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Title: FOH nightmare
Post by: Travis Bradshaw on December 10, 2019, 10:34:23 pm
https://youtu.be/8TtZ4E7Hd0g

Video shows singer hitting microphone against speakers and threatening to fight sound engineer. The comments explain what happened.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Tim McCulloch on December 10, 2019, 11:39:26 pm
https://youtu.be/8TtZ4E7Hd0g

Video shows singer hitting microphone against speakers and threatening to fight sound engineer. The comments explain what happened.

Interestingly, the replies by people with apparently "real" names seemed to have the most plausible explanations.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: brian maddox on December 10, 2019, 11:41:14 pm
Interestingly, the replies by people with apparently "real" names seemed to have the most plausible explanations.

Weird
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: John Fruits on December 11, 2019, 01:50:54 am
Interestingly, the replies by people with apparently "real" names seemed to have the most plausible explanations.
Are you referring to the person who called the "talent" an entitled twat muffin?  I do wonder if that phrase was put together by using that pick one word from each column insult generator.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Helge A Bentsen on December 11, 2019, 04:22:14 am
Never mind what actually happened, did you guys see Fulcrums take on it? 😁

https://www.instagram.com/p/B53VTbaJfE2/?igshid=1tnfluf0xftkj

Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Geert Friedhof on December 11, 2019, 06:12:47 am
Not Peavey or Behringer either.

Just sayin'...
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Keith Broughton on December 11, 2019, 08:07:57 am
When someone acts out like that, it's time for a FOH coffee break...with some nice lounge music through the PA. ;D
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Jason Raboin on December 11, 2019, 08:42:06 am
Never mind what actually happened, did you guys see Fulcrums take on it? 😁

https://www.instagram.com/p/B53VTbaJfE2/?igshid=1tnfluf0xftkj

Ha!  That's my FL283 system.  Thanks for sharing.  Hadn't noticed.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Tim McCulloch on December 11, 2019, 11:03:34 am
Are you referring to the person who called the "talent" an entitled twat muffin?  I do wonder if that phrase was put together by using that pick one word from each column insult generator.
Yeah, I found that a bit odd as I'd previously heard that insult as "muffin twat", but perhaps it's that "separated by a common language" thing... ;)
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Brian Jojade on December 11, 2019, 12:05:07 pm
Wow, what a professional display on stage!

Yeah, it sucks when shit happens.  Yeah, it's ok to be pissed. But good talent would go out of their way to hide problems from the audience whenever possible.  If there's a PA problem, take a short break, fix it, and carry on.  Don't act like a 2 year old.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Helge A Bentsen on December 11, 2019, 12:54:23 pm
Ha!  That's my FL283 system.  Thanks for sharing.  Hadn't noticed.

Interesting system. Can you share your thoughts and experience with it? Maybe in a separate thread so this doesn’t derail completely.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Dave Garoutte on December 11, 2019, 01:09:08 pm
I think I'd turn off the mic and tell the dork/douche/a-hole that he broke it beating on the speaker.
The amount of disrespect for other peoples stuff is mind-boggling, as is his assumption that the sound crew isn't frantically trying to fix the problem.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Daniel Levi on December 11, 2019, 01:20:38 pm
There's a quote from Jean Michel Jarre from his Destination Docklands concerts, concerts that had their fair share of problems. Now the weather experienced on the 2 shows was horrid with rain and high winds, plus the floating stage that was supposed to travel up/down the Thames had to say put.
But with all this when he introduces himself he takes it all in his stride and says "well we've had a few difficulties tonight but well, frogs like rain!". Now that's how a professional handles things.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Riley Casey on December 11, 2019, 02:50:15 pm
Well except for the LCR guy but how does the house system suddenly not work in LCR when presumably it worked right up til the BE got in front of it?  Interesting hang in any case.

Interestingly, the replies by people with apparently "real" names seemed to have the most plausible explanations.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on December 11, 2019, 04:20:27 pm
This wasn't an equipment/PA snafu but...years ago when we lived in san Diego, we went to see Van Halen play at the Sports Stadium down there when Sammy Hagar was playing with Eddie.
During the show, Eddie had one of his famous hissy fits and basically walked off stage.
After only a minute or 2 of everyone not quite knowing what to do, Sammy had a stage hand bring out a stool and an acoustic guitar and he sat down and started to sing and play some of his earlier stuff. It looked to me to be totally impromptu and the show didn't miss a beat.
Eddie came back on about 10 minutes later and the scheduled show continued without any more 'interruptions'.
I thought that was one of the most professional things I have ever seen...... from Sammy that is!!
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Jason Raboin on December 12, 2019, 08:41:39 am
Interesting system. Can you share your thoughts and experience with it? Maybe in a separate thread so this doesn’t derail completely.


If you want to start a new thread with questions I'd be happy to answer them.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: David Allred on December 12, 2019, 09:47:30 am
https://youtu.be/8TtZ4E7Hd0g

Video shows singer hitting microphone against speakers and threatening to fight sound engineer. The comments explain what happened.

