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Title: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Sunil Kumar on March 27, 2014, 08:39:23 am
Dear Friends ,
                       We want to buy a Quality Line Array System for all type of Corporate Events ,Venues like Big Ballrooms & open Lawns . System will be used for Speech , Live Bands , Dj Parties &  Cultural Shows . Our Preference will be (1)Outline - Butterfly ,(2) Nexo- STM , (3) D&B - Q/T Series , (4) L-acoustics- Kara , Smile Mainly We are looking for a Compact System .

Awaiting for Quality Suggestions !!!
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Ray Aberle on March 27, 2014, 02:51:52 pm
Dear Friends ,
                       We want to buy a Quality Line Array System for all type of Corporate Events ,Venues like Big Ballrooms & open Lawns . System will be used for Speech , Live Bands , Dj Parties &  Cultural Shows . Our Preference will be (1)Outline - Butterfly ,(2) Nexo- STM , (3) D&B - Q/T Series , (4) L-acoustics- Kara , Smile Mainly We are looking for a Compact System .

Awaiting for Quality Suggestions !!!
Sunil,

Your question carries alot of buckshot behind it. First of all, several of these brands have been discussed on here many times in the past, and a search of the forum will yield great results.

(insert obligatory conversation about whether or not you really *need* a line array system...)

There's a lot of things we'd need to know before being able to steer you in the right direction. Budget, first of all. Do you have existing infrastructure for productions or will this budget need to include that as well? (Like... racks, cases, amps, consoles, monitors, snakes, cabling, motors, trucking, power distribution, etc.)

One size doesn't always fit all either. A system for speech may be different then one for DJ parties, and something that works indoors won't work outdoors...

Just a lot of variables to take into consideration here--

Ray
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Art Welter on March 27, 2014, 03:19:59 pm
Mainly We are looking for a Compact System .

Awaiting for Quality Suggestions !!!
Sunil,

If you happen to be in the USA, check this system out:

http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/topic,148591.0.html

I am selling it because I'm downsizing, but it has served well for all the types of events you have mentioned.

Art
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Peter Morris on March 28, 2014, 10:12:56 pm
Dear Friends ,
                       We want to buy a Quality Line Array System for all type of Corporate Events ,Venues like Big Ballrooms & open Lawns . System will be used for Speech , Live Bands , Dj Parties &  Cultural Shows . Our Preference will be (1)Outline - Butterfly ,(2) Nexo- STM , (3) D&B - Q/T Series , (4) L-acoustics- Kara , Smile Mainly We are looking for a Compact System .

Awaiting for Quality Suggestions !!!

FWIW to my ears the d&b Q is a very ordinary sounding box in 2014, but I would put the new V series on your list, its excellent.
 
I have not heard the new JBL double 10 box VTX  V20 but I would certainly have a look.
 
We have a Lake LM26 driven Turbosound Flex which I can highly recommend. Turbosound has just been purchased by Music Group which I suspect will be great for their MI range of boxes, but Pro end where its all about passion and not so much about ROI NFI :-\
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: John Moore on March 28, 2014, 10:21:34 pm
We purchased this ....  http://www.rcf.it/en_US/products/touring-and-theatre/ttl11a (http://www.rcf.it/en_US/products/touring-and-theatre/ttl11a)

We have used in corporate events at Marriotts, Ballrooms, etc. with over 1000 in the room and this system kicks ! It is also steerable in the vertical plane...the subs are killer.


Easy to set up and great sight lines too....




Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Brad Weber on March 29, 2014, 10:54:15 am
Dear Friends ,
                       We want to buy a Quality Line Array System for all type of Corporate Events ,Venues like Big Ballrooms & open Lawns . System will be used for Speech , Live Bands , Dj Parties &  Cultural Shows . Our Preference will be (1)Outline - Butterfly ,(2) Nexo- STM , (3) D&B - Q/T Series , (4) L-acoustics- Kara , Smile Mainly We are looking for a Compact System .
If you already have your preferred systems ranked in order then I'm not clear on what you are asking.
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Ray Aberle on March 29, 2014, 10:57:42 am
If you already have your preferred systems ranked in order then I'm not clear on what you are asking.
Missed options they've not considered?
Our preference between the listed systems?

