SPL on off days.


Heh...sounds like an advertisement to me! Very Happy
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on April 26, 2008, 08:48:06 pm
I stopped by APB on Friday for unrelated reasons, and talked to JP about some questions I had about the MixSwitch. He asked me if mine had the transformer option. That was the first I'd heard of it, so I took a photo. Mine doesn't have the transformers, but just so y'all know it's available from the factory on the main outs:

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We'll be using the Road Test MixSwitch at Bamboozle this coming weekend.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on April 26, 2008, 08:50:14 pm
Here's a detail shot about how complex the front panel controls are... Olga, JP, and Taz do some amazing engineering work. Those are 4 layer boards.

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That plug in card is metering, the one next to it (closest to you in the shot) is the limiter card, it's replaceable for easy modification.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on April 26, 2008, 08:52:38 pm
MixSwitches ready for final testing...

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Sorry for the mediocre image quality, I only had my phone and I was behind the scenes.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: drewgandy on May 16, 2008, 12:29:22 pm
Bennett Prescott wrote on Fri, 25 April 2008 20:01

Drew,

The idea is that a club that has live music most nights can leave their installed PA and live band board in place and when it's time for a DJ, press a button and be ready to go, with a nice stereo limiter in place to keep an overenthusiastic noise maker under control. The controls for that could be anywhere, due to the GPIO on the back, and with the MixSwitch locked in an equipment room club management won't have to worry about having their patrons molecules disassociated by high SPL on off days.


I understand the function. And it looks to be quite elegant. I just have a hard time seeing a lot of the combo livemusic/dj clubs adding this to their rack of behringer stuff. I can hear the pitch from the installer: "You've just invested a lot of money.  Now we need to protect that $10k investment by adding this $2k mixswitch."  But don't mind me, I don't get out much.
 
That said, I just came up with a techie question about the club scenario.  How would you deal with aux fed subs?  The live music console would feed three lines to the switch but a DJ would likely only feed the L/R.  How do you feed to the subs from the DJ input?  (or an ipod for that  matter) If you assign to 1/2 and 3 at the same time does it mix the 1/2(L/R) together to feed the #3 output?  

drew
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Chuck Augustowski on May 16, 2008, 12:55:10 pm
If your DJ Mixer only had Left-Right outputs while your FOH console and system uses Left-Right-Sub, we would suggest that you use the Stereo Line Input for your DJ input (Bonus, a limiter is available - With On switch - on this channel with adjustable threshold).  This gives you assignment to Bus 1 and 2 as the default Left/Right Stereo Mix.    You have two addition summed mono Mix Buses to assign to from this input.  If your FOH console/System is using 3 OR 4 as the Sub Mix, you would assign this DJ input to 3 or 4 as a summed Mono of the stereo input to the sub channel in balanced with the Left/Right mix.  This doers not need to be a DJ mixer but instead could be a 3rd console in festival applications. Note that this is the Stereo Line Input.  

You can use the additional "Stereo Program Input" in the same way (2 DJ's), but usually this is meant as a direct music playback into your system (No DJ) enabling both front (iPod) or rear panel music playback input for your system without depending upon your console for this playback.  (HF/LF EQ as well as limiter included on Stereo Program Input) This also means you can start tearing down you console while still providing music (and announcements) without depending upon your console for this function.

Chuck Augustowski
APB-DynaSonics
Title: MixSwitch at Bamboozle '08
Post by: Bennett Prescott on June 08, 2008, 01:07:42 pm
We used a MixSwitch at one of the B stages at Bamboozle a few weeks ago. The stage was split in half, with continuous music all three days of the festival. It switched an M7CL and an LS9, while one act played on one desk the other side of the stage set up for the next act. After that set, a simple button press effected the switch over.