Why is he complaining that it is not feeding back?
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Kevin Maxwell on December 12, 2019, 10:31:10 am
Does anyone have a picture of this stage from the front? It looks weird. Why are the hangs SO LOW?
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Scott Helmke on December 12, 2019, 10:47:25 am
Well except for the LCR guy but how does the house system suddenly not work in LCR when presumably it worked right up til the BE got in front of it?  Interesting hang in any case.

"We don't have our own FOH guy, but we have a show file!  So it's a no brainer easy gig!"
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Dave Garoutte on December 12, 2019, 01:49:05 pm
Why is he complaining that it is not feeding back?
Actually, that would be just commupance if the PA came back on while he was beating on it and he got the full face feedback. >:(
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Geert Friedhof on December 12, 2019, 09:31:58 pm
I would have done the same thing as the FOH guy: It's his problem, not mine.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: gordonmcgregor on December 15, 2019, 04:17:11 pm
There's a quote from Jean Michel Jarre from his Destination Docklands concerts, concerts that had their fair share of problems. Now the weather experienced on the 2 shows was horrid with rain and high winds, plus the floating stage that was supposed to travel up/down the Thames had to say put.
But with all this when he introduces himself he takes it all in his stride and says "well we've had a few difficulties tonight but well, frogs like rain!". Now that's how a professional handles things.

He was incredibly gracious at those gigs as was all the team unlike the clown in the video, he'd be shitting bits of microphone for days if he pulled that stunt on me
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Paul G. OBrien on December 15, 2019, 07:07:24 pm
Maybe it's because I'm on my 3rd beer of the night but I bet if they had cut FOH to some of that annoyingly upbeat elevator music and put a TV test pattern on the video screen(if available) it might have diffused the situation.

During the show, Eddie had one of his famous hissy fits and basically walked off stage.
After only a minute or 2 of everyone not quite knowing what to do, Sammy had a stage hand bring out a stool and an acoustic guitar and he sat down and started to sing and play some of his earlier stuff. It looked to me to be totally impromptu and the show didn't miss a beat.

I saw Van Hagar on tour at Molson Park in Barrie perhaps around the same time and Sammy did that exact same thing except I think it was a scheduled part of the show as there were no "technical issues" that I could see for the whole event just great sound and great music. Maybe it worked so well they added it as part of the show.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Debbie Dunkley on December 15, 2019, 09:05:40 pm
Maybe it's because I'm on my 3rd beer of the night but I bet if they had cut FOH to some of that annoyingly upbeat elevator music and put a TV test pattern on the video screen(if available) it might have diffused the situation.

I saw Van Hagar on tour at Molson Park in Barrie perhaps around the same time and Sammy did that exact same thing except I think it was a scheduled part of the show as there were no "technical issues" that I could see for the whole event just great sound and great music. Maybe it worked so well they added it as part of the show.

Hah!!!...Interesting. Eddie definitely displayed some anger and displeasure as he rushed off stage the night I saw them - it was the talk of everyone in our group that evening. So..... perhaps you are right OR maybe ....it was all an act in the first place..?
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Randy Pence on December 16, 2019, 07:19:27 am
Actually, that would be just commupance if the PA came back on while he was beating on it and he got the full face feedback. >:(

as would the audience, unfortunately
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Dave Garoutte on December 16, 2019, 12:52:44 pm
as would the audience, unfortunately
Who cares about the audience?  It's about REVENGE!!!!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Tim McCulloch on December 16, 2019, 08:22:01 pm
Who cares about the audience?  It's about REVENGE!!!!!!!! >:(

Early in one of my careers I was advised that "revenge is a dish best served cold."
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Chris Hindle on December 17, 2019, 12:35:39 pm
as would the audience, unfortunately
I hate digging pieces of shattered diaphragm out of the phase plugs.........
Chris.
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Miguel Dahl on December 20, 2019, 08:41:37 pm
Anyone know what actually happened? Wrong patch seems viable. But with some other comments (There are two comments which seem real, but different from each other).

Anyway. I know which band I'd say "Nope! Never" to if I'd ever be asked to do house for if their guy was absent. Which would be never, but in "theory".
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Miguel Dahl on December 20, 2019, 08:42:13 pm
Anyone know what actually happened? Wrong patch seems viable. But with some other comments (There are two comments which seem real, but different from each other) I couldn't get a real answer.

Anyway. I know which band I'd say "Nope! Never" to if I'd ever be asked to do house for if their guy was absent. Which would be never, but in "theory".
Title: Re: FOH nightmare
Post by: Eric Snodgrass on December 21, 2019, 05:03:00 pm
Reading some of the comments in the video's comment section it appears that some people said that the FOH console crashed and they were switching it out for another one.  That's probably why the monitors were working but not the FOH rig.