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Title: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Joe Breher on July 16, 2011, 03:33:09 am
I think the topic lays it all out. Would you prefer to own (eight) LabSubs or (eight) EAW KF940? Why?

(edit notes - the digit '8' in parentheses translates to some stupid smiley with sunglasses on)
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Ivan Beaver on July 16, 2011, 09:41:06 am
I think the topic lays it all out. Would you prefer to own (eight) LabSubs or (eight) EAW KF940? Why?

(edit notes - the digit '8' in parentheses translates to some stupid smiley with sunglasses on)
It depends on what you are trying to do.

Is rider compliance an issue?  Is cost an issue?  Is size an issue? etc etc.

There are often advantages and disadvantages to different designs.  And what may be no big deal to one person is a really big deal to another.

Just saying there are a lot of different considerations that go into choosing one product over another.
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Rob Triner on July 23, 2011, 01:37:18 am
I think the topic lays it all out. Would you prefer to own (eight) LabSubs or (eight) EAW KF940? Why?

(edit notes - the digit '8' in parentheses translates to some stupid smiley with sunglasses on)



I'd have to agree with Ivan Beaver. however, for a simple rough answer, The LAB sub will perform remarkably well for most situations. in many, it will exceed the KF-940 per distortion smoothness and (depending) extension.  There is also the ease of "tweakin it later" factor.  GOD BLESS Mr. Danley!
For the dollar, learning, and pride of creating- build a LAB and make sure to thank Mr. Danley for his contributions to our industry and the DIY community.  Also, post results!

  Cheers,
   -Rob
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Doug Fowler on July 23, 2011, 11:26:43 am


I'd have to agree with Ivan Beaver. however, for a simple rough answer, The LAB sub will perform remarkably well for most situations. in many, it will exceed the KF-940 per distortion smoothness and (depending) extension.  There is also the ease of "tweakin it later" factor.  GOD BLESS Mr. Danley!
For the dollar, learning, and pride of creating- build a LAB and make sure to thank Mr. Danley for his contributions to our industry and the DIY community.  Also, post results!

  Cheers,
   -Rob

Rob -

Please go to your profile and ensure your real name gets displayed on your post.

Thanks

-doug, LAB moderator
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Joe Breher on July 25, 2011, 01:04:53 am
It depends on what you are trying to do.
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Thanks for weighing in. I am thinking about my next year's upgrade, which will be subs on the order of the above. I had been thinking LabSubs, but an ebay listing got me thinking about the KF940's. Not that I'll be buying this month, but it did get me thinking.

In my current situation, rider compatibility is not an issue. However, the direction growth is taking, it will become a bigger consideration. Point to the EAWs.

The LabSubs are a better fit for my transport. I can get 4 wide in the back of my truck, and have a nice 64 sq ft surface to stack lighter stuff on top of. The KF940's would only go 3-wide, mouth up. Score one for the LabSubs.

My inquiry is primarily output/LF extension related. Assume somebody else has to schlepp & stack - which would you rather be listening to?
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: John Chiara on July 26, 2011, 08:37:46 pm
Thanks for weighing in. I am thinking about my next year's upgrade, which will be subs on the order of the above. I had been thinking LabSubs, but an ebay listing got me thinking about the KF940's. Not that I'll be buying this month, but it did get me thinking.

In my current situation, rider compatibility is not an issue. However, the direction growth is taking, it will become a bigger consideration. Point to the EAWs.

The LabSubs are a better fit for my transport. I can get 4 wide in the back of my truck, and have a nice 64 sq ft surface to stack lighter stuff on top of. The KF940's would only go 3-wide, mouth up. Score one for the LabSubs.

My inquiry is primarily output/LF extension related. Assume somebody else has to schlepp & stack - which would you rather be listening to?

I use EAW tops with Lab subs..no rider issues yet. Plus, I can stack 4 Labs on 4 Labs in my truck...saves a lot of room and easy to move.
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Joe Breher on July 27, 2011, 02:01:26 am
I use EAW tops with Lab subs..no rider issues yet. Plus, I can stack 4 Labs on 4 Labs in my truck...saves a lot of room and easy to move.

Hmmm... I've got the height to do that too. I kinda dismissed the idea as being a ball-buster. Then again, with some of the other stuff that needs to be moved about and stacked, I might not notice.
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Chris Davis on July 27, 2011, 03:00:27 pm
I'd get the LAB subs if I were in your situation.  I'd say their form factor is the most important thing I would consider on that level.  On the other hand I would get the EAW's if I already had some to begin with needed more to match. 

Easier to move is easier to move.

Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Brandon Romanowski on August 29, 2011, 07:05:55 pm
I think the topic lays it all out. Would you prefer to own (eight) LabSubs or (eight) EAW KF940? Why?

(edit notes - the digit '8' in parentheses translates to some stupid smiley with sunglasses on)

If you do decide to go with 940's I have a pair I can sell to you !!  :)
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Brad Weber on September 08, 2011, 12:48:32 pm
In my current situation, rider compatibility is not an issue. However, the direction growth is taking, it will become a bigger consideration. Point to the EAWs.
Before awarding the point you might also want to consider cross rental and what other providers near you have.  If you need a few more boxes for a specific show could you get them from somebody else in the area?  Might you be able to rent some of your boxes to others if they're in that situation?
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: Pat Semeraro on April 26, 2013, 07:52:37 pm
For me the choice is simple.  With the UX8800 processor, it can be run at war volume and not blow up.  Enter a few details like input sensitivity, ohm load and output power, and the processor takes care of EQ and limiting, both excursion and thermal.  YES it prevents you from squeezing the last .5 dB out of the cabinet but it will work show after show.  As always, if you need more output - add more boxes.
Title: Re: LabSub > EAW KF940?
Post by: drew gandy on May 08, 2013, 12:39:32 pm
For me the choice is simple.  With the UX8800 processor, it can be run at war volume and not blow up.  Enter a few details like input sensitivity, ohm load and output power, and the processor takes care of EQ and limiting, both excursion and thermal.  YES it prevents you from squeezing the last .5 dB out of the cabinet but it will work show after show.  As always, if you need more output - add more boxes.
So your choice is for the UX8800?  Interesting...