I dunno, cos Sunil hasn't been back since the initial post. =\

-Ray
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Al Rettich on March 29, 2014, 11:18:14 am
After just having been on a Outline - Butterfly system, I and I think the rest of the audio folks will never use that system again. The Nexo is a good product, I'm really fond of the d&b T10's. Small but powerful. I've done a cosmo expo with 4500 women with sixteen a side. Off of two T motors. Flew it up high, tilted it down, no one even knew it was there.
Dear Friends ,
                       We want to buy a Quality Line Array System for all type of Corporate Events ,Venues like Big Ballrooms & open Lawns . System will be used for Speech , Live Bands , Dj Parties &  Cultural Shows . Our Preference will be (1)Outline - Butterfly ,(2) Nexo- STM , (3) D&B - Q/T Series , (4) L-acoustics- Kara , Smile Mainly We are looking for a Compact System .

Awaiting for Quality Suggestions !!!
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Loren Aguey on April 05, 2014, 02:20:10 pm
After just having been on a Outline - Butterfly system, I and I think the rest of the audio folks will never use that system again. The Nexo is a good product, I'm really fond of the d&b T10's. Small but powerful. I've done a cosmo expo with 4500 women with sixteen a side. Off of two T motors. Flew it up high, tilted it down, no one even knew it was there.

T10's are great, with the added benefit of having rotatable horns for point source applications.

Meyer M'elodie should perhaps also be considered.
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Ivan Beaver on April 05, 2014, 05:12:00 pm
T10's are great, with the added benefit of having rotatable horns for point source applications.

Meyer M'elodie should perhaps also be considered.
How does having the horn rotatable change the application?
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Loren Aguey on April 05, 2014, 05:29:17 pm
How does having the horn rotatable change the application?

I think you know what I mean. All I'm saying is that the T10 is a more versatile box because you can use it as a point source box if the situation ever necessitated it. That may or may not be applicable to the OP and his gigs but I was speaking generally.
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Mac Kerr on April 05, 2014, 05:33:59 pm
How does having the horn rotatable change the application?

It is not just a rotatable horn, it is a combination of horn and diffuser that changes the pattern from 15x105 in line array mode to 35x90 in point source mode.

Mac
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Simon Lewis on April 06, 2014, 03:19:54 pm
Mac,

The T10 front grille does indeed act as diffuser but the horn does rotate (without use of tools or need for grille removal) as well.

Simon
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Mac Kerr on April 06, 2014, 03:40:07 pm
Mac,

The T10 front grille does indeed act as diffuser but the horn does rotate (without use of tools or need for grille removal) as well.

Simon
Noted.

Mac
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Travis.Riddle on April 08, 2014, 11:47:15 am
Dear Friends ,
                       We want to buy a Quality Line Array System for all type of Corporate Events ,Venues like Big Ballrooms & open Lawns . System will be used for Speech , Live Bands , Dj Parties &  Cultural Shows . Our Preference will be (1)Outline - Butterfly ,(2) Nexo- STM , (3) D&B - Q/T Series , (4) L-acoustics- Kara , Smile Mainly We are looking for a Compact System .

Awaiting for Quality Suggestions !!!

I would consider checking out the AL4 by VUE Audiotechnik. One 8 box array weighs in at just 150lbs. Can be flown from anything and they are mechanically and digitally steerable. They come with amps, all mounting hardware for any application, and the dsp software, right out of the box! I just heard some a few weekends ago and for the price they blow away anything else I have used. PM me if you want more information about them!
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: Eddy Houk on April 09, 2014, 10:29:58 pm
Would you be interested in DB Technologies DVA T4? I have 12 for sale.
Title: Re: Line Array System for Corporate Events
Post by: John Rutirasiri on April 09, 2014, 11:34:47 pm
My go-to box for corporate events is the EAW NTL720.  For an average show of 1000 people in a 25000 sq ft ballroom, usually 6 hang per side is plenty.  It is small, light (47 lbs), has wide horizontal dispersion, very good low freq pattern control, and sounds like a studio monitor -- very clear. 

The only thing I don't like is the hardware.  The buttons that release the claws which cling to the cabinet above it tend to break, get jammed, or not spring back over time.  You have to remove and fly one cabinet at a time rather than a set of 4 because of the latching mechanism  -- the cabinets can't pivot around locking pins.

Fly bar is very expensive...$2700 each.

Aside from the hardware, the speakers and electronics have been bulletproof.

JR