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Title: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Aaron Johnson on April 22, 2011, 02:33:16 pm
I'm trying to track down part numbers for the various phoenix plugs DSP manufacturers use.  I think this would be good information to have.  So here's the list, if you have the part number fill it in.

Biamp - Audia/Nexia:   3-Pole Green = 1776168, 3-Pole Black = 1776207, 3-Pole Orange =  1976010, 5-Pole Black =  1776197
BSS - Soundweb London:   6-Pole Orange = ?, 12-Pole Orange = ???
Media Matrix - Nion:   12-Pole Black = ???
Media Matrix - X-Frame:   3-Pole Black = ???
Rane - RPM88/RPM44/RPM22 et.al.:  3-Pole Green = 1776168, 5-Pole Green = 1757048 or 1776142
Symetrix - SymNet:   3-Pole Green = ???
Symetrix - Jupiter:   12-pole Green = ???
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Brad Weber on April 22, 2011, 09:56:01 pm
Aaron,
 
I believe that Euroblock or Phoenix connector come in two common pitches or spacings, 5mm and 5.08mm.  They're close enough that you can typically use either for 3 and 4 position connectors but when you get to 8 and 12 position connectors they are not interchangeable.  So you probably want to make sure that any information is the actual part used by the manufacturer or something somebody has verified works.
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: drew gandy on May 01, 2011, 09:48:00 pm
I was recently thinking about doing something like this for Shure and Lectrosonics connectors. 
So far I've found that there is a strain relief 3 pin for Shure automixer (SCM810) that Hosa sells - model phx3f (or phx300f).  This piece looks like it might take care of the breaking wire issue that I often see with the Shure SCM810 mobile racks.  The wires seems to either break at the phoenix or at the xlr jack and I end up soldering them back while testing table mics just before a show. 
Lectrosonics has some plugs shown on the accessories index at their site.
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Karl Winkler on May 02, 2011, 11:00:47 am
I'm trying to track down part numbers for the various phoenix plugs DSP manufacturers use.  I think this would be good information to have.  So here's the list, if you have the part number fill it in.

Lectrosonics:

3-pin Phoenix, green PN#21607
4-pin Phoenix, green PN#21548
5-pin Phoenix, green PN#21580
7-pin Phoenix, green PN#21505
10-pin Phoenix, green PN#21600
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Aaron Johnson on May 06, 2011, 12:02:22 pm
Aaron,
 
I believe that Euroblock or Phoenix connector come in two common pitches or spacings, 5mm and 5.08mm.  They're close enough that you can typically use either for 3 and 4 position connectors but when you get to 8 and 12 position connectors they are not interchangeable.  So you probably want to make sure that any information is the actual part used by the manufacturer or something somebody has verified works.

Yeah, I'm aware of the pitch spacing.  Thus the reason why I'd like to have a database for all the different types.
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Aaron Johnson on May 06, 2011, 12:06:53 pm
I'm trying to track down part numbers for the various phoenix plugs DSP manufacturers use.  I think this would be good information to have.  So here's the list, if you have the part number fill it in.

Biamp - Audia/Nexia:   3-Pole Green = 1776168, 3-Pole Black = 1776207, 3-Pole Orange =  1976010, 5-Pole Black =  1776197
BSS - Soundweb London:   3-Pole Orange = 1976010, 12-Pole Orange = ???
Media Matrix - Nion:   12-Pole Black = ???
Media Matrix - X-Frame:   3-Pole Black = ???
Rane - RPM88/RPM44/RPM22 et.al.:  3-Pole Green = 1776168, 5-Pole Green = 1757048
Symetrix - SymNet:   3-Pole Green = ???
Symetrix - Jupiter:   12-pole Green = ???

I've added the Biamp 3-pole black, orange and 5-pole black to the the list.  I do know that Biamp and Rane use the 5.08mm spacing.  Can anyone else confirm Media Matrix and Symetrix?  Also, if anyone would want to add other Manufacturer's models that would be great. 
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Rain Jaudon on July 23, 2013, 02:26:46 pm
Got this info from Biamp Service today - (thanks for the sources from other vendors Aaron)

Connectors:
-Tesira (W/strain relief tail and silkscreen)
Orange (SEC-4)      322.0392.900 $3.76ea.
Green   (SIC-4)   322.0393.900 $3.76ea.
Black   (SOC-4)           322.0394.900 $3.76ea.
Blue   (SAC-4)           322.0395.900 $3.76ea.
6 pin green (Logic I/O)   322.0388.900 $8.96ea.

- Audia/Nexia/Vocia (these have the strain relief tail)
Green   (IP2)      520.0164.900   $3.32ea.
Black   (OP2)      520.0162.900   $3.32ea.
Orange (AEC2)      520.0163.900   $3.28ea
Yellow (PA2)      520.0176.900   $3.68ea
RC Bus 5 pin      520.0165.900   $6.16ea.
Green 4 pin (TI2)    520.0160.900   $11.88ea.

