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Title: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on August 06, 2017, 05:18:04 pm
Played around with some subs last week and made some screen captures......

https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/07/20/playing-around-with-a-couple-of-subs/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/07/20/playing-around-with-a-couple-of-subs/)

https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/01/subs-2-playing-around-again/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/01/subs-2-playing-around-again/)

https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/03/end-fired-array-3-subs/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/03/end-fired-array-3-subs/)

https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/06/a-mix-between-a-reversed-end-fired-array-gradient-and-a-end-fired-array/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/06/a-mix-between-a-reversed-end-fired-array-gradient-and-a-end-fired-array/)

Enjoy ;-)

Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on August 13, 2017, 02:39:37 pm
And a new post on my blog where i use 2 Fulcrum Acoustic CS121 passive cardioid subs in a End Fired config.

https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/13/end-fired-sub-array-with-2-fulcrum-acoustic-cs121-passive-cardioid-subs/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/13/end-fired-sub-array-with-2-fulcrum-acoustic-cs121-passive-cardioid-subs/)

Enjoy
Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on August 17, 2017, 09:42:42 am
And the last one for now

https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/17/gradient-sub-array-or-reversed-end-fired-sub-array/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/17/gradient-sub-array-or-reversed-end-fired-sub-array/)
Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Riley Casey on August 17, 2017, 01:19:18 pm
Excellent stuff Timo - thanks for going the extra kilometer to document and share this info.  I have a question for you and the wider subwoofer measuring crowd.  I've notice that several manufactures are building self contained cardiod subs in which the rear or subtractive driver is not the same size as the primary driver.  The d&b with an 18 forward facing and a 12" rear facing comes to mind.  Have you tried experimenting with separate subs of different sizes and configurations say a dual 18 as the primary forward facing box and a single 18 as the back subtractive box?
Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on August 17, 2017, 04:57:19 pm
Only once or twice (i did some crazy stuff. Found out about it going trough the older stuff at my blog  8))

A guy that build a sh*t load of lab horns needed to cancel around 50Hz since his main thing was working with DJ's working on turn tables.
So a little sub was used to create a reduction at the 50Hz region which was just enough to get what the guy wanted......

(https://timobeckmangeluid.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/4xlabhorns-2x-usbs-2xturbo-toppen.jpg)

Turns out there was 2 of those little guys (it's been some time ago so i forgot about the twins instead of 1)

The challenge on this kind of array is not the reduction at the back near field nor far field. It's finding out which of the 2 you need to not get in to trouble with local permits regarding SPL levels.

I've had a close encounter with the D&B cardioids. On that production my spot was 3 to 4mt away at the back from a whole bunch of them at a hardcore dance event a couple of years ago. After the 2nd DJ i had to get away from there because the pressure at the back of them was literally sickening......
Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on August 19, 2017, 03:36:55 pm
And the difference between a "omni" and "passive cardioid" sub:
https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/19/omni-vs-passive-cardioid/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2017/08/19/omni-vs-passive-cardioid/)
Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on June 27, 2018, 04:18:10 am
Again i got to play outside with a bunch of subs

https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/06/26/3x-front-back-in-a-end-fired-config/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/06/26/3x-front-back-in-a-end-fired-config/)
Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on July 29, 2018, 12:20:59 pm
And a new Blog post:

https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/07/20/subjes-01/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/07/20/subjes-01/)

This post was done after reading a document from the city of Amsterdam......The orange parts are translations done by Google translate ;-)
Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on August 07, 2018, 07:14:56 pm
And a follow up on the above blog post: Sub arrays stacks of 3
https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/08/07/subjes-02/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/08/07/subjes-02/)
Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Brian Bolly on August 09, 2018, 07:15:50 am
And a new Blog post:

https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/07/20/subjes-01/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/07/20/subjes-01/)

This post was done after reading a document from the city of Amsterdam......The orange parts are translations done by Google translate ;-)

Hi Timo,

The PDF document in the blog post doesn't seem to be working - it looks like it's pointing to an alias link instead of the actual document.

Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on August 09, 2018, 07:38:32 am
Hi Timo,

The PDF document in the blog post doesn't seem to be working - it looks like it's pointing to an alias link instead of the actual document.

As soon as i click on the link i get a download which i can open and read the document. (the abracadabra stuff in there is Dutch so good luck with Google Translate ;-) )

I'll take a look as soon as i get home again
Title: Re: Playing around with some subs
Post by: Timo Beckman on August 23, 2018, 06:15:08 pm
https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/a-prelude-to/ (https://timobeckmangeluid.wordpress.com/2018/08/24/a-prelude-to/)