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Title: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Minka Matikainen on January 05, 2008, 03:07:22 pm
Hi all,

I tried to make a search on this subject also, because I know this has been handled at least in multiple different topics, but I still would like to hear your opinions on some DI's.

My idea is to use following setup, if you do not have any better ideas for me.

- For acoustic guitar Radial ProDI or Pro48. Which one do YOU recommend based on YOUR experience(I would like to use Countryman Type 85, but it is a bit too expensive)
I've been also thinking about the AR133, but I've HEARD that Radial boxes might sound better on piezo miked acoustic guitars...

- For bass, the same as above OR BSS AR133
(I do have some UltraDI's which do sound good, but as mentioned in other topic(s) these Behringers tend to have issues with interference, especially when placed near tube amps.)

- For keyboards Radial ProDI (x2) BSS AR133 (x2) or Radial ProD2

- For PC's, HD's etc. Radial ProAV2

I'm open for any suggestions, but it seems that Radial has the cheapest price vs. quality ratio to offer.

I know people are keen on BSS boxes also and that Countryman's are the top ones for many people, but I'm really looking to get a solid, robust, good sounding and simple system and a selection of DI boxes, which would be as simple and versatile as possible.

If a Radial ProDI is the one that does all I need without major losses in sound quality, I will go for 6 to 8 pcs of those...

Br,
-Minka-
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Kemper Watson on January 05, 2008, 03:21:42 pm
For acoustic guitars the J48 is almost unbeatable..
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Travis Watson on January 05, 2008, 04:10:53 pm
+1
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Adam Robinson on January 05, 2008, 07:03:14 pm
The J48 is a great box... I have a couple AR-133s in my toolkit.  They tend to do a good job on everything although they might not be the best option for certain applications.  I just know I can rely on them.


Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Matthew Moser on January 05, 2008, 08:54:25 pm
Minka,

I've always been a fan of the Radial JDI and Countryman but if you looking for something a bit more reasonably priced, My vote would be for Radial PRO-DI for guitars, keyboards, and Bass. I used one at at a gig last night for both bass and acoustic guitars and it worked and sounded great, Their a tough little box.

~Matt
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Peter Dakin on January 06, 2008, 08:12:58 am
I like the klark technik ones. Nice rubber cover so they never move about and are nice and rugged. Sound really clean too. Plus they look quite funky! Laughing
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Tim Padrick on January 06, 2008, 12:41:30 pm
Always use an active DI on any device that does not have an active output.  For cost vs performance I like the Radial Pro48.
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Ryan McLeod on January 06, 2008, 01:02:59 pm
+1 for a the Radial Stuff - I've found the Pro48, ProDI and ProD2 are excellent all around good DI's.

"Critical" applications get JDV or JDI's.
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on January 06, 2008, 01:42:24 pm
Any of the DI boxes you mentioned will get the job done just fine. I bought some J48 DI's for Christmas, and they rawk. Except when you get a really really hot signal into them. Then you get a wonderful clipping sound. Im picking up a JDI just for those jobs...






Evan
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Jon Smith on January 06, 2008, 02:15:20 pm
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Sun, 06 January 2008 11:42

Any of the DI boxes you mentioned will get the job done just fine. I bought some J48 DI's for Christmas, and they rawk. Except when you get a really really hot signal into them. Then you get a wonderful clipping sound. Im picking up a JDI just for those jobs...






Evan

Evan,

For those really hot signals, there is a -15db pad on the J48 that has solved that problem for me. (I am sure you already knew this) in most cases.

By-the-by... glad to hear you are having a good time on your tour.

Jon
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Brad Ferguson on January 06, 2008, 02:43:59 pm
Radial's pro line is great for keys, and bass guitars.

JDI's or J48s are both great for acoustic instruments, and since they're the same price go with the J48
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Dave Rickard on January 06, 2008, 05:34:45 pm
I've been happy with the Pro48 in many roles.
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Minka Matikainen on January 07, 2008, 03:57:02 am
Thank you guys for the opinions!

According to the answers I'm going with Radial. I'm going to get some Pro48's and some Pro-DI's.

Although there might be some cheaper models / brands also, I think, according to your feedback and my own researches, Radial will give me the best ROI.

-Minka-
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Kevin Ballard on January 07, 2008, 09:11:58 am
Not to devalue the Radial stuff, and an active passive selection of thier stuff is a great package for sure. If you're meeting riders, it never hurts to have one BSS, countryman or some such as an alternative or where the foibles play a part  Rolling Eyes.  Also keep the cheap DI 100's for the festival when a student band turn up with 3 keys player who all need stereo on each of two keyboards (and then dont use one set anyway) as well as bass, acoustic, fiddle and mandolin.

Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Minka Matikainen on January 07, 2008, 02:14:12 pm
Kevin,

Good point about meeting riders. Maybe I buy 1 or 2 BSS and 1 Countryman (although I have to wait for a while to get the Countryman bought).

What comes to DI 100's, they are perfect little boxes for the situations you described. And that is the way I'm gonna keep them also.

They are also a good ones to put with the gear if someone wants to rent something. Very Happy

-Minka-
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Tim Padrick on January 13, 2008, 08:20:46 pm
On my Pro48s, I pulled the pad buttons off and pushed the switches with a pen, so they cannot get switched off accidentally.  They are indeed HOT.
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Bill Wood on January 13, 2008, 08:53:27 pm
I agree on the Radial Pro-DI and Pro-48 you can't beat them for the price. Tim had a great Idea for the switches, Give them a button and they WILL push it.

The best price I have found on them is CTS-Road dog online, Call them for better prices
Title: Re: Opinions on DI boxes
Post by: Minka Matikainen on January 14, 2008, 06:29:27 am
I think I'm going for the Radial's  Very Happy .

I will check CTS-Road dog, but I have a little cold feeling in my butt that they are not willing to sell overseas, although anything I could buy from USA is cheap for me at the moment because of the currency.

Thanks for the feedback, and good tips (especially you Tim, I've never even thought about pulling the buttons off, sounds like a great idea Cool )

Br,
-Minka-