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Title: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Rich Grisier on April 16, 2010, 04:52:48 pm
I'm about to do some re-racking of equipment and therefore am in the market for some smart ideas.  How you route power, audio and interconnections are of interest.  Please post some pics/links of your rigs!
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Stuart Pendleton on April 16, 2010, 05:06:33 pm
http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/27901/9721/


Should give you something to read for a while.....try a search.  Discussed plenty of times before now.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Rich Grisier on April 16, 2010, 05:15:42 pm
Stuart Pendleton wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 17:06


Should give you something to read for a while.....try a search.  Discussed plenty of times before now.


Thanks for the pointer!  I did search... but a search on Amp Racks, or Racks returns a haystack of results.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Stuart Pendleton on April 16, 2010, 05:19:17 pm
The right search here will include the word "porn"."  My search to find that thread for you was "amp rack porn."  
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS on April 16, 2010, 07:08:55 pm
Stuart Pendleton wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 14:19

The right search here will include the word "porn"."  My search to find that thread for you was "amp rack porn."  


This is the internet, every search is for PORN.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: John Cameron on April 16, 2010, 07:35:42 pm
2-way foh with 4 monitor mix.

index.php/fa/29518/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Mario Data on April 16, 2010, 07:48:23 pm

FOH and amp. All connections are on the front of the amp rack.  I makes setup a lot faster for me.


index.php/fa/29519/0/



Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: David Haulman on April 16, 2010, 09:13:57 pm
here"s mine!
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: (BJ) Benjamin Fisher on April 16, 2010, 09:29:17 pm
I dont think mine are good enough to post on here haha. That other thread Stuart linked is great though
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jordan Wolf on April 16, 2010, 10:05:18 pm
benjamin fisher wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 21:29

I dont think mine are good enough to post on here haha.

I know you're being a bit facetious, but...

Sure they are!  Just because they're not all neat n' tidy or full of the latest amps and processing doesn't mean you can't be proud of them.  I say post some pics and, at the least, you'll get pointers on how to make sure everything is wired, organized, and placed properly.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Gerry Seymour on April 16, 2010, 10:07:46 pm
On that note, I'll post a pics of mine, as soon as I finish the, um, customization. I have a feeling some of you are going to get some flashbacks to the days before you could buy all the neat rack organizers and mounting hardware.  Embarassed
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on April 16, 2010, 10:32:32 pm
Here's my "Lounge" rig for when I'm home:

Racks and such:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/LAB-1.jpg

Speakers:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/LAB-2.jpg

"Big" FOH:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/LAB-4.jpg

Otherwise, this is what I spend most of the year behind:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/HarfordSound/LAB-3.jpg



Evan
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: (BJ) Benjamin Fisher on April 16, 2010, 11:07:56 pm
Jordan Wolf wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 21:05

benjamin fisher wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 21:29

I dont think mine are good enough to post on here haha.

I know you're being a bit facetious, but...

Sure they are!  Just because they're not all neat n' tidy or full of the latest amps and processing doesn't mean you can't be proud of them.  I say post some pics and, at the least, you'll get pointers on how to make sure everything is wired, organized, and placed properly.

Fine. Pretty basic, I dont have any pics of the rear, but once I finally build new racks with rear rails, I will make a nice patch panel. Crossover is now in my FOH Rack. Nady Rack lights are just from my old setup. Although they are SKB cases, I'm really glad to have them over my old home made wood ones, and I got a killer deal on two 10ru's.
http://i43.tinypic.com/ztcab7.jpg
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Joe Brugnoni on April 17, 2010, 12:13:34 am
I guess its time for a new thread and new porn Smile

I am able to lave the back on so it is one less lid to find and reinstall when I am tierd Rolling Eyes

index.php/fa/29541/0/





Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim Padrick on April 17, 2010, 03:42:09 am
RYAN LOUDMUSIC JENKINS wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 18:08

Stuart Pendleton wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 14:19

The right search here will include the word "porn"."  My search to find that thread for you was "amp rack porn."  


This is the internet, every search is for PORN.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kuc
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Mario Data on April 17, 2010, 09:53:54 am
benjamin fisher wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 22:07

Jordan Wolf wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 21:05

benjamin fisher wrote on Fri, 16 April 2010 21:29

I dont think mine are good enough to post on here haha.

I know you're being a bit facetious, but...

Sure they are!  Just because they're not all neat n' tidy or full of the latest amps and processing doesn't mean you can't be proud of them.  I say post some pics and, at the least, you'll get pointers on how to make sure everything is wired, organized, and placed properly.

Fine. Pretty basic, I dont have any pics of the rear, but once I finally build new racks with rear rails, I will make a nice patch panel. Crossover is now in my FOH Rack. Nady Rack lights are just from my old setup. Although they are SKB cases, I'm really glad to have them over my old home made wood ones, and I got a killer deal on two 10ru's.
http://i43.tinypic.com/ztcab7.jpg







The first thing I would do is put 4 screws in each component, not just 2.

Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: (BJ) Benjamin Fisher on April 17, 2010, 12:20:07 pm
Mario Data wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 08:53


The first thing I would do is put 4 screws in each component, not just 2.



