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Title: Uh, WOW?? New wash fixture maybe....
Post by: duane massey on September 09, 2013, 11:21:16 pm
http://www.americandj.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ItemNumber=2205&MainId=2&Category=L.E.D.

430 watt LED matrix thingie. I'm sure others are also in the works from other companies.
Title: Re: Uh, WOW?? New wash fixture maybe....
Post by: Cailen Waddell on September 09, 2013, 11:37:19 pm
http://www.chauvetlighting.com/nexus-4x4.html

http://www.elationlighting.com/PressDetail.aspx?ID=259

Yup. Adj is not late to the game but is certainly jumping on a bandwagon that already exists.
Title: Re: Uh, WOW?? New wash fixture maybe....
Post by: duane massey on September 10, 2013, 12:06:41 am
Thanks, Cailen. The Chauvet "list" is $ 1959, "street" is $ 1400. ADJ "list" is $ 1400, I'm guessing "street" will be under $1000, and it's using 30w LED's. Let the LED wars continue.....

Have you seen any of these guys yet? No pricing on the Elation, but I am certain it is out of my normal clients' budgets. The ADJ might have a few applications, possibly the smaller of the DOTZ series, but the Matrix looks like a really cool fixture at it's price point.

Now if they will just put one on a moving yoke....
Title: Re: Uh, WOW?? New wash fixture maybe....
Post by: Cailen Waddell on September 10, 2013, 07:28:22 am
I have seen the nexus. It has a diffusion filter in front so that you can't see the reflector or source which I think makes it different than the adj which I have not seen. Makes it look a little like a heavily frosted lamp. I find the whole genre really interesting, but it raises a lot of control questions.

I find the built in effects lacking.  They can be easily pixel mapped on desks that have that capability, but at 4 or 5 channels a pixel your dmx universes fill up quickly.  The whole paradigm in console pricing right now is per output... I wonder if some of these very dense channel count fixtures will change that or bring prices down...

I am not sure that these have much of an application except where they face the audience... But then they make great eye candy.  I would love to have a dozen of any of them for gigs.

There are a couple moving yoke fixture that have dense pixel count video type square panels on them so these large pixel panels can't be far behind.

Chauvet has a 3x3 panel that is part of their Dj line that is also an interesting little item. 
Title: Re: Uh, WOW?? New wash fixture maybe....
Post by: duane massey on September 10, 2013, 07:52:06 pm
I can see a potential use for stage washes, especially at the price point. Certainly eye candy material as well, but I'm thinking 2-3 fixtures on a medium size stage strictly for RGB wash use.

I can also see using these as wash fixtures on a dance floor, especially when competing with a bunch of bigger movers.
Title: Re: Uh, WOW?? New wash fixture maybe....
Post by: John Fruits on September 11, 2013, 04:36:38 am
Since you mentioned matrix thingies on a yoke, there is the Magic Panel 602 LOL.
http://www.morpheuslights.com/products.php?type=1
There are links to some youtube demos, how about a 5x5 matrix of 6x6 matrix thingies and unlimited pan and tilt to boot.  No idea of street price on these.  Ah well, now back to the real world.
Title: Re: Uh, WOW?? New wash fixture maybe....
Post by: duane massey on September 11, 2013, 08:44:43 pm
Thanks, John, cool products, but I suspect just one of these guys would cost more than the total lighting budget for most of my clients. Technology is moving so far so fast I am really feeling old. Of course, I am old....