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Title: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: duane massey on May 01, 2019, 12:42:59 pm
For everyone concerned about EMF, here you go:
https://elinkemf.com/collections/frontpage
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Miguel Dahl on May 01, 2019, 02:29:20 pm
For everyone concerned about EMF, here you go:
https://elinkemf.com/collections/frontpage

Some years ago our crew was looking for food when we saw a HiFi store. In the window there was this tiny jar of small marbles or such, it should improve the sound when placed on top of a speaker. It was quite expensive too for what you actually got, but who can put a price on placebo, eh? We went inside and asked one of the employees about this magic jar of marbles, and he said... "Um..uh,  nah it's bogus, but you know.."
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Mark Scrivener on May 01, 2019, 02:35:14 pm
Man I went into the wrong business. Unfortunately I have this bad habit of wanting to be able to look at myself in the mirror and sleep at night, otherwise what a great business. I love the FAQ page....."made of the same proprietary material that is used to protect computer CPUs" and "All eLink Protection Devices should be replaced approximately every 2 years for maximized protection".

Reminds me of the good old days of "Hi-Fi" when you could buy the absurdly expensive digital wall clock that was supposed to magically clean up your AC power and make everything sound better - just by plugging it into an outlet in the next room.
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Bob Faulkner on May 01, 2019, 02:50:18 pm
I love this crap! 
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: frank kayser on May 01, 2019, 05:41:14 pm
As amusing as this is, where is the Consumer Protection Commission on this type of thing?
Babies choking on toys, Check.
Out-and-out fraudulent products?  Crickets.
How can these folks sell this snake oil with a straight face?  Or live with themselves?


A fool and their money are soon parted.
Does that also include us "GAS affected" sound providers/musicians too?
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Bob Charest on May 01, 2019, 07:06:41 pm
I was thinking the same thing... They should get busted.

And “every two years...”? Grr


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Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Bob Faulkner on May 01, 2019, 07:28:59 pm
As amusing as this is, where is the Consumer Protection Commission on this type of thing?
Babies choking on toys, Check.
Out-and-out fraudulent products?  Crickets.
How can these folks sell this snake oil with a straight face?  Or live with themselves?


A fool and their money are soon parted.
Does that also include us "GAS affected" sound providers/musicians too?
We can probably point a finger at the "Truth in Advertising" laws.  This is why you see the litany of scam medications, vitamins, "men's enhancement" drugs, and whole crap load of other things on TV that claim to do something. 

To get around these scams, the companies peddling their wares, are required (by law) to have a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen indicating that the use of their product will not cure or prevent a disease (I'm sure everyone has seen this before)... even though the item they are marketing is indicating it will prevent a disease.

Because the disclaimer is required, anyone can sell anything and claim it does everything you need... all legal.

I think there's too many scams running that the FTC can't get them all.  As well, some of these websites may be located in other countries where the FTC has no jurisdiction.


Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Jay Barracato on May 01, 2019, 08:04:37 pm
For everyone concerned about EMF, here you go:
https://elinkemf.com/collections/frontpage
I dont know what emf is but it sounds scary . ..

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Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Chris Hindle on May 01, 2019, 08:23:56 pm
I dont know what emf is but it sounds scary . ..

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If they have something that will protect my "stuff" from EMP, maybe we can talk........  ::)
Chris.
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Stephen Swaffer on May 01, 2019, 10:29:51 pm
I was thinking the same thing... They should get busted.

And “every two years...”? Grr


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That's actually pretty long lived-Apple and Microsoft convinced people they needed new devices or software every year while they built their fortunes  ;)  .
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Kurt Hutchison on May 01, 2019, 11:37:45 pm
I researched this a bit, and EMF sensitivity is real, some people do get sick from it, these scam devices are preying on that fear.  If you suffer from 'that a decent EMF meter and installing blocking into your home (alum foil is cheap, as is aluminum mesh), can help.

I was originally going to joke about a tin foil hat, but aluminum foil actually does block EMF, the joke's on me.
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: duane massey on May 01, 2019, 11:42:16 pm
I have no shame, I DID joke about tin foil hats, and I have no regrets....
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Tim McCulloch on May 02, 2019, 01:19:13 am
I have no shame, I DID joke about tin foil hats, and I have no regrets....

