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Title: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Al Rettich on April 18, 2012, 04:18:24 pm
Went today to inquire about a new MBP. Looking at the 13" 2.4GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5 8GB SDRAM. Not recording directly to the internal HD so a 5400RPM drive was fine. Gave the specs to a Apple guy and he said this wouldn't work. PT10 had to have a i7 chip to work properly. Wanted to ask my fellow audio mates their thoughts.. Will a i5 chip not work?
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Thomas Lamb on April 18, 2012, 04:34:20 pm
Went today to inquire about a new MBP. Looking at the 13" 2.4GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5 8GB SDRAM. Not recording directly to the internal HD so a 5400RPM drive was fine. Gave the specs to a Apple guy and he said this wouldn't work. PT10 had to have a i7 chip to work properly. Wanted to ask my fellow audio mates their thoughts.. Will a i5 chip not work?

I run PT10 on a i5 and a i7 laptop both. ITworks on the i5 wether it is in spec or not im not sure the specs are very vague. http://www.avid.com/US/products/Pro-Tools-Software/support
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: (Brian) Frost on April 18, 2012, 04:37:13 pm
He is simply put, wrong.  It will run it fine and has enough power to get a lot done in pt.



I run PT10 on a i5 and a i7 laptop both. ITworks on the i5 wether it is in spec or not im not sure the specs are very vague. http://www.avid.com/US/products/Pro-Tools-Software/support
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: g'bye, Dick Rees on April 18, 2012, 04:44:25 pm
Gave the specs to a Apple guy and he said this wouldn't work.

Did he ask if you wanted fries with that?
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Al Rettich on April 18, 2012, 04:45:19 pm
Thomas... How much RAM are you running?
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Thomas Lamb on April 18, 2012, 05:00:10 pm
Thomas... How much RAM are you running?
Both machines are stock so I'm pretty sure my i5 is 2 gigs and the i7 is 4. You can never have too much ram though.
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Mac Kerr on April 18, 2012, 05:15:04 pm
Went today to inquire about a new MBP. Looking at the 13" 2.4GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5 8GB SDRAM. Not recording directly to the internal HD so a 5400RPM drive was fine. Gave the specs to a Apple guy and he said this wouldn't work. PT10 had to have a i7 chip to work properly. Wanted to ask my fellow audio mates their thoughts.. Will a i5 chip not work?

According to the Avid ProTools requirements page the computers for PT10 and PT9 are the same, just the system software requirements are different. The i5 seems to be listed as OK:

Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Randall Hyde on April 18, 2012, 05:21:00 pm
Went today to inquire about a new MBP. Looking at the 13" 2.4GHz Dual-core Intel Core i5 8GB SDRAM. Not recording directly to the internal HD so a 5400RPM drive was fine. Gave the specs to a Apple guy and he said this wouldn't work. PT10 had to have a i7 chip to work properly. Wanted to ask my fellow audio mates their thoughts.. Will a i5 chip not work?
As Apple is about to release a new flock of machines, I'd wait a month or so on this purchase.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Keith Broughton on April 22, 2012, 07:24:06 am
On a similar subject, I just purchased a new Macbook Pro 15 i7, 4  gig RAM for recording live shows.
Do you need a 7200 drive for recording or will a 5400 work and will USB 2 be fast enough?
A bit new at this end of things....
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Jelmer de Jong on April 22, 2012, 09:28:56 am
On a similar subject, I just purchased a new Macbook Pro 15 i7, 4  gig RAM for recording live shows.
Do you need a 7200 drive for recording or will a 5400 work and will USB 2 be fast enough?
A bit new at this end of things....
USB2 will give you a maxium 30MB/s. If you know the disired bit- and samplerate you can calculate the channel count.
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Randall Hyde on April 22, 2012, 11:31:13 am
USB2 will give you a maxium 30MB/s. If you know the disired bit- and samplerate you can calculate the channel count.

Yeah, but USB drives will never attain their theoretical maximum speed -- it's always far less than that (this is being written by an ex-USB device driver writer). Also, USB tends to make extensive use the the host CPU -- not something you want happening with a machine being used for recording.

I don't recall if the newest MBP still have firewire (maybe just on the 17", I don't remember). Firewire isn't a whole lot more expensive for the drives and is *much* faster without the load on the host CPU.

If you can wait at all, Thunderbolt drives are finally starting to appear without break-the-bank prices.
Cheers,
Randy Hyde
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Robert "VOiD" Caprio on April 22, 2012, 12:42:12 pm
Dude,

I run PT10 ALL DAY with lots of tracks and all kinds of instantiations of my fave plugin, McDSP Channel G, on my 2009, 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo MBP with 4GB RAM.
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Rob Spence on April 22, 2012, 01:02:48 pm
Dude,

I run PT10 ALL DAY with lots of tracks and all kinds of instantiations of my fave plugin, McDSP Channel G, on my 2009, 2.53 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo MBP with 4GB RAM.
The 15" has the Firewire 800 port (according to the Apple site). I have a 17" and I use an external 1.5tb 7200 rpm drive with a Firewire 800 connection to record up to 32 tracks in from a Dante connection. No problems.

I can even do a virtual soundcheck with it :-)
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Robert "VOiD" Caprio on April 22, 2012, 01:06:28 pm
The 15" has the Firewire 800 port (according to the Apple site). I have a 17" and I use an external 1.5tb 7200 rpm drive with a Firewire 800 connection to record up to 32 tracks in from a Dante connection. No problems.

I can even do a virtual soundcheck with it :-)

Pretty much the same here.  I'm using an Avastor drive.  Bus powered FW800, 7200rpm, 1TB...  I love it.
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Rob Spence on April 22, 2012, 01:15:08 pm
Pretty much the same here.  I'm using an Avastor drive.  Bus powered FW800, 7200rpm, 1TB...  I love it.
Hmm, bus powered disk... I never thought of that !

Which model?
Title: Re: Shocked at the Apple store.
Post by: Robert "VOiD" Caprio on April 22, 2012, 01:40:11 pm
Hmm, bus powered disk... I never thought of that !

Which model?

Avastor PDX-800. Small, fast, all kinds of connections and it's Avid approved.