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Title: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Steve Alves on December 19, 2016, 08:23:25 am
I have been looking at low lying fog machines for awhile. Happened to go to a TSO show last week and whichever one they are using seemed to work pretty well. Any thoughts or suggestions on machines to look at or stay away from? Not really looking to use a co2 one but some of the all in ones are interesting.
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Brook Hovland on December 19, 2016, 09:21:53 am
I have been looking at low lying fog machines for awhile. Happened to go to a TSA show last week and whichever one they are using seemed to work pretty well. Any thoughts or suggestions on machines to look at or stay away from? Not really looking to use a co2 one but some of the all in ones are interesting.


We have some Antari ICE machines and have had good results if you don't want to mess with dry ICE or C02.
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Tim McCulloch on December 19, 2016, 10:41:10 am
I have been looking at low lying fog machines for awhile. Happened to go to a TSA show last week and whichever one they are using seemed to work pretty well. Any thoughts or suggestions on machines to look at or stay away from? Not really looking to use a co2 one but some of the all in ones are interesting.

TSA?  I've accused them of practicing "security theatre" at the airports but I've never seen a whole show.

If you mean Trans Siberian Orchestra... I can tell you it involves liquid CO2.

Most of the ground-hugging fog effects traditionally involve dry ice, hot water, fans and big hoses.
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Steve Ferreira on December 19, 2016, 11:43:50 am
I have this Ultratec Unit. http://www.ultratecfx.com/Products/low-lying-fog/dry-icer Works great for weddings and such. How big of a space are you trying to cover?

Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Rob Gow on December 19, 2016, 01:11:33 pm
I have a Chauvet Nimbus dry ice machine. It works pretty good.

http://youtu.be/vu9ZzZGY3Gs
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Steve Alves on December 19, 2016, 02:49:37 pm
TSA?  I've accused them of practicing "security theatre" at the airports but I've never seen a whole show.

If you mean Trans Siberian Orchestra... I can tell you it involves liquid CO2.

Most of the ground-hugging fog effects traditionally involve dry ice, hot water, fans and big hoses.

Duhh.... I fixed it.. That will teach me to read news stories prior to posting.

So TSO is using the co2 machines?? Do you know which ones?
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Steve Alves on December 19, 2016, 02:52:00 pm
I have a Chauvet Nimbus dry ice machine. It works pretty good.

http://youtu.be/vu9ZzZGY3Gs


I have a Nimbus. The problem is they are not very cue friendly. The second you load them, even with the arm up.. You get effect. I need something that I can cue to start without it fogging while it is being loaded.
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Jeff Lelko on December 19, 2016, 04:32:58 pm
So TSO is using the co2 machines?? Do you know which ones?

Yes, I'd too be curious to hear how they pull off their effects!
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: John Chiara on December 19, 2016, 05:39:22 pm
I have been looking at low lying fog machines for awhile. Happened to go to a TSO show last week and whichever one they are using seemed to work pretty well. Any thoughts or suggestions on machines to look at or stay away from? Not really looking to use a co2 one but some of the all in ones are interesting.

I thought years ago there was a home brew setup for running chemical fog through a cooling unit.
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: duane massey on December 19, 2016, 07:45:11 pm
If you're doing a small stage and want a short-term effect I used to use the ADJ Mr Kool. Uses regular ice, regular fog fluid. If you're a DIY person, you can just get a large Igloo chest, cut a hole on each end towards the top, fill it halfway up with either ice or dry ice, and use almost any fog machine. Won't be as thick or heavy as CO2 but can be effective.
In the 80's we built our own dry ice machine, using two 55gal barrels stacked. The top barrel held the ice and dispersion tubes, bottom had heating elements and a pump. A remote relay triggered the pump and sprayed the hot water on the dry ice, and the water drained back into the bottom tank to be reheated. We could use it 2-3 times a night on a large stage and generate 2-4' high layers of fog. PITA, but very, very efeective.
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Steve Alves on December 19, 2016, 11:23:38 pm
I am looking for a higher end solution. Lets put a 10K budget on it. Recommendations?
Title: Re: Low Lying Fog
Post by: Cailen Waddell on December 19, 2016, 11:42:58 pm
Glaciator.  They aren't small but quite effective.  http://www.martin.com/en-us/product-details/jem-glaciator-x-stream


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