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Title: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Wyatt Fisher on July 05, 2017, 01:31:25 pm
Hi everyone, long time lurker, first-time poster...

I'm curious if anyone on the forum has any experience with the Meyer LINA boxes?

I'm just looking for opinions on them.
Thanks!

Wyatt
Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Scott Holtzman on July 05, 2017, 01:38:59 pm
Hi everyone, long time lurker, first-time poster...

I'm curious if anyone on the forum has any experience with the Meyer LINA boxes?

I'm just looking for opinions on them.
Thanks!

Wyatt

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Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Wyatt Fisher on July 05, 2017, 02:00:02 pm
Opinions and other are only available to those that follow the guidelines when you join, specifically the requirement to use your real name in the "display name.

My apologies
Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Justice C. Bigler on July 05, 2017, 02:01:22 pm
Yes, I have heard it. I had mixed feelings about it, due largely to the way it was demoed by the Meyer staff, I think.

You can read a short review in my previous post on the subject Meyer Lina in Sugarland, TX (http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,163492.msg1504992.html#msg1504992)
Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Lance Hallmark on July 07, 2017, 11:30:12 am
Yes, I have heard it. I had mixed feelings about it, due largely to the way it was demoed by the Meyer staff, I think.

You can read a short review in my previous post on the subject Meyer Lina in Sugarland, TX (http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,163492.msg1504992.html#msg1504992)

My opinions and experience from the demo at Infocomm Orlando this year pretty much match Justice's review.
My opinions are as a regular listener, I don't run rigs of this size or caliber and I am not a sound engineer. My initial opinion was that it was a lot of boxes that didn't even cover the complete theater (what they said) and it was very harsh to my ears at higher levels. I had to leave halfway through the ground stack demo, it was just too harsh and loud on my ears and I am someone who likes it loud (and has hearing loss). I originally thought I would be way more impressed going into the demo. As Justice said, it could easily just be that particular setup or deployment. More subs would have definitely balanced out the highs a bit.
Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: David Hoover on July 09, 2017, 09:21:26 am
Hi everyone, long time lurker, first-time poster...

I'm curious if anyone on the forum has any experience with the Meyer LINA boxes?

I'm just looking for opinions on them.
Thanks!

Wyatt
They're not bad for a line array.  The compact ones like that aren't generally as good sounding to me.  The more boxes there are, the more lobing that happens. I would rather have one Danley SH96 per side than 8 of those per side.  Shoot, you can get 2 Danley J3's even for cheaper than that line array and the J3 is nearly a 150dB cabinet.  One box per side.  Done.  I like the SH96 speakers with the BC415 subs.  I use them multiple times a week and nothing is better in my opinion.  If you don't want to use subs, get J1 speakers and you won't need any.

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Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Wyatt Fisher on July 10, 2017, 02:43:32 pm
Yes, I have heard it. I had mixed feelings about it, due largely to the way it was demoed by the Meyer staff, I think.

You can read a short review in my previous post on the subject Meyer Lina in Sugarland, TX (http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,163492.msg1504992.html#msg1504992)

Justice,
Thanks for the link.

your post said you may try to setup a demo in Tulsa this summer?
I'm like 2hrs south of Tulsa. I'd love to come.
Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: eric lenasbunt on July 11, 2017, 09:12:16 pm
I'll never forgot the Meyer demo from the 2015 Infocomm show. They were showing off the new Leopard line (I think it was those). I had just been blown away in the Danley room, and proceeded to talk to those down to earth southern boys for a bit. Then also was super impressed with Martin MLA. Then went into the Meyer room and it was all black and everyone was wearing black turtlenecks and the room was all listening kiosks and in general just had a feel more like an Apple Store backstage edition. Then some hyped intro, a bunch of crazy EDM tracks that sounded terrible and gave no indicator of the what the music sounded like, then "Leopard....." with a loud whisper. It was so unimpressive and frankly off putting.


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Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Justice C. Bigler on July 11, 2017, 09:30:31 pm
Justice,
Thanks for the link.

your post said you may try to setup a demo in Tulsa this summer?
I'm like 2hrs south of Tulsa. I'd love to come.
I'm trying to get a demo set up. Will probably be August if it happens.


Expect to hear a bunch of classical music, symphonies and operas, and jazz. I'm going to give them specific instructions that I don't want to hear any Infected Mushroom during this demo.
Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Cailen Waddell on July 11, 2017, 10:43:01 pm
I'm trying to get a demo set up. Will probably be August if it happens.


Expect to hear a bunch of classical music, symphonies and operas, and jazz. I'm going to give them specific instructions that I don't want to hear any Infected Mushroom during this demo.

Will they still come? 


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Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Brian Bolly on July 11, 2017, 11:19:07 pm
Oh look, the Danley love-fest has returned yet again to a non-Danley thread.  ::)

I attended the Meyer LINA demo in NYC, and unlike Justice and those at the event in the midwest, walked away pleasantly surprised.  Rig was hung upstage in the Rose Theater, which is about a 1200 seat room that is tall and shallow - about 50' rise from first row orch to last row balc, and maybe 90' deep.

Content was a keynote presentation with talks from Meyer folks, a live jazz quartet performed on deck in front of the PA, and playback.  It was 3x 750-LFC + 8x LINA per side flown, 3x 750-LFC on deck.  They did various configurations with playback, but the majority of the event was just what was in the air.  There was a short comparison at the end with the house rig, which is 11x LEOPARD per side and 5x 900-LFC center block cardioid, all flown.  For the front end: SD10, and Sennheiser/DPA on the quartet (from what I could see).  The quartet sounded natural - effortless, is probably the better description.  You could easily hear the pedal changes on the piano, or when the bassist dug in a little more to the upright, or the dynamics of the drums from brushes to sticks.  The vocalist, if you closed your eyes, sounded as if she was standing 3 feet in front of you.

I likely heard similar tracks from other demos, but the difference is I know the tracks - I know what they sound like, how they should sound through a PA, and most importantly, how they shouldn't sound.  The bottom line is this: LINA gives back what you put into it.

For anyone that's ever done a show in it, Rose Hall has a midrange "thing" - if you get too heavy into it with level, the room will come back at you.  Did the demo get to that volume?  A couple of times, and yes, with one of the Infected Mushroom tracks (with both LINA and the house rig).  Did I expect it?  Yes.  Did it sound exactly like I expected?  Yes.

As a comparison to MINA, the physical size of the box is where it ends.  It's a different box - headroom, output, frequency response.  For those that know Meyer products, MINA was the transition product between the M-series (MILO/MICA/M'elodie) into the LEO family.  LINA completes the size range of the LEO family, and if I had a crystal ball I'd expect the MINA to become a legacy product next year.

The 750, for its size and weight, is very impressive.  I'd like to hear it a bit more in other applications, but its a good compact sub.
Title: Re: anybody heard Meyer LINA ?
Post by: Justice C. Bigler on July 12, 2017, 05:37:54 pm
Will they still come?  (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji6.png)


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They will if they want me to buy $2 million in PA gear from them for the city at some point in the medium future.   ;)