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[edit: Thanks to Mike Butler for the great shots!]
Title: Re: MixSwitch at Bamboozle '08
Post by: Bennett Prescott on June 08, 2008, 01:08:37 pm
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Title: Re: MixSwitch at Bamboozle '08
Post by: Bennett Prescott on June 08, 2008, 01:10:41 pm
Here's the MixSwitch remote that we also saw at Musikmesse this year... JP built it and lent it to me. It uses the General purpose I/O connector on the back of the MixSwitch to do basic switching, muting, and tallying. Nice to have a little control interface to slip between the consoles.

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Title: Re: MixSwitch at Bamboozle '08
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on June 08, 2008, 01:11:07 pm
I saw that stage when I was there. I was wondering how it was setup between the 2 boards... QSC wideline for PA IIRC...



Evan
Title: Re: MixSwitch at Bamboozle '08
Post by: Bennett Prescott on June 08, 2008, 03:09:07 pm
Yep, it's LABster Mike K's rig (sorry, Mike, can't spell your last name so I'm not going to try), Wideline with Danley TH-115 subs. I was nailed down in the bubble at our stage the whole show, so I didn't get to hang out at any of the other stages.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Nick Aghababian on June 10, 2008, 04:36:01 pm
Might be a dumb question, but what is the third and fourth I/O channels for?  Aux subs or something like that?
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on June 10, 2008, 04:59:17 pm
They're for whatever you need, but I use one of them for a mono sub bus. It's expandable, so four are just there as a convenient number for LCR+M, or LR+M and maybe fills... or whatever.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Mac Kerr on June 10, 2008, 05:06:05 pm
Nick Aghababian wrote on Tue, 10 June 2008 16:36

Might be a dumb question, but what is the third and fourth I/O channels for?  Aux subs or something like that?
There is a lot more to a big PA than left and right. Here is a photo of a console at a corporate show I did a while back. there are 15 speaker drive lines on that output section. If we had to do a console changeover on this show it would take 4 mix switches, even with 4 channels per switch. Four just seems like a sensible number. Left, right, front fill, subs, or what ever you might need, but it's expandable if you need more.

Mac
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Chuck Augustowski on June 10, 2008, 07:16:50 pm
There is no limit to the amount of MixSwitch-Expanders that can be added to a mix Switch and each has 4 In + 4 In to 4 Out.  Two  monitor consoles with 24 output channels each would require 1 MixSwitch plus 5 MixSwitch Expanders.  This only expands the amount of output channels switched.

A single Mix Switch can switch up to three consoles when the stereo Line Input section is used for the 3rd console even though you only have Left and Right inputs, but this is routable to 1 and 2 outputs as a Left and Right signal and to outputs 3 and 4, both as a Mono signal.  When you add another MixSwitch master, you can now switch 5 consoles by plugging the 2nd mix switch into the 4 XLR connectors of primary input B.

Chuck Augustowski
APB-DynaSonics
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Nick Aghababian on June 10, 2008, 10:16:06 pm
Mac Kerr wrote on Tue, 10 June 2008 17:06

Nick Aghababian wrote on Tue, 10 June 2008 16:36

Might be a dumb question, but what is the third and fourth I/O channels for?  Aux subs or something like that?
There is a lot more to a big PA than left and right. Here is a photo of a console at a corporate show I did a while back. there are 15 speaker drive lines on that output section. If we had to do a console changeover on this show it would take 4 mix switches, even with 4 channels per switch. Four just seems like a sensible number. Left, right, front fill, subs, or what ever you might need, but it's expandable if you need more.

Mac


I see.

I was thinking Console A + Console B > Switch > Processing only. **Think Bigger**
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Steve Payne on June 11, 2008, 09:02:53 am
Our MixSwitch is now permanently mounted in the main drive rack and we used it for the first time on a Disco Biscuits show to interface their Digidesign into our system - LR mains and LR infills -.  There was a DJ (as in big time DJ, if there's such a thing) playing through our Spectra Ti when it was time for the Disco Biscuits to start their show.  Pat, the Biscuits mixer, asked me "Can we fade him down and me up at the same time?"  "Sure" I said.  I hit the sum button,  faded the DJ down as Pat faded his console up.  Than I unassigned the Spectra from the MixSwitch and finally unassigned the sum function.  Done.  Says Pat:  "That thing's cool."
I agree.

