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Title: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Jeff Stielau on June 25, 2017, 10:39:01 pm
Didn't see a current / quick answer for this anywhere.

Curious what others are using for the latest/greatest ( not breaking the bank ! ) Router OR wireless access point ( WAP ) for basic iPad control of their consoles  ( Soundcraft Vi1 & family ) in my case. 

May even need one for wireless access to the Lake Processors in our Lab Gruppen amps.

Seems the market is flooded with options these days.

Any advise appreciated !
Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Rob Spence on June 25, 2017, 11:06:37 pm
Didn't see a current / quick answer for this anywhere.

Curious what others are using for the latest/greatest ( not breaking the bank ! ) Router OR wireless access point ( WAP ) for basic iPad control of their consoles  ( Soundcraft Vi1 & family ) in my case. 

May even need one for wireless access to the Lake Processors in our Lab Gruppen amps.

Seems the market is flooded with options these days.

Any advise appreciated !

How big is the bank?

Lots of solutions at about $100.

I am building a few hundred dollar system for my festival work.

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Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Andrew Broughton on June 26, 2017, 01:11:33 am
I use 3:

WRT54GC - compact and portable, sits in the bottom of my bag and with me always. Good for short distances and very convenient. Saved my bacon many times.
WRT54GS - flashed with DD-WRT which among other things, allows me to up the power output to 250mW, so it has great range, but only 2.4G
Ubiquiti NanoStation M5 - 5Ghz long-range AP for more critical and long-distance usage.
Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Scott Holtzman on June 26, 2017, 01:55:45 am
I use 3:

WRT54GC - compact and portable, sits in the bottom of my bag and with me always. Good for short distances and very convenient. Saved my bacon many times.
WRT54GS - flashed with DD-WRT which among other things, allows me to up the power output to 250mW, so it has great range, but only 2.4G
Ubiquiti NanoStation M5 - 5Ghz long-range AP for more critical and long-distance usage.

Increasing broadcast power only changes half the path.  The return path is often the weakest link in the chain.
Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Andrew Broughton on June 26, 2017, 02:04:37 am
Increasing broadcast power only changes half the path.  The return path is often the weakest link in the chain.
Of course. Still get great range though. Certainly better when I upped it's power...
Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Jeff Stielau on June 26, 2017, 08:51:52 am
I use 3:

WRT54GC - compact and portable, sits in the bottom of my bag and with me always. Good for short distances and very convenient. Saved my bacon many times.
WRT54GS - flashed with DD-WRT which among other things, allows me to up the power output to 250mW, so it has great range, but only 2.4G
Ubiquiti NanoStation M5 - 5Ghz long-range AP for more critical and long-distance usage.

I have one of these older G series Linksys routers....a bit clunky and big.

The Ubiquiti M5 looks small and more current technology.

Is the M5 easy to set up ?    Plug it and search it's specified network , enter password and go ?     Or do you have to configure it first with the Airmax OS software they show on their website?

https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/nanostationm/

Thanks in advance for your help !

Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Keith Broughton on June 26, 2017, 09:18:52 am
I have one of these older G series Linksys routers....a bit clunky and big.

The Ubiquiti M5 looks small and more current technology.

Is the M5 easy to set up ?    Plug it and search it's specified network , enter password and go ?     Or do you have to configure it first with the Airmax OS software they show on their website?

https://www.ubnt.com/airmax/nanostationm/

Thanks in advance for your help !
I had no end of trouble setting up a Ubiquity M5 Bullet.
Gave up and tossed it.
Bought a used Netgear WNDR3400.
Perfect!
Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Andrew Broughton on June 26, 2017, 11:05:43 am
Is the M5 easy to set up ?    Plug it and search it's specified network , enter password and go ?     Or do you have to configure it first with the Airmax OS software they show on their website?

It's easy enough, but for some baffling reason it's not just plug-and-play. Every other router I've used typically you plug in, browse to it's IP, change a password and it just works. The M5 (and other Ubiquiti) are not that way. You power on, browse to it's IP and have to make some changes before it will work. It has no "wizard" like consumer grade stuff does.
Luckily there are people that have posted the required changes on the net that are needed to make them work.
I've no idea why they don't make the default settings the correct ones to make it "just work".
Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Mike Caldwell on June 26, 2017, 03:35:40 pm
For off the shelf wireless routers I have had excellent results with both a TP Link Archer C7 (about a $100) and a Netgear R7000 (about $150).
I operate both only on 5g.


There are times I feel I get touch more range with the TP link.
I use them with a Allen Heath QU Pac 32.

Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Nathan Riddle on June 26, 2017, 03:58:58 pm
I love my Linksys WRT1700AC with DD-WRT flashed on it. Working beautifully on QU24 with all band members on QU-You apps, Client-Bridge network to the local wifi for internet, network cables to amps, dsp, speakers, etc.

Plenty of horsepower. Amazon for ~100 warehouse deal.
Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Rob Spence on June 26, 2017, 06:50:17 pm
I got a Ubiquiti Unifi AC Mesh recently and I plan to mount it on a tall mic stand and plug it into one of my Netgear routers with their radios off. Should be good for 400'.


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Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Kemper Watson on September 03, 2017, 06:39:08 pm
For off the shelf wireless routers I have had excellent results with both a TP Link Archer C7 (about a $100) and a Netgear R7000 (about $150).
I operate both only on 5g.


There are times I feel I get touch more range with the TP link.
I use them with a Allen Heath QU Pac 32.

Just went with  the Netgear R700 (AC1900).. It may be called a Nighthawk in some markets.. Much faster than anything else I had so far
Title: Re: Best current WAP/Router for any consoles and Lab Gruppen amps these days
Post by: Rob Spence on September 04, 2017, 10:36:14 am
I got a Ubiquiti Unifi AC Mesh recently and I plan to mount it on a tall mic stand and plug it into one of my Netgear routers with their radios off. Should be good for 400'.


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So, got things mounted up. I used a top hat and mounted the bracket for the AP and a mic mount for my paddle (for a remote speaker). Now I can easily get both up 10+'.


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