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 on: Yesterday at 11:02:35 pm 
Started by Ital-Rolando - Last post by brian maddox
Very loud..and then suddenly quieter  ;)

 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

 on: Yesterday at 09:39:33 pm 
Started by Kevin_Tisdall - Last post by Jeff Lelko
Scott - yes it adds up for quality gear.  I have not yet figured how I'll transport these.  So some sort of cases loom in the future.

Yep.  As has been said many times, every time you want to jump up a "level" of game be it in sound, lights, or another service it's more or less a doubling of your investment to date, having to make that investment at once.  I also stand by my statements that we're very lucky as an industry to have so many options available to us, even at the very low investment level.  Not only does it offer more people an opportunity to learn the art, but enables small operators to do things that were financially and logistically unfeasible even a decade ago.  That said, there comes a point that cheap is great until it's not.  Controllers that have limited functions and output, moving lights that don't dim well or match in color...  There comes the point that you need to pay a professional price for a professional product with professional features.  Tupperware bins and orange extension cords are a common sight in the bar band scene, but something you'll (almost) never see at the pro level.  Hatchbacks and SUVs become trucks and commercial trailers...  Fun stuff for sure, but I'd wager my investments thus far in things like cords/cables, cable ramps, truss, cases, adapters, clamps, and all the other logistical "stuff" you need to make a show go on would outweigh my investments in shiny speakers and moving lights.  Best of luck with the project though! 

 on: Yesterday at 09:36:28 pm 
Started by Danny Reid - Last post by frank kayser
Probably worth noting that documenting your intent to use illegal gear on the internet probably won’t help your lawyer when their lawyer shows up... 

If replacing 600 MHz gear isn’t financially an option, it may be time to have a hard look at those business finances... are you charging enough for your services?  Are you setting aside funds for asset replacement

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In the real business world, no doubt you're absolutely on target

Speaking as a Lounger and for most intents and purposes, a hobbyist, my business model is admittedly broken, and those normal, proper business concerns, like asset replacement, are not (but should be) on my radar.  Having hardware "obsoleted" hurts, hurts hard, but we just have to suck it up, regardless of our (non)functioning business model.  As Dave said, sell when you smell trouble.   

I love the wiz-bang tech, the challenge of the show, and the folks who appreciate my work. My business model?  Not so broken that a four-year degree in business, minor in accounting, and 20 years of therapy couldn't fix.

 on: Yesterday at 08:02:21 pm 
Started by Jonathan Barrett - Last post by Len Zenith Jr
Trying to stay on topic, I'm assuming at this point that the DBX 360 needs a lot of human intervention in order to pull out EQ adjustments that were maybe incorrectly suggested, 50hz bumps because of poorly placed subs, timing issues etc, etc..

My experience with the Venue 360 auto eq is that it does a pretty good job from 200 Hz and up with an overemphasis on high end as was previously mentioned. I usually use (as mentioned already) the "reflective room" setting to mitigate that and then usually need to place a high shelf band starting around 3.5k - 20k with about a -6 dB cut gradually from 3.5k to 20k. Below 200 hz you are on your own. I believe indoors in a small to medium room with the longer wavelengths and reflections in the bass region even smaart rigs offer questionable measurements down low. After the eq is done I also inspect what the professor has done and will seriously question high Q massive boosts. Using my ears I will enable/disable those boosts while listening  to see if they are necessary or are just an attempt to boost a null in the room. If not needed they get tossed as that is just making a bigger argument and cause all sorts of problems (less amp headroom, driver heating, feedback, etc). Overall the venue 360 auto EQ with the sine sweeps is a massive improvement over the old pink noise solution of old. It is actually usable.

 on: Yesterday at 07:59:45 pm 
Started by dave briar - Last post by dave briar
Hide or not hide SSID. Web search will find several reason why and why not to. I'm on the side not to.

