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Title: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on October 25, 2007, 10:57:05 pm
Show-off!!! Post some pix,i need ideas!(Front and Back)
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on October 25, 2007, 10:59:21 pm
Since I just finished up my new mains rack:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/IMG_1785.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/IMG_1786.jpg





Evan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on October 25, 2007, 11:56:15 pm
Nice job!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Bennett Prescott on October 26, 2007, 12:11:27 am
Here's mine:

(sorry, I couldn't resist)
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Brian Bolly on October 26, 2007, 12:59:19 am
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Thu, 25 October 2007 22:59


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/IMG_1786.jpg



Quoth Dave Lowum:  "Those breakers are gonna trip faster than the town drunk."


Time to get thee a RacPac.  And a deeper rack.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on October 26, 2007, 01:12:05 am
This is fun!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on October 26, 2007, 12:14:08 pm
Evan,

Too cheap to put two more screws in the upper front blank panel?

Here's mine, front (rear to follow). The band logo plate replaced a DRPA moved to FOH. And the logo plate is currently replace by a dbx223XL crossover (spare/aux fed subs). DRPA will return to amp rack when upped to 10RU and FOH upped to 12RU from the current 10RU.
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on October 26, 2007, 12:18:34 pm
Mike McNany wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 12:14

Evan,

Too cheap to put two more screws in the upper front blank panel?



Of course not. Its just a temporary place holder until I put a new toy in there. Smile

Im hoping to have it in soon...






Evan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on October 26, 2007, 12:23:08 pm
Amp rack rear. Had to add a 5th input for subs when I moved the DRPA to FOH. DRPA to return to amp rack soon, along with the dbx223Xl crossover I have as a spare and for future Aux Fed Subs.I picked up several short IEC large gauge AC cables from www.stayonline.com to clean up rack AC routing. Hard to see the labeling above the I/O panel from the glare.  Two of the speakons route both top and sub signals on their 4 contacts. index.php/fa/11983/0/

Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: David C Nickerson on October 26, 2007, 01:04:13 pm
Cool, looks just like mine.  

Took me a minute...


Bennett Prescott wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 00:11

Here's mine:

(sorry, I couldn't resist)

Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Brian Bolly on October 26, 2007, 02:22:04 pm
The DSP is only in for testing/shop purposes, but the amp compliment is:

3x Crown MA3600VZ
1x QSC PL 9.0 PFC

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Ned Cullen on October 26, 2007, 03:00:24 pm
What speaker wire do you guys use for the binding posts to rack panel?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on October 26, 2007, 03:12:22 pm
I use Proco Powerplus 12-2(very flexible) Stripped 1/2" and tinned w/ soilder under the posts. Micky
PS: QSC's don't like spade connectors! not a good contact...
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jamin Lynch on October 26, 2007, 03:17:52 pm
Uhhhh...what if I have all self powered cabs? Confused
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Brian Bolly on October 26, 2007, 03:41:02 pm
Ned Cullen wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 15:00

What speaker wire do you guys use for the binding posts to rack panel?


Generally West Penn 227 (12 AWG 2C)
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Dan Brandesky on October 26, 2007, 03:50:56 pm
Apparently Brian likes headroom... Shocked

-Dan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Ned Cullen on October 26, 2007, 03:57:47 pm
Best place to get it? (speaker wire that is).
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on October 26, 2007, 04:10:29 pm
Wire: www.partsexpress.com
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jason Dermer on October 26, 2007, 04:39:36 pm
My new amp racks will look exactly the same as Bennett's. Smile
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Ned Cullen on October 26, 2007, 04:48:18 pm
Mike-

I didn't see the Proco wire there.  Actually didn't see any 12-2 under pro sound speaker wire.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on October 26, 2007, 04:58:30 pm
If you all wish to have a good laugh-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/avkid/100_2435.jpg
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on October 26, 2007, 04:59:04 pm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/avkid/100_2438.jpg
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on October 26, 2007, 05:12:03 pm
Proco is pretty common,do a Google and there will be plenty of retailers. Sometimes on Ebay
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tom Manchester on October 26, 2007, 06:42:58 pm
A system amp racks and distro (and a few artist supplied wireless systems)

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I have since added another 6 space EWI rack and 2 more XS1200's for a 4 mix monitor rack.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS on October 26, 2007, 10:45:38 pm
Here is the front....No recent pictures of the backs for you though, sorry!
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Derek Shawver on October 27, 2007, 12:42:48 am
Jamin Lynch wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 14:17

Uhhhh...what if I have all self powered cabs? Confused

then you won't need an amp rack......just a crossover
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on October 27, 2007, 01:21:05 am
"Self Powered" = HEAVY,EXPENSIVE,CABLE HUNGRY,and FRAGILE!(and don't like moisture outside of road cases!!!Another expensive investment!!! hehehe Twisted Evil
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on October 27, 2007, 01:50:15 am

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Les
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on October 27, 2007, 02:04:14 am

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Les
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Alfred_Mapanao on October 27, 2007, 02:38:56 am
Am I the only one that thinks the rear of an amp rack is much more sexier?
Very Happy
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Alfred_Mapanao on October 27, 2007, 02:40:50 am
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on October 27, 2007, 04:13:05 am
Alfred Mapanao wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 07:38

Am I the only one that thinks the rear of an amp rack is much more sexier?


Nope.


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Les
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Drew Curtis on October 27, 2007, 04:38:24 am
Top amp is spare, never a bad idea...

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Derek Shawver on October 27, 2007, 08:28:54 am
Micky Basiliere wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 00:21

"Self Powered" = HEAVY,EXPENSIVE,CABLE HUNGRY,and FRAGILE!(and don't like moisture outside of road cases!!!Another expensive investment!!! hehehe Twisted Evil

agreed
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS on October 27, 2007, 08:47:58 am
Alfred Mapanao wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 23:38

Am I the only one that thinks the rear of an amp rack is much more sexier?
Very Happy
index.php/fa/11997/0/



Where I work we call that a Thermal Shutdown!  

Sexy.....Maybe
Efficient cooling in 110 degree weather....Not even close!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Bennett Prescott on October 27, 2007, 12:14:30 pm
Micky Basiliere wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 01:21

"Self Powered" = HEAVY,EXPENSIVE,CABLE HUNGRY,and FRAGILE!(and don't like moisture outside of road cases!!!Another expensive investment!!! hehehe Twisted Evil

It's fine if you don't like self-powered, some people don't, I don't know why, and I don't really care (if plugging two connections into one speaker is really that much of a big deal for you, I suggest therapy). However, I believe a quick look at the marketplace will make it obvious that you're spreading short-sighted misinformation based on (perhaps) a woefully inadequate survey of currently available options.

Now, obviously, I work for a powered speaker manufacturer, but I like to think I'm a pretty down to earth guy and if these products were a scam to take your money and make you buy different cabling I'm sure a few people would have caught on by now. Considering some of the best regarded speakers in the industry are self powered, I'm pretty sure someone's looking at the big picture when they do their purchasing.

If you would prefer to debate with me point by point, I welcome it, but please start another thread, and I suggest doing some basic research to get your facts straight beforehand.

P.S. As for "don't like moisture", I don't think it's necessary to re-post the photo from a show I did with Jason a few months ago where I left two full powered line array hangs plus subs, fills, and 6 monitor mixes up in typhoon-like conditions (on land), and after the rain had subsided several hours later flipped the main power back on and ran the show.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on October 27, 2007, 12:20:14 pm
Bennett Prescott wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 12:14


P.S. As for "don't like moisture", I don't think it's necessary to re-post the photo from a show I did with Jason a few months ago where I left two full powered line array hangs plus subs, fills, and 6 monitor mixes up in typhoon-like conditions (on land), and after the rain had subsided several hours later flipped the main power back on and ran the show.

To add to that, I had a tent flap full of rain water cave in right on top of an ATA 118.
I pulled the power, flipped it over and wiped it with a towel.
Five minutes and a move later we were good to go.

Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Whit Hutchinson on October 27, 2007, 12:44:35 pm
Lester Moran wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 06:50


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Les


Les,

Please do tell.  What in the hell is a MicroTech 600 LX?   And how does it differ from the Microtech 600 with the controls in the rear and few indicators?

I am not at all familiar  with this amp.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tom Manchester on October 27, 2007, 12:59:27 pm
IIRC the Microtech 600lx was the predecessor to the modern microtech 600. It had the looks of a macrotech but the controls were on the front instead of the back.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on October 27, 2007, 01:11:25 pm
Tom Manchester wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 17:59

IIRC the Microtech 600lx was the predecessor to the modern microtech 600. It had the looks of a macrotech but the controls were on the front instead of the back.


...Not exactly.  When the MA/MT line came out, there was a Microtech that was configured as you still know it, (different front, knobs on back), AND the "Microtech LX", which was the original name of what you know now as the "Macrotech" family.  I was told Crown decided to change the "LX" portion of the line's name to "Macrotech" to reduce confusion caused by the similarity of the original names.

I bought that amp new.  I think in the mid to late eighties.

Les  
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on October 27, 2007, 01:30:58 pm
Bennett, This "thread" About Powered Speakers Was just a "funny" in response to your "here's Mine" thread(when you posted no picture),being funny because you use powered speakers.
    I think your being alittle defensive here??? I just pointed out a couple of "posssible drawbacks" And this is just my opinion!
Not facts at all,so guess i did nothing wrong here. I'm just trying to get some ideas for my new Amp rig,and it's nice to see other peoples creations... Micky Confused
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Smith on October 27, 2007, 01:41:19 pm
Not mine... but definately one of my favorites!  The rest of the amps are on the other side of the stage...  Very Happy

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jason Dermer on October 27, 2007, 02:01:59 pm
Wrong answer. Thank you, please play again.

Weather:
http://livesound.ca.newsmemory.com/ee/livesound/default_ezin e.php?token=jXWFXmAcjgCLQ0JflBWHrXBrX2

Cabling:
http://www.linkitaly.com:8080/public/jsp/frameset.jsp

Power:
No more or less power is needed than a properly powered system with racks of amplification.

Expensive:
Right in line with what you would pay for the combination of unpowered boxes, processing, amps, and racks.

Fragile:
Again, no more so than their unpowered counterparts.

Can you please elaborate on where your feelings on powered systems comes from?


There are real pluses and minuses to powered and unpowered boxes, and an hour with the "search" function should bring you to plenty of good debate from both camps. In the end, use whichever suits your client's and your own needs the best, but please do not make uninformed blanket statements about an entire realm of SR equipment that you likely have not had much experience with.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tony "T" Tissot on October 27, 2007, 02:04:08 pm
Micky Basiliere wrote on Fri, 26 October 2007 22:21

"Self Powered" = HEAVY,EXPENSIVE,CABLE HUNGRY,and FRAGILE!(and don't like moisture outside of road cases!!!Another expensive investment!!! hehehe Twisted Evil


1. Not heavy. Maybe 10% more than passive. Huge weight reduction by virtue of losing speaker amp racks. I also gained lots of footprint in the trailer as well.
2. Not more expensive.  Expensive - sure - Like any pro-audio gear.
3. Cable hungry. Actually less cable weight. An XLR and a 12/3, instead of 14/8.
4. Not at all fragile. Not susceptible to moisture problems. But they do get covered in the rain - same as conventional speakers.