No, thats the 2nd thing I am going to do. The first thing to do is get actual SKB screws (or something that will work). None of the cases came with anything to mount with so I had to do a last minute rigging with some hardware left over from my studio racks.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: John Cameron on April 17, 2010, 12:26:21 pm
benjamin fisher wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 12:20

Mario Data wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 08:53


The first thing I would do is put 4 screws in each component, not just 2.



No, thats the 2nd thing I am going to do. The first thing to do is get actual SKB screws (or something that will work). None of the cases came with anything to mount with so I had to do a last minute rigging with some hardware left over from my studio racks.


Ebay is your friend: http://cgi.ebay.com/SKB-19AC1-Rack-Mount-Nut-Retainer-Clips- Screws-Set-12_W0QQitemZ280429407981QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item414ae52eed

John
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: (BJ) Benjamin Fisher on April 17, 2010, 12:27:56 pm
John Cameron wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 11:26

benjamin fisher wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 12:20

Mario Data wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 08:53


The first thing I would do is put 4 screws in each component, not just 2.



No, thats the 2nd thing I am going to do. The first thing to do is get actual SKB screws (or something that will work). None of the cases came with anything to mount with so I had to do a last minute rigging with some hardware left over from my studio racks.


Ebay is your friend:  http://cgi.ebay.com/SKB-19AC1-Rack-Mount-Nut-Retainer-Clips-  Screws-Set-12_W0QQitemZ280429407981QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item414ae52eed

John

Yeah I've seen them on there and other places, but $20 for 3 rack spaces? What a joke. When I find a cheaper, more reasonable alternative I will do the swap
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jake Scudder on April 17, 2010, 06:17:38 pm
benjamin fisher wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 12:27

John Cameron wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 11:26

benjamin fisher wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 12:20

Mario Data wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 08:53


The first thing I would do is put 4 screws in each component, not just 2.



No, thats the 2nd thing I am going to do. The first thing to do is get actual SKB screws (or something that will work). None of the cases came with anything to mount with so I had to do a last minute rigging with some hardware left over from my studio racks.


Ebay is your friend:   http://cgi.ebay.com/SKB-19AC1-Rack-Mount-Nut-Retainer-Clips-   Screws-Set-12_W0QQitemZ280429407981QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item414ae52eed

John

Yeah I've seen them on there and other places, but $20 for 3 rack spaces? What a joke. When I find a cheaper, more reasonable alternative I will do the swap


You are right there.  The faster you can move away from SKB, Gator, and other plastic cases the better.  It may not be cheaper but it will definitely be more reasonable to invest in some better cases.  There are numerous threads here discussing sources for these.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim Padrick on April 17, 2010, 08:40:56 pm
Tis a work in progress:

index.php/fa/29551/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim McCulloch on April 17, 2010, 09:21:13 pm
Aaaaarrrrrggggg..

Has it been 6 months already?
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Mac Kerr on April 17, 2010, 09:35:38 pm
Tim McCulloch wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 21:21

Aaaaarrrrrggggg..

Has it been 6 months already?


No, not yet.

Mac
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on April 17, 2010, 10:10:40 pm
Tim McCulloch wrote on Sat, 17 April 2010 21:21

Aaaaarrrrrggggg..

Has it been 6 months already?


C'mon Tim! Let's see those shiny IT racks and Vertec rigs. Smile Last time you posted a rack, it was full of Crest Pro 01 amps! Razz



Evan
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim McCulloch on April 17, 2010, 11:06:08 pm
We still have the Crests powering the S-4ish rig.

And a bunch of ITechs in Blackhust/Stage Gear shock racks, most with Schubert RedBox audio and data i/o panels.  Nothing special about any of them.... at least, nothing special in the world of regional or touring production.

That's why these are pr0n threads.  The posts by Derick S on his breakin/out panels, or your posts on building & wiring an IEM rack are very cool, but pics of racks by themselves are just exploitive.  And every time you exploit a rack, god kills a kitten.  Please, think of the kittens!

Have fun, good luck.

Tim Mc
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Joe Brugnoni on April 18, 2010, 07:46:11 pm
 Laughing
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Matt Vivlamore on April 18, 2010, 08:59:25 pm
Here is my current Amp Rack; 2 8 space racks. Top rack is a 4 monitor mix using 2 XTi4000. Bottom rack is for the Mains, IT4000 on the tops, IT8000 on the subs.
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/1watt%20LEDs/DSC01844.jpg


My FOH rack; 01V96, Presonus D8, SLX wiress, 1231 (on the mains). Tablet PC for Lights.
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/1watt%20LEDs/DSC01853.jpg

The Lighting rig; 2 LED 420-B and 4 Par575 cans, 1W version & RBGAW.  On the tree is LED-420B & 1 Par575 (pointed at the drummer) with 1 can on the floor per side.
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/1watt%20LEDs/DSC01826.jpg
http://i351.photobucket.com/albums/q460/mattvivsound/1watt%20LEDs/DSC01824.jpg
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jeff Wheeler on April 18, 2010, 09:05:53 pm
Not to pick on Matt or those performers at all, but I noticed an illuminated EXIT sign above the door behind the drum kit.  If someone asked me to setup in such a location, I would refuse to do the gig, and I would lose a customer over it if I had to.  As far as I know it is totally illegal to block such an exit, and even if it seemed safe, any kind of inspector could jump on it.  Am I right to think this way?
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Steve Hurt on April 18, 2010, 10:25:49 pm
Where on the floor are the 2 cans.  