This article is a couple of years old, but worth the read.
Yes, but to a different point I believe. The article as I read it focuses on whether hiding the SSID increases security or not. What appears to be more relevant here is whether hiding the SSID reduces the number of scans it will encounter by other devices or not.  I remember reading (probably in this forum?) the contention that hiding the SSID will actually increase the workload due to other devices repeatedly “trying harder” to identify a source that won’t identify itself.  Either way, I’ve left mine exposed.

 on: Yesterday at 07:54:59 pm 
Started by Patrick Cognitore - Last post by Paul G. OBrien
Here are a couple more pics of the space.

This is from the back of the stage during a performance of the Cleverlys earlier this month. Whatever audio production was provided for that show is not being provided for ours (but AFAIK, the lights are permanent).

See that pic makes it look like the band is right under the bridge/overpass/roadway whereas the previous pics make that structure appear to be far off in the background. That changes things, setup the band in the typical space at top of the stairs but still try to use the different speakers systems to cover different crowd zones because they won't interact nicely at all.

 on: Yesterday at 07:43:25 pm 
Started by dave briar - Last post by dave briar
The problem is often not only with the signal strenght, but also with the processing power of the AP's and the way clients and AP's can receive and send packets. Wifi is NOT a duplex protocol.

If your SSID is visible EVERY phone in the room tries to connect to your AP, and will keep trying until it finds a network that accepts it. So while you are trying to mix, your AP is handling all the denies to the phones, which all cost packet slots. When the SSID is hidden the phones still probe the ether on all channels regularly to find wifi networks.

It's the ultimate legitimate DDOS attack.
Point well taken.  To that end, turning off your 2.4 GHz radio should more than double the capacity of your router/AP to handle the scans of large(r) crowds —yes?  Fair enough.  By the way I am by no means disagreeing with you, Tim, and many others here that trusting wireless for large “cannot fail” events is a fools errand. I defer totally there.

That said, wireless works very reliably for me and many others day-in-and-day-out doing events of many hundreds and understanding just how maximize the robustness of my system was the impetus of my original questions.  Maybe in retrospect I could have stated my question more generically as “Given most advancements in prosumer wireless products seem to be aimed at increasing bandwidth/throughput, do those same advancements do anything to increase the reliability of the connection between my AP and the tablet in my hands”?  Thanks for your input.

 on: Yesterday at 07:23:15 pm 
Started by Gary Fitzpatrick - Last post by Erik Jerde
Thanks everyone for the replies. I thought from my own research that they were LC multiplex connectors.
There is a spare fibre pair using the same connectors that I want to use for a live video stream but the CCTV company don't want their system online. Thanks again

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In case it comes up again, most video (SDI at least) uses single mode fiber.  There are converters out there but they are rare.  Getting your head around the different fiber types out there can be tricky at first but it’s important.

 on: Yesterday at 06:51:42 pm 
Started by Gian Luca Cavalliini - Last post by Gian Luca Cavalliini
Signal Hound is faster and more powerful than a TTi, but it is not as portable. You are tied to a laptop where the TTi lets you walk the venue or room to room in a multi room situation. If being tied down is not an issue there are also dedicated hardware products like the Siglent SSA3000 series in about the same price range. It is a true spectrum analyzer not a scanner, and is very fast, includes a tracking generator and easy to use. It can also include a return loss bridge for analyzing antennas and cables.


A laptop with little USB box could be ok for me, not so easy but I can move (no need external power and... well, I have good velcro! (Not so different from Kaltman RFVue...). Anyway, Siglent SSA3000 is new for me, really interesting, thanx so much!

 on: Yesterday at 06:49:06 pm 
Started by Jonathan Hiemberg - Last post by Luke Geis
^^^^^^ Yes very true and I should have clarified that it was 360* behind at a specific frequency. The point being that forward coupling is bad and diminishes quality. The only reason this may work at all is that there is a 2:1 ratio of forward facing to rear facing subs ( in most cases ). Because the forward facing subs have perhaps more than double the potential forward energy, the rear-facing subs forward energy is not as potentially destructive.

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