My ISP self-powered rig has proven to be a very useful investment.

Self-powered works very well in my situation, where limited setup time, and suspect power is the norm.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Bruce Gering on October 27, 2007, 02:54:16 pm
I know they're not yours, but why are the AC cords in a coil instead of figure 8?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on October 27, 2007, 03:12:29 pm
Bruce Gering wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 19:54

...why are the AC cords in a coil instead of figure 8?



...so people on PSW could get all pissy with each other arguing about which is better?

Very Happy


Les


edit:  added smilie-face so the easily offended would know I am not being personally critical, but rather full of good-natured humor...


Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Hasse Queisser on October 27, 2007, 04:29:55 pm
I like the look of that too  Razz . I don't have as many of them (yet), but the three racks like the one in the pics below are more than enough for me right now. 70kW of PowerLights gets you a long way  Very Happy

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Hasse Queisser on October 27, 2007, 04:31:17 pm
Backside.
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Shane Presley on October 27, 2007, 06:08:50 pm
My amps are always in transition... I have 4 x 3402's on the way, probably to change out the AP6020's.... Take a peek...index.php/fa/12012/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Shane Presley on October 27, 2007, 06:10:03 pm
Rear view of the BSS Productions racks....index.php/fa/12013/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: E. Lee Dickinson on October 27, 2007, 06:17:15 pm
I'm with Tom on the XS series.
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Hey. Can someone tell me what on earth I need (aside from rear rails) to make the 90 degree turn for the back rack ears? I know a lot of other people use 2x4s.. but I plan to put in rear rails anyway.
Title: Front - Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Dan Brown on October 27, 2007, 07:03:22 pm
Front

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db

[edit - new pic]
Title: Back - Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Dan Brown on October 27, 2007, 07:07:34 pm
Back

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db

[Edit - new pic]
Title: Re: Back - Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Bill McKenna on October 27, 2007, 08:49:53 pm
   These are my monitor racks!
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jon Smith on October 27, 2007, 10:25:01 pm
E. Lee Dickinson wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 16:17

I'm with Tom on the XS series.

Hey. Can someone tell me what on earth I need (aside from rear rails) to make the 90 degree turn for the back rack ears? I know a lot of other people use 2x4s.. but I plan to put in rear rails anyway.


Lee,

Here is a link to what I used. It is a Mid-Atlantic product.

http://www.performanceaudio.com/cgi/product_view.cgi?product s_id=2372

They have 3 sizes. I agree on the XS also. I will post a picture.

Jon
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Whit Hutchinson on October 28, 2007, 01:53:56 am
Call me old school but is it fair to put the EV CP class in direct competition with the MA Crown line?  They seem to be VERY similar.  

Also, I hate every one of you guys with the big Camco banks and PL banks Smile  


Some people can afford to push major SPLs with moderate current draw.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Brad Gibson on October 28, 2007, 11:12:21 am
Here is one of my FOH racks.

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Hibbard on October 28, 2007, 12:48:18 pm
(6) PLX2502's powering Unity rig.  If I have time to photograph the other amp racks (mostly RMX's I'll post later).

ScottH

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Anton Stjernbrant on October 29, 2007, 04:56:57 am
http://star-audio.se/amp02.jpg

/ Anton
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Alex Marine on October 29, 2007, 06:12:31 am
E. Lee Dickinson wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 15:17


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Is that a wireless router I see in your rack? Is that how you are controlling your 260s? If so how does that work?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: dave stojan on October 29, 2007, 08:09:50 am
At last - a proper drum fill rack  Laughing
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: E. Lee Dickinson on October 29, 2007, 08:21:17 am
Alex, see this thread:

http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/27308/0/0/1 7386/

I am using a combination of the router and some ethernet-serial device servers from Sena - The LS100 and LS100w.

More details in the other thread but, in short, it works well for adjustments, but not very well for configuration.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: The Guy on October 29, 2007, 08:45:42 am
Flame suit on...time for the Improper Cooling argument!  Here are 2 of my 4 FOH racks.  I've never had a problem with cooling, even driving the living hell out of it.

-JB

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: John Weston on October 29, 2007, 09:32:50 am
what kinda rig do those two amp racks power?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Smith on October 29, 2007, 10:38:43 am
Jim Bowersox wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 08:45

Flame suit on...time for the Improper Cooling argument!  Here are 2 of my 4 FOH racks.  I've never had a problem with cooling, even driving the living hell out of it.

Oh yes...breaking all the PSW rules!  ...and getting away with it!   Very Happy
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on October 29, 2007, 12:11:00 pm
John Weston wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 09:32

what kinda rig do those two amp racks power?


Lots of blue boxes:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/turbos.jpg

(Turbo 21's and flashlights)
Sometimes floodlights and LAB subs as well.


Jim likes lots of power. Twisted Evil





Evan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Bennett Prescott on October 29, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
Jim Bowersox wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 08:45

I've never had a problem with cooling, even driving the living hell out of it.

Jim,

We all know the audience wouldn't be loving that in Arizona.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rob Spence on October 29, 2007, 12:23:31 pm
But Jim, the PL6.0 blows cool air out the front Smile And the hot air from the Crown's rises out the rear.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on October 29, 2007, 12:50:23 pm
Rob Spence wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 12:23

But Jim, the PL6.0 blows cool air out the front Smile And the hot air from the Crown's rises out the rear.



6.0?!  Shocked

Rob,
Im sure you meant PL9.0. Razz

Jim dont use no stinkin' PL6.0's. Laughing





Evan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on October 29, 2007, 01:13:03 pm
Curious question from someone who hasn't used these kind of big rigs.  Why are all the distros/power inputs on the front of the racks?  I would think you would put them on the back (or at least the same side as you have your I/O connectors) to keep the cabling behind the rack.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Donnie Evans on October 29, 2007, 01:24:00 pm
I don't know the answer because I don't have experience with large racks either, but my common sense answer would be: "because this puts the edison/tt-30 outlets on the back with your power cords."  Is this right?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Whit Hutchinson on October 29, 2007, 10:12:13 pm
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 16:11

John Weston wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 09:32

what kinda rig do those two amp racks power?


Lots of blue boxes:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/turbos.jpg

Jim likes lots of power. Twisted Evil





Evan



How is that rig pictured powered?   All subs LR Mono on the PL 9.0 and each Flashlight on one of the 3,600s bridged?  
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rob Spence on October 29, 2007, 10:14:54 pm
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 12:50

Rob Spence wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 12:23

But Jim, the PL6.0 blows cool air out the front Smile And the hot air from the Crown's rises out the rear.



6.0?!  Shocked

Rob,
Im sure you meant PL9.0. Razz

Jim dont use no stinkin' PL6.0's. Laughing
Evan

Aw, I got the 9 upside down  Embarassed
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on October 29, 2007, 10:19:01 pm
Whit Hutchinson wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 22:12

Evan Kirkendall wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 16:11

John Weston wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 09:32

what kinda rig do those two amp racks power?


Lots of blue boxes:

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Jim likes lots of power. Twisted Evil





Evan



How is that rig pictured powered?   All subs LR Mono on the PL 9.0 and each Flashlight on one of the 3,600s bridged?  


3 subs per side of the 9.0
MA3600 stereo on the highs
MA3600 Stereo on the mids
MA3600 stereo on the lows

I believe in the shop he just had all 3 top boxes daisy chained together. Why he needs 4 mains racks, I have no idea. We were doing 120dbA in the shop with headroom to spare! Twisted Evil



Evan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Igor Mamuzic on October 29, 2007, 11:19:38 pm
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Razz
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on October 29, 2007, 11:28:01 pm
THX certified?

Hell of a home audio system!!!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on October 29, 2007, 11:43:48 pm
Love all the ideas! This is a cool thread!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on October 29, 2007, 11:49:30 pm
I'll have a bit more of a serious rack next week.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rico Santana on October 30, 2007, 12:21:36 am
You are my hero!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Brian Bolly on October 30, 2007, 10:21:29 am
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 22:19

Whit Hutchinson wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 22:12

Evan Kirkendall wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 16:11

John Weston wrote on Mon, 29 October 2007 09:32

what kinda rig do those two amp racks power?


Lots of blue boxes:

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Jim likes lots of power. Twisted Evil





Evan



How is that rig pictured powered?   All subs LR Mono on the PL 9.0 and each Flashlight on one of the 3,600s bridged?  


3 subs per side of the 9.0
MA3600 stereo on the highs
MA3600 Stereo on the mids
MA3600 stereo on the lows

I believe in the shop he just had all 3 top boxes daisy chained together. Why he needs 4 mains racks, I have no idea. We were doing 120dbA in the shop with headroom to spare! Twisted Evil



Evan


Correction...

Assuming one rack is running a small stereo rig:

MA3600 #1 - HF (L&R)
MA3600 #2 - Ch 1 Lo ; Ch 2 Mid (Left)
MA3600 #3 - Ch 1 Lo ; Ch 2 Mid (Right)
PL9.0 PFC - Sub (L&R)

Whit, a Flashlight is a triamp only box.  Each rack like that "can" do 8 tops and 8 subs, but when you're doing 12/16 or 16/16 per side, you need more amplifiers...

Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jon Pejtersen on October 30, 2007, 07:51:04 pm
My brand new 3-way amp/distro rack. 8-unit >extra deep (PSSO's are deep!!)

All "digital" PWM/SMPS amps. (PSSO are "budget" Powersoft copies)
>Can handle this baby all by myself if neccesary  Cool

PSSO DP3400 for subs(Dual-18's)
PSSO DP2400 for 15" Low mid section
PSSO DP1200 for 10"/1,4" mid/high section




Panels/vents/connections on the back. Used it for the first time this friday on an indoor highschool DJ-gig,
Speakers used at the gig were only a dual-18 sub and 3way (all horn!) topboxes per side.
Plenty of power (and headroom) for almost 500 people.


Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Daniel Nickleski on October 30, 2007, 07:51:05 pm
Here is a front view of our Mains and Monitor Racks. Mains on left Monitors on right. I will post some pics of the back when I get a chance.
Daniel
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tim Koskamp on October 30, 2007, 11:33:45 pm
Jon Pejtersen wrote on Tue, 30 October 2007 18:51

 ...All "digital" PWM/SMPS amps. (PSSO are "budget" Powersoft copies)...



fyi: Looks like the PSSO amps come from the same manufacturing line as the Face Audio class D amps:

http://www.faceaudio.com/product_list_4.html

Tim Koskamp
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Gabe Nahshon on October 30, 2007, 11:54:34 pm
Hello,
 I only have a backside picture in front of me.  On the top you see a 15 channel AMP G2 input and through and a four channel input panel that, on the inside, fans out to xlr tails to allow patching as is needed to the amp inputs.  On the bottom you see 3 tajimi connectors, containing 6 channels each.  So the patching is obviously very powerful.  In conclusion you see the 2 L14-30 cables for AC input.  

All of the full size amp racks are like this.  These happen to contain 4 crown 5002s each.

Cheers,

Gabeindex.php/fa/12074/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Derek Shawver on October 31, 2007, 07:04:34 am
Gabe Nahshon wrote on Tue, 30 October 2007 22:54



 These happen to contain 4 crown 5002s each.



index.php/fa/12074/0/

Yikes...Got Forklift? Shocked
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: John Halliburton on October 31, 2007, 01:55:09 pm
Yikes...Got Forklift? Shocked

On the other end of the spectrum, here are two of main amp racks,                              
with newly loaded PLX3602's.
index.php/fa/12078/0/

I figure I dropped 30lbs. from the pair by switching out the old Crowns.  My back is grateful.

Best regards,

John
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike Caldwell on October 31, 2007, 04:59:33 pm
Is that a Urie power amp still earning it's space in the amp rack!


Mike Caldwell
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Cris Lave on October 31, 2007, 08:18:20 pm
I keep my DR4800 at FOH.index.php/fa/12082/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: John Halliburton on October 31, 2007, 08:24:08 pm
"Is that a Urie power amp still earning it's space in the amp rack!
Mike Caldwell"

Yup. ;>)

And I use a vintage D75 on my headphones at FOH.  

John
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Anton Stjernbrant on October 31, 2007, 08:25:43 pm
Is that another occurrence of the infamous labgruppen/behringer combination?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Brian Wynn on November 01, 2007, 12:06:41 am
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Brian Wynn on November 01, 2007, 12:07:51 am
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike Caldwell on November 01, 2007, 12:32:27 am
Think of the return on investment for those amps!

Mike Caldwell




John Halliburton wrote on Wed, 31 October 2007 20:24

"Is that a Urie power amp still earning it's space in the amp rack!
Mike Caldwell"

Yup. ;>)

And I use a vintage D75 on my headphones at FOH.  

John

Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Cris Lave on November 01, 2007, 05:02:53 am
The Behringer crossover is the backup if the DSP fails.  However, I've never fired it up for my main rig!!  Believe it or not, the Behringer/Lab Gruppen combo didn't sound too bad!!




Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rick Byers on November 01, 2007, 07:03:32 am
Chris, is the Macrotech just there to ensure the amp rack has a low centre of gravity, so it doesn't tip over? Very Happy
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Cris Lave on November 01, 2007, 01:43:55 pm
Rick, you're too funny!! Smile   I will say the LG6400 sits comfortable on top of Crown.  
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: MartinGajta on November 01, 2007, 06:22:29 pm
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+CTS3000 for subs
7001 chA bass  chB bass
7001 chA highs chB mids
driverack260 (to divide certain frequencies to amplifier channels Very Happy )and limit and delay

I have 1 rack per side
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Walter on November 02, 2007, 09:28:37 am
Here's mine. not as nice as most, but it gets the job done for my rig. The B.. crossover has been replaced with a dbx since pictures have been taken.



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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jason Joseph on November 02, 2007, 09:35:08 am
Guess I will join in.. Still a work in progress of course..

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5050/cimg4134editqt0.jpg
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rob Spence on November 02, 2007, 10:53:13 am
Here is my "A" rig rack

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: John Halliburton on November 02, 2007, 11:02:47 am
John Halliburton wrote on Wed, 31 October 2007 12:55

Yikes...Got Forklift? Shocked

I figure I dropped 30lbs. from the pair by switching out the old Crowns.  My back is grateful.

Best regards,

John


And here's an update, the system out on the first gig with the new amps for a marathon fundraiser last Sunday-it's just a quick cell phone camera shot.  The room is an old gymnasium, almost square, and mostly plaster.  Loading requires schlepping gear up twenty steps, a nice touch.  There is an elevator being added currently, but it's not operational.

They paid attention when I mentioned years ago to build the stage solid, with carpet-they even covered the wall behind the stage.  The far wall is covered with cork sheeting for ten feet down from the ceiling, which looks nicer than what they thought it would do acoustically.  Good echo though, I want to do some homebrew diffusers in there eventually.

Anyway, I'm at the back wall, set up off stage right.  Since somebody will ask, the two top White eq's are monitors, and the two bottom ones are FOH-I also notched out a bit of 125hz in them later on.  At least I can walk out front easily.  I do wish the stage was deeper, another eight feet would be great.  
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Donnie Evans on November 02, 2007, 11:39:25 am
Rob Spence wrote on Fri, 02 November 2007 14:53

Here is my "A" rig rack

index.php/fa/12150/0/


Hey Rob what are those Powercon's on front of your RacPac feeding?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tom Manchester on November 02, 2007, 01:11:35 pm
John Halliburton wrote on Fri, 02 November 2007 11:02

Good echo though, I want to do some homebrew diffusers in there eventually.



Make sure you build them with fireproofed materials. I know in one of our auditoriums here at work when it got remodeled they added panels to the walls to help with the sound. Unfortunately the fire inspector came in and discovered that the fabric was flammable so they had to be torn down and redone.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rob Spence on November 02, 2007, 02:26:35 pm
Hey Donnie. One is feeding the top rack (Monitors) and other is feeding FOH (mix position).
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tim McCulloch on November 02, 2007, 05:06:20 pm
Here's one from last year..

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Includes obligatory FOH rack.

Have fun, good luck... oh, back pic follows...

Tim Mc
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tim McCulloch on November 02, 2007, 05:14:58 pm
Back of racks... we've done a better "neat & tidy" job inside since this was taken.

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The TDM crossovers are for the times when a rack is used "autonomously," like in a big distributed system where we use RF signal distribution, and the XLRFs on the back lead to the TDMs.  The CPCs on the front are input and throughs.  The TDMs aren't patched in normal use, but patching any TDM will drive the CPCs in an emergency...

The NL4/NL8 combo of connectors is to accomodate some legacy gear in our shop.

Big iron amps for our steam-powered speakers!!

Have fun, good luck.

Tim Mc
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rick Byers on November 03, 2007, 01:38:58 pm
Here we go, just reracked and first outing was last weekend.

The QSC rack is my main FOH, 3 way.  The Yamaha rack gives me 2 mixes of bi-amped mons and 2 mixes of fullrange.

I can carry each rack easily and pack size is small.  Nice! Very Happy

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rick Byers on November 03, 2007, 01:40:03 pm
And the Yammie rack..............

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Travis Watson on November 03, 2007, 02:01:52 pm
Guess I will post as well since this keeps going, index.php/fa/12175/0/
10,560 watts stereo seems to work quite well on my QW rig.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jamin Lynch on November 03, 2007, 03:12:11 pm
There's more on the other side. Gotta dust'em some day.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on November 03, 2007, 05:18:31 pm
Christmas came early this year!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/avkid/100_2449.jpg
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Nick Hickman on November 05, 2007, 09:21:54 am
To take this at a slight tangent, does anyone have photos or thoughts on how to tidily incorporate a network switch or, in particular, a wireless access point into an amp (or other) rack?  Do you remote the antenna(s) outside the rack?

Nick
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 05, 2007, 12:11:21 pm
Phil LaDue wrote on Sat, 03 November 2007 17:18

Christmas came early this year!


What, a new rack? I don't think it was the Peavey M3000  Laughing

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 05, 2007, 12:14:53 pm
Rick,

Love the simplicity, lightweight and matching look of your amp racks.

But, using those particular racks, I can't see much room to have a common power connection. Also, do you use any I/O panels or plug in/out direct to each amp?

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rick Byers on November 05, 2007, 01:37:39 pm
Mike, both have patch panels on the back.

The PLX rack as more space as the amps are not as deep as the Yamahas.

The PLX rack has XLR in 2 x NL8 out and a powercon.

The Yamaha rack has 4x Speakon out and Powercon in.  I am in the process of wiring up the XLR ins as well!! Bit of a tighter fit, but still managable.

Rick
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Sean Hayes on November 05, 2007, 02:20:43 pm
Rick,
Got any pics of the rear of your racks? They look great!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rick Byers on November 05, 2007, 05:20:00 pm
Sean Hayes wrote on Mon, 05 November 2007 19:20

Rick,
Got any pics of the rear of your racks? They look great!


I'll try and get some up tomrrow.  Small is beautiful though!! Very Happy
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: john turner on November 05, 2007, 07:15:34 pm
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I run a fully active system  Smile
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Deeter on November 05, 2007, 08:44:43 pm
john turner wrote on Mon, 05 November 2007 19:15


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I run a fully active system  Smile


OMG... Laughing , that's a good one.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on November 05, 2007, 09:00:45 pm
Mike McNany wrote on Mon, 05 November 2007 12:11

Phil LaDue wrote on Sat, 03 November 2007 17:18

Christmas came early this year!


What, a new rack? I don't think it was the Peavey M3000  Laughing

Mike McNany


The DriveRack PA and the eq's.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Rick Byers on November 06, 2007, 04:40:58 pm
Sean Hayes wrote on Mon, 05 November 2007 19:20

Rick,
Got any pics of the rear of your racks? They look great!


Sean, here you go (needs redoing as it's a bit untidy)............

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on November 06, 2007, 05:15:17 pm
Is it better to have the wires stuck directly into the binding posts?  Or to use banana plugs.  It would seem that direct connections would be better electrically, but banana plugs would let you quickly repatch things if an amp went out.

Seems like a mix here, slightly in favor of direct connections.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Terry Martin on November 07, 2007, 01:12:30 am
Here's my "run from stage" racks.  For sound jobs, I just use a GL2200 instead of the Mixwiz.

My, that's an ugly mess of cords to the left, huh?  I should have cropped that out!   Embarassed

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Terry
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jon Smith on November 07, 2007, 02:43:46 am
E. Lee Dickinson & Tom Manchester, I am with you both about the XS Series. Here are mine. Lee, I have included a close up of what I did on the rear rack with the brackets.

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Jon
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike Christy on November 07, 2007, 07:31:52 am
Terry Martin wrote on Wed, 07 November 2007 00:12

Here's my "run from stage" racks.  For sound jobs, I just use a GL2200 instead of the Mixwiz.