Here's a really lousy low light photo taken with my iphone.

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Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Chris Buford on June 12, 2008, 06:55:06 pm
Steve Payne wrote on Wed, 11 June 2008 08:02

Our MixSwitch is now permanently mounted in the main drive rack and we used it for the first time on a Disco Biscuits show to interface their Digidesign into our system - LR mains and LR infills -.


Does this mean I can divert this thread into a Digi Venue vs APB Spectra sound debate Wink

Maybe I'm just bitter because I'm stuck with a PM4000 doing high school graduations.

Good to see it made it out of the shop and into the rack.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on July 27, 2008, 01:03:23 pm
Here's another unexciting story of the MixSwitch doing exactly what it's supposed to do. I traveled down to sunny Asbury Park, New Jersey to put up a PA for Government Mule (plus weird opener!) this past Saturday. FOH featured an APB Spectra Ti 48 for the support act and the headliner's Digico D5, patched into the A and B inputs (respectively) of the Road Test MixSwitch, running L, R, Fills and Sub. We also plugged a CD player into one of the stereo line inputs on the MixSwitch, as well as an announce mic to make sure the PA sounded like an SM58. The MixSwitch fed a Dolby Lake Processor which handled audio from there.

JP's handy remote control and tally indication box hung out at console level to make sure we would never need to bend over to push any buttons, here TSL crew member Joe Vitagliano inspects it for proper operation:

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Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on July 27, 2008, 01:09:14 pm
After I'd done my system tuning tricks and was satisfied that the PA was running on all 8 cylinders, I switched over to the headliner's desk and asked Gov't Mule's FOH engineer Slim if he'd like anything done with the system. I had fills underneath the line array hangs on each side to fill in the first 20' or so, and he asked for an additional set of vocal only fills on the front of the stage, to be fed from an aux on his console. No problem, I just patched his aux into input 3 on the MixSwitch, leaving a whole input not even used on the opener's side of the MixSwitch. A small pair of powered speakers were placed DS and attached directly to the MixSwitch's output #3. A happy compromise, now my fills keep their coherency with the whole of the PA, and he has his vocal fills to give a little boost where he wants them.

Here's an action shot of the MixSwitch and DLP mid-show:

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Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on July 27, 2008, 01:18:27 pm
The MixSwitch remote interface (and the little box JP built to attach to it) was quite handy, especially because it indicated to me that I'd left the CD input (which goes directly to the mains) on with the gain all the way down. I turned it off to make extra sure we wouldn't be hearing any playback mid-set.

My only worry the entire day was that it was a little too easy for someone to accidentally switch between or mute consoles mid-set... yes, you have to hold the button down for a second or so to switch, but one little button holds the power to shut the PA right off, as far as the headliner is concerned. With that button on both the front panel of the MixSwitch and on the little remote (which could be anywhere its cord can reach, god forbid the headliner's BE forget what it does and set a coffee mug down on it) I had it nagging at the back of my mind the whole show. It would be very nice if there were some way to "lock" the MixSwitch so that a switch must be pushed or a toggle flicked to allow switching between consoles... it just makes me nervous to have this one little unit arbitrating what audio gets to reach the mains.

In any case, a minor complaint, otherwise the little guy was great, provided an interested and brief conversation between the headliner's BE and myself, and saved us from having to patch one board into another, or anything of the sort. Heck, we could have struck the support board after their set if we'd wanted to, but there was plenty of time after they got off to do that and limited space at FOH.