-Fusion:
5 pin green (logic I/O)   520.0186.900 $7.96 each
2 pin yellow              520.0188.900 $8.32 each
6 pin mini (Parm)           322.0389.900 $8.96 each

- Vocia(these have the strain relief tail):
6 pin black       322.0381.900 $8.48 each
4 pin yellow       520.0004.900 $8.48 each
4 pin black              322.0390.900 $6.20 each

-General (No strain relief)
(2006) VS8/V8      520.0156.900   $3.76ea
(2007 and after) VS8/V8 520.0173.900   $3.88ea
3 pin black                  520.0123.900   $2.08ea.
4 pin black                  520.0128.900   $2.92ea.
5 pin black                  520.0138.900   $4.20ea.
3 pin Auto2             520.0180.900   $3.28ea.
4 pin Auto2      520.0182.900   $4.36ea.
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Josh Millward on July 23, 2013, 06:03:20 pm
Can anyone else confirm MediaMatrix?
Hi Aaron,

MediaMatrix NION NIO series I/O cards each use eight 3 pin blocks with 3.81 mm pitch.
Part number: 33717219
Retail Price: $5.78 each

MediaMatrix CAB 4n I/O cards, CAB 16i, CAB 16o, CAB 8i, CAB 8o, XFrame 88, MM-8802 (BoB) all currently use 3 pin blocks with 5 mm pitch for audio I/O. The GIPO interfaces on these devices may be different.
Part number: 33714936
Retail Price: $3.19

All retail pricing is accurate as of this posting. Pricing may change over time.

From Peavey's Support FAQ: (http://www.peavey.com/support/faq/)
Quote
Q: How can I order a replacement part for my Peavey product?
A: You can order genuine Peavey parts from any Authorized Peavey Dealer or Service Center. If this is not possible in your case, you may also purchase parts direct from Peavey.
To order replacement parts direct, please call us at 877-732-8391 (toll free in the U.S.) or 601-483-5365. The extension for either number is 1386.
We can take your order via credit card or ship COD to a place of business ONLY.
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Hold times may be long during peak hours. If you have to wait on hold, feel free to leave a name and number and a service representative will contact you as soon as possible.
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Customers outside the U.S. and Canada should contact their local Peavey Distributor for assistance.
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Benjamin Noel on August 05, 2013, 07:34:03 pm
If someone wanted to cross reference further. I did a broad search on DigiKey for some of these standard terminal block plugs that have been discussed above.  Looks like they have close to 6000 matches.  My search criteria is here:
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv1280=6&pv1280=2&FV=fff40016%2Cfff803be%2C1640056%2C1640085%2C4780037%2C4780056%2C9340018%2C934002d%2C9340030%2C9340031%2C9340033%2Ce7c0002&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=500 (http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?pv1280=6&pv1280=2&FV=fff40016%2Cfff803be%2C1640056%2C1640085%2C4780037%2C4780056%2C9340018%2C934002d%2C9340030%2C9340031%2C9340033%2Ce7c0002&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=500)
Prices are mostly in line with the individual pro-audio mfgs, but just incase you were looking for an alternate source, and maybe just the ability to order them online.
Cheers.
Benjamin
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Craig Hauber on August 25, 2013, 03:10:40 pm
I'm trying to track down part numbers for the various phoenix plugs DSP manufacturers use.  I think this would be good information to have.  So here's the list, if you have the part number fill it in.

Biamp - Audia/Nexia:   3-Pole Green = 1776168, 3-Pole Black = 1776207, 3-Pole Orange =  1976010, 5-Pole Black =  1776197
BSS - Soundweb London:   6-Pole Orange = ?, 12-Pole Orange = ???
Media Matrix - Nion:   12-Pole Black = ???
Media Matrix - X-Frame:   3-Pole Black = ???
Rane - RPM88/RPM44/RPM22 et.al.:  3-Pole Green = 1776168, 5-Pole Green = 1757048 or 1776142
Symetrix - SymNet:   3-Pole Green = ???
Symetrix - Jupiter:   12-pole Green = ???

do you have a link to the catalog of parts that your numbers are referencing?  I'm assuming the company is "Phoenix" but is that a branding of a bigger co. or a generic name like "kleenex"  Some manufacturers call them "euroblock" which leads me to wonder if it's a standard that many connector companies follow and not just the "Phoenix" co.

Also add Ashly and QSC to the list if anyone has that info :-)
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Aaron Johnson on September 27, 2013, 01:43:16 pm
The part numbers I referenced in the OP are actual Phoenix Contact part numbers.  Haven't verified the many other PNs posted.  Yes, Euroblock is the more generic term.
Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: George Binder on July 23, 2015, 08:43:04 pm
QSC uses a 3-position Euroblock/Phoenix connector with a 5.08mm pitch on their IO Cards.  They typically supply an Altech P/N 37.003 with those cards.
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Altech/37003/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsDddcp1dBDJBlpCIgkVoJz9LFISpEKpmA%3d (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Altech/37003/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsDddcp1dBDJBlpCIgkVoJz9LFISpEKpmA%3d)
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Post by: Mac Kerr on July 23, 2015, 08:54:11 pm
QSC uses a 3-position Euroblock/Phoenix connector

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Title: Re: Phoenix plug part numbers
Post by: Charles Beauregard on July 10, 2018, 06:02:07 pm
I'm trying to track down part numbers for the various phoenix plugs DSP manufacturers use.  I think this would be good information to have.  So here's the list, if you have the part number fill it in.

Biamp - Audia/Nexia:   3-Pole Green = 1776168, 3-Pole Black = 1776207, 3-Pole Orange =  1976010, 5-Pole Black =  1776197
BSS - Soundweb London:   6-Pole Orange = ?, 12-Pole Orange = ???
Media Matrix - Nion:   12-Pole Black = ???
Media Matrix - X-Frame:   3-Pole Black = ???
Rane - RPM88/RPM44/RPM22 et.al.:  3-Pole Green = 1776168, 5-Pole Green = 1757048 or 1776142
Symetrix - SymNet:   3-Pole Green = ???
Symetrix - Jupiter:   12-pole Green = ???

QSC CX108V amplifier output Phoenix euro block connector : 1777781