My, that's an ugly mess of cords to the left, huh?  I should have cropped that out!   Embarassed

Terry



My fav part of that photo is not the gear, but the "NO DRINKS!" sign.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Donnie Evans on November 07, 2007, 08:14:31 am
How long can this really go on.......again.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Ned Cullen on November 07, 2007, 09:21:49 am
Rick,

What are the plugs you are using on the QSC rack - the ones with the flat round plug end on the power strip.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Peter Etheredge on November 07, 2007, 09:33:04 am
Ned Cullen wrote on Wed, 07 November 2007 08:21

Rick,

What are the plugs you are using on the QSC rack - the ones with the flat round plug end on the power strip.



Those are UK plugs (seeing as he is in the UK).  My Soundcraft board came with some along with the standard US plugs.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Steve Hurt on November 07, 2007, 11:30:40 am
Donnie Evans wrote on Wed, 07 November 2007 08:14

How long can this really go on.......again.

Hell, just make it a sticky, it'll stay in one thread that way!

And it'll probably go to 1000 pages!  

You can't really blame people for posting their rigs.  
It's not like we're ashamed of having lots of power!
[tim-the-tool-man-noises-on]  oooh oooh oooooh ooooooo![/noises off]
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tom Manchester on November 07, 2007, 12:39:38 pm
Jon Smith wrote on Wed, 07 November 2007 02:43

E. Lee Dickinson & Tom Manchester, I am with you both about the XS Series. Here are mine. Lee, I have included a close up of what I did on the rear rack with the brackets.

Jon


I'm glad some people know "what's up" when it comes to amps  Razz

FED EX attempted to deliver my 6th and 7th XS series amps going in the new monitor mix rack last night but nobody was AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THE DOOR. We'll try again tonight and I'll get some pics up OF MY NEW AMP RACK.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on November 07, 2007, 12:57:43 pm
Tom Manchester wrote on Wed, 07 November 2007 17:39

...but my mom was in the shower. We'll try again tonight and I'll get some pics up.



Uh...

Very Happy.

Les
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tom Manchester on November 07, 2007, 01:14:31 pm
Sick Les. Now I have to go and edit my post
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Smith on November 07, 2007, 01:35:33 pm
I would have just said "no one was available to answer the door"... Cool
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on November 07, 2007, 01:54:03 pm
Or just change the name of the thread to "LETS SEE THOSE RACKS!"

Les
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Smith on November 07, 2007, 02:16:35 pm
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Deeter on November 07, 2007, 03:06:20 pm
Lester Moran wrote on Wed, 07 November 2007 13:54

Or just change the name of the thread to "LETS SEE THOSE RACKS!"

Les


Close, I'm sure you'll have some fun in this thread at times Razz

http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/23910/15533 3/945/#msg_155336
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Smith on November 07, 2007, 03:13:10 pm
Yeah...there is always someone out there with a BIGGER rack!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Alex Connell on November 07, 2007, 03:40:25 pm
I'm really enjoying this thread. I'm new to this, and been wanting to put together a legitimate rack with homemade breakout box and the works (instead of having to connect everything anew everytime I get to the venue), and it's really been helpful and I've gotten a lot of great ideas. Now if I can just find the rack itself for the price I'm willing to pay, I'm ready to get going on putting it all together.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Terry Martin on November 07, 2007, 05:55:13 pm
Haha!  I put that "masking tape" on their 2 years ago for a gig where my amp rack was remotely accessible by the punters.  ...it's stayed due to band member habits!

Terry

Mike Christy wrote on Wed, 07 November 2007 07:31

Terry Martin wrote on Wed, 07 November 2007 00:12

Here's my "run from stage" racks.  For sound jobs, I just use a GL2200 instead of the Mixwiz.

My, that's an ugly mess of cords to the left, huh?  I should have cropped that out!   Embarassed

Terry



My fav part of that photo is not the gear, but the "NO DRINKS!" sign.


Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tom Manchester on November 07, 2007, 11:13:44 pm
Ok just got the new amps put in. Here is a glamor shot of the new amp rack and a sideways picture of the i/o panel on the back. The processing rack sitting on top of the amp rack has a 4 channel snake that comes out of the EQ's and gets plugged into the amp rack i/o panel.

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EDIT: This is my new 4 mix monitor rig setup.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on November 07, 2007, 11:34:18 pm
I LICKIE RACKS!!!BIG RACKS!!!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jess Bruffett on November 08, 2007, 12:02:22 am
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its basic but it works...
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jess Bruffett on November 08, 2007, 12:02:57 am
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and there is the back...
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Josh Oswald on November 08, 2007, 08:47:17 am
Jess,

Let me guess from top to bottom...
Subs
Subs
Tops
Mons

Simple is good.  Razz

Josh
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jess Bruffett on November 08, 2007, 04:00:43 pm
exactly...
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on November 11, 2007, 11:25:44 pm
Just recently lightened things up.  Used to have 2 QSCMX1500's and two Mackie 1400's in one box.  Swaped all that for the 3 PLX's in the bottom rack to run the mains.  Kept one QSC for monitor duty in the top rack (we use IEMs so there are no monitors on stage).  The Stewart in the middle rack is just for sidefills in one club we play where we are spread across a corner and the mains are ahead of a lot of the dance floor.
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Matt Vivlamore on November 12, 2007, 02:44:45 am
I finally have a pic of my new amps and rack..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/wvuviv30/DSC00471.jpg
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 12, 2007, 01:42:52 pm
Steve,
What's with dragging 3 cases around when your top two would fit in one? If the Stewart needs air space you could always throw out the MEQ230  Very Happy

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 12, 2007, 01:44:16 pm
Matt Vivlamore wrote on Mon, 12 November 2007 02:44

I finally have a pic of my new amps and rack..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/wvuviv30/DSC00471.jpg


Not letting that Mackie amp in the "club", eh?  Shocked

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Matt Vivlamore on November 12, 2007, 03:31:53 pm
Mike McNany wrote on Mon, 12 November 2007 13:44

Matt Vivlamore wrote on Mon, 12 November 2007 02:44

I finally have a pic of my new amps and rack..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/wvuviv30/DSC00471.jpg


Not letting that Mackie amp in the "club", eh?  Shocked

Mike McNany




nah the mackie is a temp amp that I am borrowing from my club its better suited for the Behringer monitors.  
My PLs are for the Unity's.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on November 12, 2007, 05:08:13 pm
I notice quite a few small racks with 3 or 4 decent sized amps running off of 15A powerstrips.  How often do folks trip the breakers on these?  When I was running 4 ~1500W linear supply amps I tripped the strips breaker a couple of times and ended up running the two bridged sub amps separately into one of those octopus fan out things.

Some scrounging in the silicon valley junk dealers turned up the 20A strip I have now.

I keep thinking of a RackPac but very few of the places we play at have 2 pole power available (without resorting to the much despised cheaters).  And the hotels seem to have their own oddball setups so we either have to run off of several edisons or pay them to bring in their distro (which is usually some homemade kludge from their house electrician).
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: bo putnam on November 12, 2007, 05:30:55 pm
OK, I'll play.

Here's the recent iteration of my amp rack.

Top to bottom:

- Ashly Protea 4.24 GS (Aux 1 to 4)
- QSC CX502 (Aux 1, 2)
- QSC CX702 (Aux 3, 4)
- QSC CX502  (HF)
- QSC CX702  (MF)
- QSC CX1102 (LF)
- MotionLabs 1100-2-FF-D8

index.php/fa/12343/0/

DSP is at front of house; I use 12 sends for this config, but like having the DSP where I can use the PEQs, real-time.  

And yes, the case is White Rolling Eyes .  I got tired of dealing with black body radiation during the summer festival season...
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Matt Vivlamore on November 12, 2007, 05:39:13 pm
SteveKirby wrote on Mon, 12 November 2007 17:08

I notice quite a few small racks with 3 or 4 decent sized amps running off of 15A powerstrips.  How often do folks trip the breakers on these?  When I was running 4 ~1500W linear supply amps I tripped the strips breaker a couple of times and ended up running the two bridged sub amps separately into one of those octopus fan out things.

Some scrounging in the silicon valley junk dealers turned up the 20A strip I have now.

I keep thinking of a RackPac but very few of the places we play at have 2 pole power available (without resorting to the much despised cheaters).  And the hotels seem to have their own oddball setups so we either have to run off of several edisons or pay them to bring in their distro (which is usually some homemade kludge from their house electrician).



My power conditioner in the rack has been gutted.  There is no longer breaker and spike protector.  The broke.  But I am running the two PL236 (1 bridge and the other stereo 4 ohm), Mackie 1400i single channel, and two NX55p.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on November 12, 2007, 11:39:53 pm
Here's the back of my main rack.  The red tape by the tops out is because I have red tape on the 4 cond cables, so "helpful" people can tell the difference.  The 1/4's have banana pigtails that I can run into other racks just to simplify hooking up monitors or sidefills.

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 13, 2007, 08:56:04 am
Bo, actually, I love the white cases.  Interesting design with the butterfly latched inset covers, covering shock foam, I think?

What's with the TRS vice XLR for all input? Don't you have any probs with the shared sleeve ground?

Steve, since I'm asking other questions, what's the speaker wire gauge you have braided together?

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on November 13, 2007, 12:19:29 pm
It's 14AWG, same stuff the tops are wired internally with (home built small line arrays I'll post pics of someday).  The bottoms are 12AWG.  I left the bananas on there so I can play with running bridged with two boxes or stereo with four.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: bo putnam on November 13, 2007, 04:56:35 pm
Mike McNany wrote on Tue, 13 November 2007 05:56

Bo, actually, I love the white cases.  Interesting design with the butterfly latched inset covers, covering shock foam, I think?


Yup.  RockHard introduced this design option a couple-years ago.  I have a couple this way - much less bulky in the trailer.


Mike McNany wrote on Tue, 13 November 2007 05:56

What's with the TRS vice XLR for all input? Don't you have any probs with the shared sleeve ground?


If I understand your question - that is the output panel.  It's a 6-yr old thing I've just never updated, even though the monitors are now Speakon...  Embarassed  

The inputs are all XLR at the fan end of the amp rack snake (out of view) which connect to the snake stage box.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Brad Kivela on November 13, 2007, 08:14:19 pm
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Post by: Brad Kivela on November 13, 2007, 08:15:15 pm
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Hobbs on November 14, 2007, 01:46:05 am
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Hobbs on November 14, 2007, 01:50:31 am
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/grenaldo_87/7dc04003-2.jpg
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Hobbs on November 14, 2007, 01:51:18 am
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/grenaldo_87/7dc04004-2.jpg
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Matt Vivlamore on November 14, 2007, 03:50:04 am
Mark Hobbs wrote on Wed, 14 November 2007 01:46

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/grenaldo_87/7dc04002-2.jpg





hmmm to heavey to put into 1 rack...
218 lbs in 3 amps...