Here's the little guy making music happen during the show:

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Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on July 27, 2008, 01:25:34 pm
Finally, a pre-show glamour shot from FOH. I never did see him use those big Tannoy reference monitors... I was kind of hoping he would just to hear what he'd do with them, only 100' from the mains or so.

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Unfortunately, this is probably the last time this particular MixSwitch will appear in a Road Test context, as I believe Jason is buying it.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on July 27, 2008, 01:30:00 pm
Here's that photo in a higher resolution, but not embedded, for those of you who would like to nit-pick my rigging Wink
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Lee Brenkman on July 28, 2008, 12:20:37 pm
I note only that the side fills dwarf the cabinets in the main hang by a considerable amount.

Can't, nor am qualified to critique the rigging.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Jason Dermer on July 29, 2008, 12:42:44 am
If Bennett is going to keep showing off his end of my rig, I get to throw at least one pic of my "after 21 years in this business I finally have everything that I want at FOH just in time to buy the inevetable PM5d" setup. Even if it is early in the day and I have not yet had the time to dress it yet.
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Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: ThomasDameron on July 29, 2008, 01:03:53 am
Jason,

That is gorgeous.  If you were to run all of your M2k's and M3k in dual input mode you could use every aux on the console.  True American excess.

Bennett,

I agree with you that it would be good to see some kind of safety on the switching of the Mixswitch.  As it is pretty much one of the primary vertebrae in the PA, don't you think the idea of the remote is a little ill conceived?  I could see putting a tap delay or some fx triggers on a remote, but why on Earth would you want the controls to change consoles close at hand?  I'm sure I would immediately drop my cans or talkback mic on it at the worst possible time.  Don't get me wrong, I think every festival rig should have a Mix Switch, but you're only going to use it once after the headliner sound checks, and once more before they go on.  Why would anyone want that button, that's getting pushed twice a day, close at hand?  Maybe they can re-engineer the remote to be the lockout switch.  At very least it needs to have the safety caps on the buttons like most SIP buttons.

Keep up the good work APB.  Just a little constructive criticism.  I look forward to every chance I get to mix on your consoles, and I'm doing my part to spread the word.  My dream is that every Venice on the planet will be promptly replaced with a ProDesk and they will all be turned into Easter decorations.  

thomas d.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Bennett Prescott on July 29, 2008, 02:44:39 am
ThomasDameron wrote on Tue, 29 July 2008 01:03

If you were to run all of your M2k's and M3k in dual input mode you could use every aux on the console.  True American excess.

Don't tempt him! He'll do it!

I hear he's wanting to buy a 56 frame so he can use the extra channels for FX returns...
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Joseph Yoon Jr. on July 29, 2008, 03:12:33 am
ThomasDameron wrote on Mon, 28 July 2008 22:03

My dream is that every Venice on the planet will be promptly replaced with a ProDesk and they will all be turned into Easter decorations.  

thomas d.




and they would be PRETTY decorations with all that color  Twisted Evil  Very Happy
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Chuck Augustowski on July 29, 2008, 08:56:38 am
The remote is not an actual APB product but rather an example JP (John Petruceli - Chief Engineer of APB) came up with to show how the MixSwitch could be wired to be control from a remote location.  Bennett, upon seeing this box in our factory, asked to use it and we let him though there is no current intention to offer this remote as part of our APB product line.

MixSwitch is more difficult to accidentally switch when it is used (without a remote) in a rack as the change over switches must be held in place to cause the switch to occur.  Tapping it quickly will have no effect.  

Chuck Augustowski
APB-DynaSonics
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Jason Dermer on July 29, 2008, 10:50:37 am
Bennett Prescott wrote on Tue, 29 July 2008 02:44

ThomasDameron wrote on Tue, 29 July 2008 01:03

If you were to run all of your M2k's and M3k in dual input mode you could use every aux on the console.  True American excess.

Don't tempt him! He'll do it!



