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Title: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Martin Toft on April 10, 2011, 05:21:37 pm
Does anyone know when pictures of the new Turbosound Flashline series will be available?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Mac Kerr on April 10, 2011, 05:32:18 pm
Does anyone know when pictures of the new Turbosound Flashline series will be available?

Thanks!

You mean these?

http://www.turbosound.com/news

These are a band new product, it may be best to contact Turbosound directly for more info than the press release offers.

Mac
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Peter Morris on April 10, 2011, 07:58:09 pm
Does anyone know when pictures of the new Turbosound Flashline series will be available?

Thanks!

http://forum.speakerplans.com/turbosound-flashline_topic50152_page3.html

Peter
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Martin Toft on April 10, 2011, 08:18:48 pm
http://forum.speakerplans.com/turbosound-flashline_topic50152_page3.html

Peter

WOW!! Thank you! that is amazing. looked at the all the assumptions with the drivers at speakerplans :D haha. can't wait to hear this.. and look at that enormous sub! how deep that thing is! i bet that thing hits really low...

Thanks a lot! If anyone have any other opinions i would be delighted to hear them :)
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Owen Orzack on April 10, 2011, 10:23:35 pm
http://forum.speakerplans.com/turbosound-flashline_topic50152_page3.html

Peter

Didn't they have a little sign on the Frankfurt stand that said "no pictures"  ;)


Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Peter Morris on April 11, 2011, 12:05:20 am
http://forum.speakerplans.com/turbosound-flashline_topic50152_page3.html

Peter

Didn't they have a little sign on the Frankfurt stand that said "no pictures"  ;)
Hmmmm  … would have loved to been able to go to Frankfurt this year…

FWIW …  http://www.facebook.com/TurbosoundLtd

Peter
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Steve Payne on April 11, 2011, 09:36:17 am
Hey Mac,
 Your link features an article on the TCS1061, which is the install version of the TA600 Flex Array.  Mention of the FlashLine is in a sidebar article on new product releases at the Pro Light & Sound.  It is intended to be a serious competitor at the very highest echelon of our craft.
  Flash Line is a 5 way (including all new subs) system. Each 4 way horn loaded line array element contains:  (x2) 12" L, (x4) 6.5" LM, (x2) 6.5" HM, (x3) 1.75" HF.

If I could figure out how to attach an image I'd post a spy photo that can be shown now that the release is official  :-)
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Owen Orzack on April 11, 2011, 11:40:02 am
Didn't they have a little sign on the Frankfurt stand that said "no pictures"  ;)

Hmmmm  … would have loved to been able to go to Frankfurt this year…

FWIW …  http://www.facebook.com/TurbosoundLtd

Peter

The marketing person on the stand said "the best way to get pictures out there is to tell people not to take any..." Seems to be successful

Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Steve Ferreira on April 12, 2011, 05:29:11 pm
Looking at the other pics in that link, the amp looks like a Lab, but the faceplates say Turbosound......custom plates, or is Turbo going to be supplying amps for there rigs like other manufactures have?
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Bennett Prescott on April 12, 2011, 06:26:01 pm
Lab.Gruppen and Turbosound are in a partnership over this new Flash line.
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Jim McKeveny on April 13, 2011, 09:30:07 am
A fine piece of engineering, apparently. I do worry about fundamental group delay issues among the passbands - probably addressed in the DSP - that when added to other processing delays in a typical dynamic live situation, do not sound quite right. There is a lot of latency floating around in modern sound systems, and we seem casual to it.
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Peter Morris on April 13, 2011, 10:06:25 pm
A fine piece of engineering, apparently. I do worry about fundamental group delay issues among the passbands - probably addressed in the DSP - that when added to other processing delays in a typical dynamic live situation, do not sound quite right. There is a lot of latency floating around in modern sound systems, and we seem casual to it.

Hi Jim,

I’m not sure I understand your concern.  I always delay my FOH to the backline or what ever is appropriate - and I always need at least 10 to 15 ms of delay.  Latency is almost never an issue for FOH applications. It’s a different story in monitor land,  but for boxes like the Flashline, K1’s, MLA’s and d&b J’s etc which don’t live in monitor land ....  and considering the amount of delay we would be talking about I don’t see an issue…..

In terms of sound quality they are better than ever.

Peter
Title: Re: Turbosound Flashline
Post by: Steve Payne on April 13, 2011, 10:23:29 pm
A fine piece of engineering, apparently. I do worry about fundamental group delay issues among the passbands - probably addressed in the DSP - that when added to other processing delays in a typical dynamic live situation, do not sound quite right. There is a lot of latency floating around in modern sound systems, and we seem casual to it.

Jim,
  I have been a Turbo user for many years.  They have always been fanatical in their design about achieving proper summation / optimum performance at crossover points.  I think choosing the Lake processor (aka Lab Gruppen) for system control is going to allow them to realize their goals even better than before.  I am just in the process of converting to the new FIR Lake files for the Flex and Aspect systems.  These systems were very impressive before, but the improvement is noticable.