Time for some PL series...
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Hobbs on November 14, 2007, 01:16:32 pm
Matt Vivlamore wrote on Wed, 14 November 2007 02:50


hmmm to heavey to put into 1 rack...
218 lbs in 3 amps...

Time for some PL series...


Eh, I really like these big RMXs because they outperform the PLs by a landslide and the way I have them set up, moving them around is fairly easy. By using this wheeled table the RMXs are at hip level at all times. They go from the van to the table when I show up to the gig, they stay on the table at the gig, then back to the van after the gig and back to the table when I get back to the house and stay there untill the next gig in which case they go back to the van. They just get tranfered from the table to the van, which is easy. Picking them up off of the ground is a different story because that involves bending over.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on November 14, 2007, 01:39:58 pm
Mark Hobbs wrote on Wed, 14 November 2007 13:16

Matt Vivlamore wrote on Wed, 14 November 2007 02:50


hmmm to heavey to put into 1 rack...
218 lbs in 3 amps...

Time for some PL series...


Eh, I really like these big RMXs because they outperform the PLs by a landslide


PL6.0II vs. RMX5050.

No comparison, PL6.0 kills. Smile


Whats with the lack of rack screws?





Evan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Hobbs on November 14, 2007, 03:05:09 pm
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Wed, 14 November 2007 12:39

PL6.0II vs. RMX5050.

No comparison, PL6.0 kills. Smile


Whats with the lack of rack screws?


Who needs rack screws?? Thats another advantage of the big RMXs is that they are so heavy that I don't need to worry about them moving around in their case or falling out of their case hence no need to screw them down.

HA HA HA.....no I just took the pic before I screwed them into place. This is all new gear, I have yet to even hook it all up to anything.

When he said PLs I assumed he meant PLs that are currently in production. But, since all I am doing is 8 ohm stereo with all my amps the 6.0 does not offer me much....4 ohm mono, then thats a different story. My preferance is for the conventional power supply and thats another reason I opted for the RMX.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 14, 2007, 03:48:39 pm
Brad Kivela wrote on Tue, 13 November 2007 20:15

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Ya know, it MIGHT just be time to get matching looks, height and type amp cabinets. Just thinkin' PRO looks & all  Twisted Evil

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 14, 2007, 03:51:02 pm
Mark Hobbs wrote on Wed, 14 November 2007 01:46

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t286/grenaldo_87/7dc04002-2.jpg





Mark,
You mention the amp racks will stay on the cart at the gig in a later post. I hope the FX racks and mixer don't because mixing from the floor isn't all it's cracked up to be  Twisted Evil

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on November 14, 2007, 04:47:56 pm
Yes, but the mic case doesn't sit on the MixWiz level, it keeps sliding foward.   Laughing
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Hobbs on November 14, 2007, 05:22:18 pm
Mike McNany wrote on Wed, 14 November 2007 14:51


Mark,
You mention the amp racks will stay on the cart at the gig in a later post. I hope the FX racks and mixer don't because mixing from the floor isn't all it's cracked up to be  Twisted Evil

Mike McNany


Well, I guess I will find out. All I mix for is myself so it's not like different people/instruments (other than my own) are going through the rig, so I am hoping that the settings arn't going to change much from day to day. Rooms will change and I am sure that may make a difference, and I am *hoping* that I can make up for that with sound checking with a CD and do some minor tweeking at that point. Either way, I will figure something out and I am sure that with enough time a exerience in different rooms I will get a feel for what I need to do and thus know what to do with just a glance of the room based on past experience in similar rooms.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Brad Kivela on November 15, 2007, 02:46:50 am
 Rolling Eyes
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Hobbs on November 15, 2007, 05:01:32 am
Brad Kivela wrote on Thu, 15 November 2007 01:46

 Rolling Eyes


Would you care to elaborate??
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phill Chapman (Chappie) on November 15, 2007, 09:08:05 am
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phill Chapman (Chappie) on November 15, 2007, 09:08:32 am
Power input panel removed

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Nate Morefield on November 15, 2007, 07:03:59 pm
For 99% of the clubs locally that don't have their own system(at least the ones my band plays), this is complete overkill.  But it's been perfect for some outdoor gigs and even enough to start doing some sound work for a few other local bands.

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Deeter on November 15, 2007, 08:02:18 pm
Nate Morefield wrote on Thu, 15 November 2007 19:03

For 99% of the clubs locally that don't have their own system(at least the ones my band plays), this is complete overkill.  But it's been perfect for some outdoor gigs and even enough to start doing some sound work for a few other local bands.


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Nate, is that the patch panel you made from the discussion in your other post? Turned out very nice if it is. Smile
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Nate Morefield on November 15, 2007, 08:16:04 pm
Thanks for the kind words Scott & Yes, that's it.  

I'm pretty pleased with it all in all, though I'm still not 100% happy with the crimp connectors that are on the back of the speakon jacks.

The only problem with it cosmetically is one extra hole.  I had all the holes mapped out and somehow just put an extra one in there (above the left most 1/4").  Maybe I'll just tell people it's a weight saving measure.  Smile

Thanks again!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on November 15, 2007, 08:26:33 pm
Future expansion
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Vincent Molino on November 15, 2007, 08:39:55 pm
pre DSP old rack..MY BACK!!!!......

http://a606.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_0a417ada40b1ede81f373467e4071b4d.jpg


new rack...almost done..lol....

http://a190.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/3/l_3fd0172887f6ee04c279187e37a7b06d.jpg



now....


http://a805.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/24/l_546b76498331d8d2233b3ac39518323c.jpg


of course i do DJ shows so my mixer is here....rane empath...

http://a358.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_23e54afb47b31494325bcf23547d8e8d.jpg

last 2 photos by....Justin..Natural Slate Designs
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Eric Hassler on November 18, 2007, 09:48:41 pm
Please excuse my finger.  I hadn't used this camera in quite some time so my grasp was a little off. Smile

Here's my FOH rack.  Stacked on top of the rack is the monitor console (Spirit Live) and it's power supply.

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Eric Hassler on November 18, 2007, 09:49:44 pm
And here's my monitor rack:

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike_Monte on November 18, 2007, 11:58:57 pm
I'll add my rack when we enter the "weekend warrier bottom feeder" catagory...MM
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on November 19, 2007, 12:01:18 am
Mike Monte wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 23:58

I'll add my rack when we enter the "weekend warrier bottom feeder" catagory...MM

You could have put in right after my infamous Peavey boat anchor.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Donnie Evans on November 19, 2007, 11:06:37 am
Eric Hassler wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 02:48

Please excuse my finger.  I hadn't used this camera in quite some time so my grasp was a little off. Smile

Here's my FOH rack.  Stacked on top of the rack is the monitor console (Spirit Live) and it's power supply.

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I have a question... and I'm sure you have a simple answer... but your input att's on the PLX 3602's... one is wide open and one is all the way down on both amps.  Why is that?  I guess you're running them both bridged and only use one knob?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Josh Oswald on November 19, 2007, 11:08:43 am
That'd be my guess as well. I think that is standard operating procedure on bridged amps.

Josh
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Eric Hassler on November 19, 2007, 11:10:18 am
Donnie Evans wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 10:06

Eric Hassler wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 02:48

Please excuse my finger.  I hadn't used this camera in quite some time so my grasp was a little off. Smile

Here's my FOH rack.  Stacked on top of the rack is the monitor console (Spirit Live) and it's power supply.



I have a question... and I'm sure you have a simple answer... but your input att's on the PLX 3602's... one is wide open and one is all the way down on both amps.  Why is that?  I guess you're running them both bridged and only use one knob?


That is correct.  When using these amps in bridge mono only the channel 1 att is used.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Deeter on November 19, 2007, 11:17:00 am
Mike Monte wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 23:58

I'll add my rack when we enter the "weekend warrier bottom feeder" catagory...MM



LAB Lounge
"LAB Lite" - a place for weekend warriors, small sound company operators, bands running their own PA and newbies.

Mike,
Go ahead, add a pic of your amp rack(s), this thread is indeed in the Lounge. Very Happy
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Pete Sams on November 19, 2007, 09:25:19 pm
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Amp racks for me change a bit from gig to gig. I've got 4 Yamaha P7000's that cover FOH duty (subs/tops) and some P5000s and QSC's that do monitors. Racks have been reconfigured when a special situation comes up or multiple systems are out and I need something a certain way. Lately I've come down to using 1 or 2 P7000s on a pair of dual 18's and dual 15+2" tops (rane crossovers sit in amp racks or yamaha's have a swept HPF/LPF built in if in a pinch).
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Pete Sams on November 19, 2007, 09:37:22 pm
The previous pic was one P3200 and P5000 for mixes 1-4 and a P7000 for Subs/Tops. Subs were 4719A copies and tops were EV S15's.

I have 2 of these amp racks which go out more often than the 2 cases with P series amps. I like using these racks. The QSC RMX in this pic has been replaced by another CX502, behringer EQ's are being phased out in favor of DBX 231s. index.php/fa/12459/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Pete Sams on November 19, 2007, 09:38:20 pm
the back of the rack

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Bradley Hecht on November 19, 2007, 11:48:47 pm
I hope I got the image size right. Anyways here it is complete with my four legged security system. Once I got the LS-9, I was able to unload all of my out board gear.index.php/fa/12463/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on November 19, 2007, 11:50:25 pm
Your security system looks menacing.
Mine on the other hand is useless.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Bradley Hecht on November 19, 2007, 11:53:50 pm
And here's the backside with a panel that needs to go in.index.php/fa/12465/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Dale Black on November 20, 2007, 12:06:16 pm
excuse the mess to the left. damn home stereo and xbox.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Steve Hurt on November 21, 2007, 11:52:07 am
Here's my "powerhouse" amp rack

PLX2402 bridged to a pair of Growlers
PLX1804 stereo to SRX722's
Monitors are powered.

Before you laugh too hard, realize that my entire rig runs off 1 Edison!

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Gustav Hedelund on November 21, 2007, 05:30:15 pm
Here are my racks..  FOH FX/EQ and amp rack for "A" rig EV Xi-series.
Four 2181 subs and four 1152 tops.

Lab.Gruppen 4000 x3 (fp6400), and 1x Lab 2000.
Soon replaced by 5x EV cp4000 or maybe Dynacord H5000.


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/Gustav
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on November 21, 2007, 05:42:13 pm
After almost 30,000 views,and 200 Posts....I'm glad i started this thread it has been fun!
Here is my creation! Thanks for the ideas...Micky




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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on November 21, 2007, 08:53:49 pm
Micky Basiliere wrote on Wed, 21 November 2007 22:42

After almost 30,000 views,and 200 Posts....I'm glad i started this thread it has been fun!
Here is my creation! Thanks for the ideas...Micky


Nice job Micky!

I think the photos are great.  This is, after all, a predominantly visual format.

I think it was Steve Martin who first said "Talking about music is like dancing about architecture"...