You can't find real *tin* foil these days, and I'm telling you it's some kind of alien conspiracy with the ghost of Elvis in consort with Sasquatch.  Gotta be.   :-X
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Scott Holtzman on May 02, 2019, 01:45:12 am
We can probably point a finger at the "Truth in Advertising" laws.  This is why you see the litany of scam medications, vitamins, "men's enhancement" drugs, and whole crap load of other things on TV that claim to do something. 

To get around these scams, the companies peddling their wares, are required (by law) to have a disclaimer at the bottom of the screen indicating that the use of their product will not cure or prevent a disease (I'm sure everyone has seen this before)... even though the item they are marketing is indicating it will prevent a disease.

Because the disclaimer is required, anyone can sell anything and claim it does everything you need... all legal.

I think there's too many scams running that the FTC can't get them all.  As well, some of these websites may be located in other countries where the FTC has no jurisdiction.
I want to meet the guy who thinks that taking a supplement to enlarge their penis will solve all their problems. 

Clearly there is a huge market for this product yet I have never met anyone who admits to buying it nor extolling the effects.

Clearly this is soft spot for males as no similar products for females. 

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Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Tim McCulloch on May 02, 2019, 02:29:34 am
I want to meet the guy who thinks that taking a supplement to enlarge their penis will solve all their problems. 
Sell him a really big PA system instead.
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Clearly there is a huge market for this product yet I have never met anyone who admits to buying it nor extolling the effects.
That's because PA systems will make you deaf.
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Clearly this is soft spot for males as no similar products for females. 

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The Pun!  It Burns!
 ::)
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Bob Faulkner on May 02, 2019, 07:57:55 am
I want to meet the guy who thinks that taking a supplement to enlarge their penis will solve all their problems. 

Clearly there is a huge market for this product yet I have never met anyone who admits to buying it nor extolling the effects.

Clearly this is soft spot for males as no similar products for females. 

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Well said!!

Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Ed Hall on May 02, 2019, 08:15:02 am
Saw this on a Facebook page.
Wow, we all are in the wrong business. About $1.85 in materials and less then 5 minutes each to make. At $100 a piece, that’s $1200 an hour profit!!


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Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Bob Faulkner on May 02, 2019, 10:34:32 am
I can think of only 2 reasons why these scams exist:

1.  Many people lack critical thinking skills
2.  Many people want to believe that something exists that can fix/cure whatever it is they are afraid of

It's the same old marketing scam that's been around for ever... convince people they need or don't need something (scare tactic), then sell them a solution to fix/combat their fear.  Tell someone they smell, then sell them a bar of soap; works every time (for many people).


Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: John L Nobile on May 02, 2019, 11:36:40 am
Years ago, they provided entertainment to go along with the BS. At least you got a show. Let's bring back the travelling medicine shows.

https://www.legendsofamerica.com/ah-patentmedicine/
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Nathan Riddle on May 02, 2019, 01:47:07 pm
I researched this a bit, and EMF sensitivity is real, some people do get sick from it, these scam devices are preying on that fear.  If you suffer from 'that a decent EMF meter and installing blocking into your home (alum foil is cheap, as is aluminum mesh), can help.

I was originally going to joke about a tin foil hat, but aluminum foil actually does block EMF, the joke's on me.

What research reveals that?

The symptoms are psychosomatic. No one has a real EMF sensitivity.

https://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs296/en/
Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Ben Ballard on May 02, 2019, 02:09:33 pm
There was a comment on a Samson power conditioner once that when they plugged their pedals and amps into it (not exactly recommended I know) they said it made their sound much brighter than it was through the normal mains plug.

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Title: Re: And you thought "Monster" cables were bad?
Post by: Stephen Kirby on May 15, 2019, 12:42:00 am
From the site FAQ: 
Q: What are the Pendant and Pocket Protection Device stones made of?
A: The stones are made of the same proprietary material that is used to protect computer CPUs.

Hmm, since I make computers, phones and other consumer devices with CPUs for a living I had to think about this.  For a second or two.

There is such thing as EMI absorber material.  It's kind of expensive so it doesn't get used much in lieu of conventional metal shield cans.  Things like the Apple Watch are encapsulated in epoxy and then covered with a thin metal coating in the same fashion as the mirrored coatings on skyscraper glass.  This has to be done in a vacuum.  Which resembles the folks who fall for this.   :o