Bennett you already know that I do it just that. And it really isn't excess per say, here is how I configure it if I am mixing:

Aux1: Subs, fed to the mono bus from the aux so that it both tracks with the mains and gives the option of just hitting the mono output on the strip to have the subs at zero.

Aux 2: SPX90  Mono in stereo out. Yep, I just bought this one N.O.S. to replace one that I retired two years ago. Preset 15, Symphonic, is one of my favorite sounds of all time and the versions on later SPX models just aren't the same. I use this one for chorus FX as well. Returns to stereo 1.

Aux 3: TC Helicon Quintet harmonizer. Mono in stereo out. I was in the market for an H3500 and happened to find this on the clearance shelf of a GC for $100.00. I'd say it's 90% of the Eventide, at 5% of the price. Returns to stereo 2.

Aux 4 fed to Matrix 1: D2 1 Mono in stereo out. There is a Boss FS5U guitar pedal on the ground to tap this one by foot. BRV and instrument delays, fed from the matrix so that I can also use it for any oddball tricks I may want to do with larger sections of the mix. Returns to stereo 3.

Aux 5: D2 2. Mono in stereo out. The green and orange box on the console is a modded FS5U that I can finger tap. Primarily for lead vox. Returns to mono 25 and 26.

Aux 6 M2000 1. Mono in stereo out. BRVs and instrument reverbs. Returns to mono 27 and 28.

Aux 7/8: M2000 2. 2 mono units, but I'll sometime go with 1 stereo depending on what I want to accomplish. The 1st channel is for snare and the 2nd channel is the rest of the kit and other percussion. Returns to mono 29 and 30.

Aux 9/10: M3000.  Stereo reverb for lead vox. Returns to mono 31 and 32.

Quote:

I hear he's wanting to buy a 56 frame so he can use the extra channels for FX returns...

I was planning on buying a Spectra Ti 56 and selling the 48 so that I have full use of 48 mono channels, but as things continue to grow I'm now planning on the 24 channel expander to use only as needed.

Oh yeah, the Mixswitch rocks!
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Steve Payne on July 29, 2008, 11:27:37 am
Hi Thomas!
 We've got a MixSwitch racked up in the main drive rack.  It is a really cool piece.  As far as accidentally turning off the PA, I think it is more likely to happen by accidentally hitting the power switch on the racks power conditioner.  
Haven't done that yet Smile.  The switch and mute functions on the MixSwitch require a very deliberate sustained touch before they engage.  
Hope you are busy and well!
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: ThomasDameron on July 29, 2008, 02:02:26 pm
Thanks for the reply Chuck.  I knew that the remote was not a production item yet.  However, I didn't realize that it never will be and was just another of JP's mad scientist inventions.  I know the M.S.  has a lot more tricks up it's sleeve and a remote can help to bring those out.  I stand by what I said that it's not a good idea to keep the remote sitting around, or even connected, for a festival style console switcher.  However, it's no fault of APB's to have optional features that don't fit every scenario.

The change over requiring a press-and-hold is good news to me and I think that it's an acceptable substitute to a lock out switch.  I can see how having a lock out would be a PITA for some scenarios.  Knowing you guys, you probably thought of the idea and dismissed it for a better reason than I can come up with.

Keep it up APB.
thomas d.

PS- Hey Steve, where's your review of the Flex Array?  Sorry I couldn't make it out.  Jason invited me, but I was busy.
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Ron Schroeyens on August 11, 2008, 06:41:22 pm
We just took one out on a 6 day festival and after the first day it went back in the box.
We had L,R, Subs, Side Fills and In Fills
Title: Re: APB Dynasonics MixSwitch
Post by: Mac Kerr on August 11, 2008, 06:46:03 pm
Ron Schroeyens wrote on Mon, 11 August 2008 18:41

We just took one out on a 6 day festival and after the first day it went back in the box.
We had L,R, Subs, Side Fills and In Fills
What are you trying to say? That you didn't know what you needed before you left the shop?

Mac