Les
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Deeter on November 22, 2007, 01:20:41 am
Hope this is legit, as my amps are now in an "All In One Rack".
With all my posts and discussions on mixers from the Mack VLZ3, MixWiz3 and even the ProRack, sorry I ended up replacing my 12 yr old Mack 1604VLZ with the PV 16FX (for $779.00 including tax NEW).

With this board I dropped 2 spcs for effects (and the wall-warts), 2 spcs for a dual 31 band Eq, 4 spcs for the dual deck CD player (which I only used 1 tray). My break music is now on a memory stick connected to a USB slot linked to the last channel of the board which is a stereo channel. The effects (verb & delay) are onboard as is the dual 27 band GEQ.

I'll be adding a Samson S-phone HP amp in the rack in a week or so to replace the PreSonus HP4 that's on my drum rack. Then almost "everything" will be totally patched all the time.

So far from what I hear in my UM2's, I'm very happy with the 16FX and I do hear an upgrade in sound quality. If this is any tell tale sign, then I'm pretty sure it will be good enough for me out front through the mains Razz

The Samson S-Com is racked for a future ambient mic trial (when I get around to it).

The Before & After pics. Embarassed  Rolling Eyes  Very Happy

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 22, 2007, 11:09:37 am
Scott,

It seems the Peavey FX mixers are a nice halfway between the analog and digital mixers, feature-wise.

Personally, I would group the processors tight with the rack lights for the lights to be more functional. Then either put those all up top to leave room for cable storage on the amps, or bump the rackrider and processors down some to make it easier to plug in the mixer or other stuff into the rackrider. All those spacers are BEGGING for some band or sound company logos!

You might want to consider rear rack rails or some form of support, even wood blocks, under the power amps. Everything in one large rack, even a gear lightened one, means the likelyhood of accidental rough handling increases. You could even run bolts from the rack sides to the amp rear ears.

Last, with all those spacers, I'd also consider a front mounted I/O panel or two. If you add on a Powercon, you could leave the back on all the time without wires sticking out all over.

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Scott Deeter on November 22, 2007, 11:53:17 am
Mike McNany wrote on Thu, 22 November 2007 11:09

Personally, I would group the processors tight with the rack lights for the lights to be more functional. Then either put those all up top to leave room for cable storage on the amps, or bump the rackrider and processors down some to make it easier to plug in the mixer or other stuff into the rackrider. All those spacers are BEGGING for some band or sound company logos!


Well I left 1 space between the rack rider and processor for the ac plugs going into it, this way if the ac plugs hang a little bit they're not in the way for the in & outputs of the processor.

Like I said, I'm going to be adding a headphone amp between the S-Com & xover. I felt the space between the amps & xover could help with any heat generated from the amps. As far as Logos, I'm the drummer and mix from stage, so the audience don't see that part of the rack normally.

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Mike McNany wrote on Thu, 22 November 2007 11:09


You might want to consider rear rack rails or some form of support, even wood blocks, under the power amps. Everything in one large rack, even a gear lightened one, means the likelyhood of accidental rough handling increases. You could even run bolts from the rack sides to the amp rear ears.


At one time I did have brackets made to support the rears of the amps, just have to get them back in.

Mike McNany wrote on Thu, 22 November 2007 11:09


Last, with all those spacers, I'd also consider a front mounted I/O panel or two. If you add on a Powercon, you could leave the back on all the time without wires sticking out all over.


When in use, I do leave the back on as in the pic. I just showed the back off to show the wireing hook ups. As for a Powercon, again I mix from stage being the drummer so I want the ac going out the back. I have the back notched out on the bottom Left corner for the rack rider & amp ac lines to come out of. The other side is notched for a little extension cord coming out to connect to my drum rack which is plugged into the rack rider so it's protected to some sort.

I only have 3 ac lines all together 1 for each amp and 1 for the rack rider, I was considering adding a quad box internally with a side mounted Powercon connected, but if the need to ever have to split the amps ac lines for some reason I can still do it.

Our show can run off of (1) 20 amp circuit including our little light show & mains. We're totally direct with IEM's and E-drums.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jim Duyck on November 23, 2007, 12:49:52 pm
Josh Oswald wrote on Mon, 19 November 2007 10:08

That'd be my guess as well. I think that is standard operating procedure on bridged amps.

Josh


fwiw, that's how it works on QSC amps, but not every manufacturer...
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Shane Presley on November 23, 2007, 02:20:26 pm
Killer Rack Mickey... That must shake some boots...
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Paul Tollini on November 24, 2007, 06:35:57 am
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Here are my compact racks. I can run both from a single 20a edison. Subs are powered. Would be nice to have something lighter than the RMX's though.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on November 24, 2007, 12:32:17 pm
Hey Paul, who did the graphics?
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Post by: Ben Harris on November 24, 2007, 12:51:20 pm
Hey Mickey, just out of curiosity, what is the make of that power distro in your rack?  I am looking for some for my rig and am trying to get some ideas.  Anyone else have any ideas as well?

Thanks!

ben
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Ben Harris on November 24, 2007, 12:51:39 pm
Hey Mickey, just out of curiosity, what is the make of that power distro in your rack?  I am looking for some for my rig and am trying to get some ideas.  Anyone else have any ideas as well?

Thanks!

ben
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on November 24, 2007, 01:09:41 pm
I think this thread gets the award for Longest Thread of the Year and quite possibly, Longest Thread in LAB History.




Evan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 24, 2007, 01:21:17 pm
Paul,

Your racks have to be the most professional units I've seen for the level of gear in them. I'm not putting down what's in them but I do see a Berhinger comp (which I use too  Embarassed ) and a MEQ230  Twisted Evil

But EWI shock racks, with nice graphics on them, nice I/O panels, and even rear rack ears on the power amps, THOSE scream PROfessional  Cool Bizarrely, I just like looking at 'em.

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike McNany on November 24, 2007, 01:24:25 pm
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Sat, 24 November 2007 13:09

I think this thread gets the award for Longest Thread of the Year and quite possibly, Longest Thread in LAB History.

Evan


Ya know Evan,

These pics are the equivalent of lookin' under the hood at a car meet  Shocked  Ooo...Ahhhh.

Mike McNany
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jess Bruffett on November 24, 2007, 01:34:22 pm
"These pics are the equivalent of lookin' under the hood at a car meet  Ooo...Ahhhh."
and thats why im always happy to seen new replies to this thread
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Too Tall (Curtis H. List) on November 24, 2007, 03:39:58 pm
Mike Monte wrote on Sun, 18 November 2007 23:58

I'll add my rack when we enter the "weekend warrier bottom feeder" catagory...MM


Hey Man,
Anybody can make it work with rack after rack of the best gear.
The real trick is to do it with a bunch of cheap crap.
Hold Your head up high.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Paul Tollini on November 24, 2007, 04:29:10 pm
Phil LaDue wrote on Sat, 24 November 2007 12:32

Hey Paul, who did the graphics?


I did. They are vinyl cut out on a plotter. They don't hold up as well as paint, but are easier to change and I have a plotter to cut them out. Sometimes I use the vinyl as a stencil for paint, but it holds up pretty well as a decal.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Paul Tollini on November 24, 2007, 04:42:56 pm
Mike McNany wrote on Sat, 24 November 2007 13:21

Paul,

Your racks have to be the most professional units I've seen for the level of gear in them. I'm not putting down what's in them but I do see a Berhinger comp (which I use too  Embarassed ) and a MEQ230  Twisted Evil

But EWI shock racks, with nice graphics on them, nice I/O panels, and even rear rack ears on the power amps, THOSE scream PROfessional  Cool Bizarrely, I just like looking at 'em.

Mike McNany


Thanks for the kind words. I keep meaning to do the graphics on the patch panels.  
What can I say about the bottom feeder stuff. The MEQ230 works for now, but its retirement is planned. I am only using the Behringer as a limiter.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: John William on November 25, 2007, 09:37:26 am
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/johnkobe/Eiriasamprack.jpg
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Peter Møller on November 25, 2007, 05:39:20 pm
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6714/resizeofimg0564pf3.jpg

Have got 2 of these racks.. Driverack PAs have been replaced with Void Digidrives after this picture was taken..

/peter
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: John Moore on November 26, 2007, 12:10:08 am
It works, 50A CS in and a 100A breaker panel...we have not had any power issues. We use a 3 phase distro to feed each amp rack 100A of power...

index.php/fa/12600/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Andrew Loftus on November 26, 2007, 12:24:59 am
the Power Hs were on demo (hence one of them not being rack). Its Dynacorderific!index.php/fa/12601/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on November 26, 2007, 12:26:22 am
Hey Ben... They are Motion Lab's Rac pac's. They are hard to find on the used market,so i guess i got lucky! definitly worth the search....Micky
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on November 26, 2007, 12:32:39 am
SWEEEEET Racks Andrew!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Hobbs on November 26, 2007, 01:27:26 am
Andrew, it looks like it would not take much to knock over your gear the way you have it stacked...one sneeze and stuff would start falling over.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Joe Haycocks on November 26, 2007, 06:19:56 am
Hi all, here's the rack for my Funktion One mains. (Res2's and F218's).
http://a261.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/83/l_ea3d65562edb8e7b2b3480d1088de264.jpg
http://a782.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/114/l_d34d8838baf87a0417b871bc106f2ffd.jpg
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mike Kirkpatrick on November 26, 2007, 07:19:55 am
Hey Joe!
  Running those wires through the punch outs in that back panel is a recipe for disaster. Pick up some rubber grommets for those holes then you'll be safe.

Take care,
 Mike

Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Joe Haycocks on November 26, 2007, 08:23:11 am
Hi Mike,
Good idea! Thanks! Currently theyre attached to the underside of the panel, so they arent being pushed against the sharp edges, and wrapped in several layers of gaff, but I was a bit worried about that, and hadn't though of using grommets!

Thanks.
Joe
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Chris Blust on November 26, 2007, 02:24:17 pm
Peter M
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Andrew Loftus on November 26, 2007, 03:57:36 pm
Mark Hobbs wrote on Mon, 26 November 2007 00:27

Andrew, it looks like it would not take much to knock over your gear the way you have it stacked...one sneeze and stuff would start falling over.


with demo gear?!?!  nope.  we made sure it was solid.  the shims on the right (top of the rack/under the board) go front to back.  Smile
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Dan Mills on November 27, 2007, 08:05:22 am
Chris Blust wrote on Mon, 26 November 2007 19:24


What type/brand of power distro is that?


It looks like a unit sold by an outfit branded "Work" that is one of a broad range of such things sold under numerous different brands in the EU. I suspect that the Showtec stuff is actually from the same far eastern factory.

Interesting to see a fairly small rack like that being fed with three phase (400V phase - phase) power.

Regards, Dan.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jameson Perham on November 27, 2007, 08:27:33 pm
Amp rack for our VRX932LA & SRX718 rig.index.php/fa/12622/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Victor Kouli on November 28, 2007, 06:04:36 pm
Hey Paul,
Where did you get those nice white rear mounts for your amps?
Are they adjustable?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Paul Tollini on November 28, 2007, 07:26:57 pm
Victor Kouli wrote on Wed, 28 November 2007 18:04

Hey Paul,
Where did you get those nice white rear mounts for your amps?
Are they adjustable?

I made them, as well as the patch panels. They are just a simple angle piece. I used a brake, but you could easily bend them up yourself in a vise. They are not adjustable, as I just drilled the holes I needed. The material is .063 aluminum. It is prefinished white because it was all scrap from another project.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jamin Lynch on November 28, 2007, 09:33:00 pm
How many of each do are you using here? 3-VRX's and 2-SRX718's per side? How do they sound? I'll bet this is a nice sounding rig.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tom faderjockey Brandis on November 29, 2007, 09:20:12 am
index.php/fa/12636/0/

4 GPS3500's sub duty
2 CS4080's 1 for 12's in array, 1 for 15's in QW3's
1 GPS2600 mid's and highs in QW3's
1 GPS1500 for ribbons in array
3 CS4080's for monitor duty
2 VSX26 controllers
2 100 amp distro's

Tom in Baltimore
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on November 29, 2007, 05:40:28 pm
That's some pretty wild eq you've got going there.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jameson Perham on November 30, 2007, 12:26:00 am
Jamin Lynch wrote on Wed, 28 November 2007 20:33

How many of each do are you using here? 3-VRX's and 2-SRX718's per side? How do they sound? I'll bet this is a nice sounding rig.

If your talking about our rig, yeah were running 3 VRXs a side at the moment and 2 SRX718s a side, 4 total.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tom faderjockey Brandis on November 30, 2007, 11:45:09 am
Yeah, the things do looked all chopped up. That's what you get when you have several soundguys, several BE's and several mon techs touching the system every week. Won't be a problem once I'm finished with my presets for my controllers.

Tom in Baltimore
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: SteveKirby on November 30, 2007, 02:02:30 pm
Sometimes with house systems that bands have access to all week, it's better to get a "house curve" set up on one set of eq's and then bolt covers over them.  No touchy.  Then have another set inserted into the masters for the bands to play with that you zero out every day so you know where you are again.  Maybe even get inside and disable the range switches so they only have the lower range.  I guess that's what you're after with the processors.

At one club I used to play at, the Boneshakers came though with their soundguy.  After the show, I ran behind the FOH and jotted down all the settings.  By the time I played there again they were all over the place, but I had a real good idea where to start.

But anytime I see 70% of the bands bottomed out, it scares me.  Kind of like what happens when you let a FBX box take over.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Eric Hassler on November 30, 2007, 02:35:46 pm
I have a habit of writing down the EQ and cross over setting for any house install I've ever worked on and for my installed rig.  It makes things much easier the next time I work in the venue!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Bob Leonard on November 30, 2007, 04:00:24 pm
Vocals only.

index.php/fa/12653/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Bob Leonard on November 30, 2007, 04:01:53 pm
Backline, instruments only


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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Alfred_Mapanao on December 02, 2007, 01:48:32 am
RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS wrote on Sat, 27 October 2007 05:47



Where I work we call that a Thermal Shutdown!  

Sexy.....Maybe
Efficient cooling in 110 degree weather....Not even close!



True...That's why my amps are glad they live in San Diego.  Very Happy
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Douglas R. Allen on December 02, 2007, 05:49:10 am
[quote title=Joe Haycocks wrote on Mon, 26 November 2007 06:19]Hi all, here's the rack for my Funktion One mains. (Res2's and F218's).
http://a261.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/83/l_ea3d65562edb8e7b2b3480d1088de264.jpg

I can't seem to find a home page for the FFA amps.
Anyone?

Douglas R. Allen
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Shaun Crawford on December 02, 2007, 09:42:03 am

http://www.noisecontrolaudio.com looks to be your site you want. though, it looks like those specific amps were discontinued?

http://www.noisecontrolaudio.com/products_ffa5000.html this would be a page i found on google for ffa but is no longer links from any page i could find on NCA's web site.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Douglas R. Allen on December 02, 2007, 11:35:13 am
Thanks Shaun.

http://www.noisecontrolaudio.com/products_ff8.htm

It looks like the above link is their current line.

Thanks again.
Douglas R. Allen
Title: Re: Let's See Those Amp Racks
Post by: Mac Kerr on December 02, 2007, 12:34:58 pm
The picture is a little blurry do to camera shake in the dark, but here are the SR amp racks from the other night. This was a charity dinner/auction with an "A" list band and an after party with a cover band. From the bottom those are 4 Lab Gruppen FP+7000s, a PD panel with 3
Title: Re: Let's See Those Amp Racks
Post by: Victor Kouli on December 02, 2007, 01:09:21 pm
Mac,
If there are any reason/logic for RacPacs and Speaker Panel being above the Amps? I now, it has been already questioned numerous times, but would it be less strain on Power & Speaker interconnects at the bottom of the rack? And again, it seems to be just another 2' of wasted cable length. Just curious... Confused
Title: Amp rack layout
Post by: Mac Kerr on December 02, 2007, 01:18:59 pm
Victor Kouli wrote on Sun, 02 December 2007 13:09

Mac,
If there are any reason/logic for RacPacs and Speaker Panel being above the Amps? I now, it was already questioned numerous times, but would it be less strain on Power & Speaker interconnects? And again, it seems to be just another 2' of wasted cable length. Just curious... Confused
I like it because it is less strain on my back. The cables are tougher than i am.  Laughing It also keeps the amps, which despite their low weight are still the heaviest thing in the rack, low to keep the center of gravity low. These racks are a redesigned version of larger racks that used to have 4 MA5000VZs in them, and keeping the amps low was real important. Is your cable so tight that 2' makes a difference? Cable lengths are what they are, they don't get custom cut for each show.

Mac
Title: Re: Amp rack layout
Post by: Victor Kouli on December 02, 2007, 02:06:14 pm
Laughing
No, my cables are long enough and I do not cut them for every show.
I'm in a process of redesigning my rack and at the end it should look similar to yours (though BSS instead of XTA), so I just was getting all the ideas.
What's at the back of your racks, you don't have a picture of the back, don't you?
Do you keep the back just open, or there is a vented back panel and/or any auxiliary exhaust fans?
Title: Re: Amp rack layout
Post by: Mac Kerr on December 02, 2007, 04:58:23 pm
The backs are open. Those are not my racks, they are PRG Audio's. I own an Instant Replay, a laptop, and some adapters.

Mac
Title: FFA
Post by: Joe Haycocks on December 02, 2007, 07:36:59 pm
Douglas,
There isnt currently an FFA website. The amps are their current line. I can send u a current spec. sheet, or contact details for Dave Millard, the designer if you want, drop me a PM
Joe.
Title: Re: FFA
Post by: Thomas Harkin on December 02, 2007, 09:19:09 pm
Joe Haycocks wrote on Sun, 02 December 2007 18:36

Douglas,
There isnt currently an FFA website. The amps are their current line. I can send u a current spec. sheet, or contact details for Dave Millard, the designer if you want, drop me a PM
Joe.

Flat view?
Title: Re: FFA
Post by: Adam Robinson on December 02, 2007, 10:10:31 pm
This one was mine for a day haha.  It was good times, though.


index.php/fa/12692/0/
Title: Re: FFA
Post by: Joe Haycocks on December 03, 2007, 04:46:22 am
Quote:

Flat view?

Thomas,
Not sure what you mean by that!
Joe
Title: Re: FFA
Post by: Mac Kerr on December 03, 2007, 10:02:54 am
Joe Haycocks wrote on Mon, 03 December 2007 04:46

Quote:

Flat view?

Thomas,
Not sure what you mean by that!
Joe
What he means is that you responded to my post with a response that made no sense. That is usually the symptom of someone using flat view and not using the reply button in the post they are responding to.

Mac
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on December 09, 2007, 07:37:31 pm
index.php/fa/12855/0/
Thought some of you would like to see the Distro i just finished building for my Rig... Micky (front is in next Post!)
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Micky Basiliere on December 09, 2007, 07:39:50 pm
Here is the Front...index.php/fa/12857/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mikey Brown on December 09, 2007, 07:51:07 pm
QSC Racks Mons.

index.php/fa/12860/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mikey Brown on December 09, 2007, 07:54:19 pm
QSC racks mains

index.php/fa/12862/0/


Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Michael Ioia on December 09, 2007, 08:07:20 pm
This was my old system ... Not as "hardcore" as some stuff on here, but it was perfect for my needs!

index.php/fa/12863/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Matt Johnson on December 14, 2007, 11:53:50 pm
Alright, I was bored and took some pictures.  Not as flashy as some, but functional for me.

index.php/fa/13011/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Matt Johnson on December 14, 2007, 11:54:56 pm
And the front.  I split up the QSC from the Yamaha's to hopefully reduce the thermal shutdown possibilites.  So far, so good.index.php/fa/13012/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on December 15, 2007, 05:33:28 am


I posted my monitor racks earlier...  But they sound better in this picture:


index.php/fa/13014/0/


Les
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Shane Presley on December 15, 2007, 08:35:40 am
Insert large pools of drool here..... Mike what are you powering with this?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Geri O'Neil on December 15, 2007, 01:24:07 pm
Just how many friggin' amps can there be in this country?????

Geri O
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Kemper Watson on December 15, 2007, 01:27:04 pm
Geri O'Neil wrote on Sat, 15 December 2007 13:24

Just how many friggin' amps can there be in this country?????

Geri O


I've got eight more to add but my camera's broken  Sad
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: John Roberts {JR} on December 15, 2007, 01:48:21 pm
counting CS800s ?  Laughing

JR
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: James Henriksen on December 15, 2007, 02:00:53 pm
Mains:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h316/jamisonh16/equipment%20pics/DSC00667.jpg

Monitors:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h316/jamisonh16/equipment%20pics/DSC00665.jpg

Been wanting to show those off to you guys. Very Happy
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Kemper Watson on December 15, 2007, 02:15:55 pm
John Roberts  {JR} wrote on Sat, 15 December 2007 13:48

counting CS800s ?  Laughing

JR


Actually the Gold Face 800 is in a rack I use for acoustic acts, not running with the big dogs  Laughing
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mikey Brown on December 16, 2007, 10:49:00 pm
These power a 650z over JF200 rig we have had for a while. 2 are set up triamp. The last one is a biamp rack. The mon 4 packs
are dealers choice, 200's, 400's or 500's via Protea. Hopefully some Micro 12's are in the future.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jamie Taylor on December 17, 2007, 04:32:56 am
Geri O'Neil wrote on Sun, 16 December 2007 04:24

Just how many friggin' amps can there be in this country?????

Geri O


I'm waiting for Rex Ray to come in here and just lay waste to this thread with pics of Clair's...
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Chuck Fudge on December 17, 2007, 04:15:54 pm
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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Alex Connell on December 17, 2007, 04:24:58 pm
For those of you that have multiple (sometimes large) amps and no rac-pacs, etc. in your racks, how are you getting electricity to your amps?

I've noticed a number of racks with power conditioners or rack power strips. Are you only using one strip/circuit worth of electricity in this situation?

Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tom Manchester on December 17, 2007, 04:29:38 pm
Quote:

For those of you that have multiple (sometimes large) amps and no rac-pacs, etc. in your racks, how are you getting electricity to your amps?

I've noticed a number of racks with power conditioners or rack power strips. Are you only using one strip/circuit worth of electricity in this situation?



I have L5-20 inlets mounted to rack panels on all of my amp racks. From the L5-20 it goes to a duplex or quad box with regular edison outlets in it. Then the amps plug into the edisons. My large amp rack has seperate L5-20's for subs, and one for Mains / Monitors. The amp racks all get fed off of my distro which I place near the amp racks.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Eric Hassler on December 17, 2007, 04:47:38 pm
Alex Connell wrote on Mon, 17 December 2007 15:24

For those of you that have multiple (sometimes large) amps and no rac-pacs, etc. in your racks, how are you getting electricity to your amps?

I've noticed a number of racks with power conditioners or rack power strips. Are you only using one strip/circuit worth of electricity in this situation?




For my setup (on page 10, here's the pic again)...
http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/fa/12423/0/17125/

The distro is one foot away from the amps.  Each 3602 gets its own 20A circuit.  The two 1602s are on another 20A circuit.  The Furman is for the cross over, small work light, monitor console, etc.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Alex Connell on December 17, 2007, 05:16:42 pm
Thanks for the clarification on that as far as how ya'll are doing that. I have some time off of school and where I won't be using my stuff the next few weeks. I've acquired the parts and will be creating something in my rack like Tom described.

Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: chris.hall on December 18, 2007, 12:44:10 am
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 18, 2007, 02:49:52 am
chris.hall wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 05:44

so, these aren't too normal, but we have a show end of next week requiring a decent amount of power distributed in small packages... so, here's what we're throwing at it... front pic only Smile


index.php/fa/13044/0/
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Lester Moran on December 18, 2007, 04:16:41 am
chris.hall wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 05:44

so, these aren't too normal, but we have a show end of next week...


Very cool.  Who's "we"?

Les
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jamie Taylor on December 18, 2007, 07:58:15 am
I Assume the DSP in the powersofts wasn't to your taste?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Walter on December 18, 2007, 08:49:46 am
Matt Johnson wrote on Fri, 14 December 2007 23:54

And the front.  I split up the QSC from the Yamaha's to hopefully reduce the thermal shutdown possibilites.  So far, so good.index.php/fa/13012/0/


I have my RMX2450s and P7000s together in my amp rack and have never had a cooling problem. Have you?

index.php/fa/13045/0/



Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mark Walter on December 18, 2007, 08:51:22 am
chris.hall wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 00:44

so, these aren't too normal, but we have a show end of next week requiring a decent amount of power distributed in small packages... so, here's what we're throwing at it... front pic only Smile
-ch
index.php/fa/13043/0/


NOT FAIR! ! ! ! Very Happy
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Peter Etheredge on December 18, 2007, 09:10:42 am
chris.hall wrote on Mon, 17 December 2007 23:44

so, these aren't too normal, but we have a show end of next week requiring a decent amount of power distributed in small packages... so, here's what we're throwing at it... front pic only Smile
-ch
index.php/fa/13043/0/



You suck!  Laughing
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Shane Presley on December 18, 2007, 10:17:23 am
HO
LY
SH!*

somebody has too much money... lol Very Happy
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tony "T" Tissot on December 18, 2007, 11:41:37 am
What happens when you need a "Large" rig?

index.php/fa/13046/0/

You win.

Thread over.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on December 18, 2007, 12:43:21 pm
chris.hall wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 00:44

so, these aren't too normal, but we have a show end of next week requiring a decent amount of power distributed in small packages... so, here's what we're throwing at it... front pic only Smile
-ch



Where in Maryland are these racks sitting, and when are they left unattended in the warehouse? Twisted Evil





Evan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jeff Plumblee on December 18, 2007, 10:09:00 pm
Pardon my noobness, but what are those?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Adam Robinson on December 18, 2007, 10:15:34 pm
Dolby Lake processors and Powersoft K series amps.


Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Mac Kerr on December 18, 2007, 10:20:15 pm
Jeff Plumblee wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 22:09

Pardon my noobness, but what are those?
That would be PowerSoft K series amps, and Dolby Lake processors. They are very high end solutions.

Mac
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on December 18, 2007, 10:24:01 pm
Mac Kerr wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 22:20

Jeff Plumblee wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 22:09

Pardon my noobness, but what are those?
That would be PowerSoft K series amps, and Dolby Lake processors. They are very high end solutions.

Mac



Yer links are the same. Come on Mr. Moderator, you should be on top of your game. Razz Laughing




Evan
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Sean Hayes on December 18, 2007, 10:26:59 pm
Here is what I don't get. How do these 1RU amps deliver sooo much power? I understand that they cost significantly more than most other amps. But still. I am just dazzled
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on December 18, 2007, 10:33:16 pm
That would be PowerSoft K series amps, and Dolby Lake processors.
They are very high end solutions.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Todd Rasmussen on December 19, 2007, 12:05:35 am
chris.hall wrote on Mon, 17 December 2007 23:44

so, these aren't too normal, but we have a show end of next week requiring a decent amount of power distributed in small packages... so, here's what we're throwing at it... front pic only Smile
-ch
index.php/fa/13043/0/


I need some new amps for my home theater... those look about right. Smile
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Steve Hurt on December 19, 2007, 12:20:02 am
Sean Hayes wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 22:26

Here is what I don't get. How do these 1RU amps deliver sooo much power? I understand that they cost significantly more than most other amps. But still. I am just dazzled



Just looked around on that site.  Wow!!  They need 45 amps EACH on the input!!


Those aren't amp's they're arc welders!   Laughing  Laughing


(and don't try cutting off the A/C plug and replacing it with a 15 amp-er on those baby's!!!!)
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tony "T" Tissot on December 19, 2007, 12:20:45 am
Sean Hayes wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 19:26

Here is what I don't get. How do these 1RU amps deliver sooo much power? I understand that they cost significantly more than most other amps. But still. I am just dazzled

Simple: "they cost significantly more than most other amps."

US$ 4K to 8 or 9K per - or thereabouts. (I couldn't find then at Musician's Fiend Mad )

# #

Ask Mr. Prescott. He tried them before he finally realized "I don't need no stinkin' amps."

http://campuspa.com/images/k10/index.html
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jamie Taylor on December 19, 2007, 12:24:37 am
I was also on a gig where they were being trialled.

They were great...but from memory quite heavy....and obviously quite expensive.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Todd Rasmussen on December 19, 2007, 12:25:09 am
Couldn't quite make out the Powersoft models for sure...

Bottom three in each rack look like K10s and the top two are K6s? Close?
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 19, 2007, 12:34:14 am
Tony "T" Tissot wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 05:20

Sean Hayes wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 19:26

Here is what I don't get. How do these 1RU amps deliver sooo much power? I understand that they cost significantly more than most other amps. But still. I am just dazzled

Simple: "they cost significantly more than most other amps."

US$ 4K to 8 or 9K per - or thereabouts. (I couldn't find then at Musician's Fiend


They're not really all that expensive. I'd expect you could find a K6 for not too much more than $3,000. IMO the prices are pretty competitive with what Camco and Lab Gruppen are charging these days. If you're running a 2 Ohm load per channel, they make good sense.

And Jamie, they're only 26 lbs. I suggest you spend some time in the gym if you think that's heavy. Either that or come help me push my Crest Pro-Tour rack around for a couple of weeks.  Laughing
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Steve Hurt on December 19, 2007, 12:50:32 am
What kind of a distro do you use to run 40 amplifiers that need 45 amps each!
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Tony "T" Tissot on December 19, 2007, 12:52:45 am
Steve Hurt wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 21:50

What kind of a distro do you use to run 40 amplifiers that need 45 amps each!


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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Phil LaDue on December 19, 2007, 12:54:26 am
Steve Hurt wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 00:50

What kind of a distro do you use to run 40 amplifiers that need 45 amps each!

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Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jason Dermer on December 19, 2007, 02:01:34 am
I guess Mr. Bensen was a happy man the day that you called him...

FWIW, about two weeks ago I swapped a Dolby Lake into the spot formerly occupied by a DR480 and 3231LTs, and I will NEVER go back.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jamie Taylor on December 19, 2007, 02:18:45 am
Pascal Pincosy wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 15:34

And Jamie, they're only 26 lbs. I suggest you spend some time in the gym if you think that's heavy. Either that or come help me push my Crest Pro-Tour rack around for a couple of weeks.  Laughing


I couldn't honestly remember if they were heavy or not...but yeah, I totally need to hit the gym again....but when I go away I lose all the muscle mass and it turns into flab, and that's not fun for anyone.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Donnie Evans on December 19, 2007, 08:54:28 am
chris.hall wrote on Tue, 18 December 2007 05:44

so, these aren't too normal, but we have a show end of next week requiring a decent amount of power distributed in small packages... so, here's what we're throwing at it... front pic only Smile
-ch
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I think this post has now made it mandatory that this thread be moved to the Lab.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Stuart Pendleton on December 19, 2007, 10:16:04 am
NO!  If that is his Lounge appropriate rig I don't want to see his LAB rig. A man can only take so much.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: Jeff Plumblee on December 19, 2007, 10:16:31 am
Holy Crap.  Until today I didn't know they existed, now I want one.


No, make that several.
Title: Re: LET'S SEE THOSE AMP RACKS!
Post by: James Henriksen on December 19, 2007, 12:03:23 pm
So, according to the spec sheet, each one of those little racks will put out 50,400 watts at 4 Ohms Bridged Mono.  For a whopping grand total of 403,200 watts. Shocked  Shocked  Shocked  Shocked

Assuming those are 3 K10's and 2 K6's per rack. Probability says they're not running all of them in bridged mono, but hey, that's the theoretical total output.  Even at 4 Ohms per channel, that would be a possible 136,000 watts.  
Title: This thread has gotten too long
Post by: Mac Kerr on December 19, 2007, 02:30:47 pm
This thread has gotten to the point where it is very hard to read. It is not an uninteresting topic, but if anyone wants to continue a discussion, start a new thread.

Mac