Nice minimal footprint light rig, btw!
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim Padrick on April 19, 2010, 03:37:44 am
Jeff Wheeler wrote on Sun, 18 April 2010 20:05

Not to pick on Matt or those performers at all, but I noticed an illuminated EXIT sign above the door behind the drum kit.  If someone asked me to setup in such a location, I would refuse to do the gig, and I would lose a customer over it if I had to.  As far as I know it is totally illegal to block such an exit, and even if it seemed safe, any kind of inspector could jump on it.  Am I right to think this way?


Depends.  Usually there are exit minimums, depending on the room capacity and the layout.  If the minimums are met even with a particular exit blocked, you might meet code.  Still not a good idea.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Gerry Seymour on April 19, 2010, 07:59:49 am
And I don't think the lighted sign is supposed to be on over a blocked exit. The whole point of the sign is for folks to be able to find the way out if the room starts to fill up with smoke or the other lights are out, etc. Pointing folks to a blocked exit is very bad mojo.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Joe Brugnoni on April 19, 2010, 08:38:53 am
Great looking rig Matt!!

I noticed that the monitor rack had all the connection at the top and the FOH rack looked like they are the bottom.  Has one worked out better than the other?
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Rick Stansby on April 19, 2010, 11:56:01 am
index.php/fa/29588/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Matt Vivlamore on April 19, 2010, 05:30:44 pm
Jeff Wheeler wrote on Sun, 18 April 2010 21:05

Not to pick on Matt or those performers at all, but I noticed an illuminated EXIT sign above the door behind the drum kit.  If someone asked me to setup in such a location, I would refuse to do the gig, and I would lose a customer over it if I had to.  As far as I know it is totally illegal to block such an exit, and even if it seemed safe, any kind of inspector could jump on it.  Am I right to think this way?


Tim Padrick wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 03:37


Depends.  Usually there are exit minimums, depending on the room capacity and the layout.  If the minimums are met even with a particular exit blocked, you might meet code.  Still not a good idea.


Gerry Seymour wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 07:59

And I don't think the lighted sign is supposed to be on over a blocked exit. The whole point of the sign is for folks to be able to find the way out if the room starts to fill up with smoke or the other lights are out, etc. Pointing folks to a blocked exit is very bad mojo.


There is a Exit about 5' infront of the speaker stack... and a few more around the building.  The double doors leads to a Wrap around deck, which is ajoined by the other doors.

This venue is a place that no one that 15 or so locals hang out at (the band can pack a 500 person room 15 miles away, but can fill this 100 person venue).  
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Matt Vivlamore on April 19, 2010, 05:34:32 pm
Steve Hurt wrote on Sun, 18 April 2010 22:25

Where on the floor are the 2 cans.  

Nice minimal footprint light rig, btw!



They are sitting behind the speakers.


Here is a "profile" shot of the light set-up.
index.php/fa/29604/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jeff Wheeler on April 19, 2010, 06:16:17 pm
Matt Vivlamore wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 16:30

There is a Exit about 5' infront of the speaker stack... and a few more around the building.  The double doors leads to a Wrap around deck, which is ajoined by the other doors.

Yeah, but the illuminated EXIT sign is still there over an exit that is effectively blocked and obstructed by trip hazards, some of which are owned by you.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Lee Patzius on April 19, 2010, 09:35:09 pm
Jeff Wheeler wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 18:16

Matt Vivlamore wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 16:30

There is a Exit about 5' infront of the speaker stack... and a few more around the building.  The double doors leads to a Wrap around deck, which is ajoined by the other doors.

Yeah, but the illuminated EXIT sign is still there over an exit that is effectively blocked and obstructed by trip hazards, some of which are owned by you.


Dude... Get over it.




Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim Padrick on April 20, 2010, 02:01:14 am
Rick Stansby wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 10:56

index.php/fa/29588/0/


Nobody likes a smartass!  Very Happy
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Matt Vivlamore on April 20, 2010, 10:08:22 pm
Joe Brugnoni wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 08:38

Great looking rig Matt!!

I noticed that the monitor rack had all the connection at the top and the FOH rack looked like they are the bottom.  Has one worked out better than the other?



It doesn't make that much of a difference between the top Vs bottom for rack plates for me. I built the racks at different times.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: (BJ) Benjamin Fisher on April 20, 2010, 10:11:58 pm
Matt Vivlamore wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:08

It doesn't make that much of a difference between the top Vs bottom for rack plates for me. I built the racks at different times.

So, front or back? Preferences? Discussion?
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Daniel Nickleski on April 20, 2010, 10:22:19 pm
benjamin fisher wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:11

Matt Vivlamore wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:08

It doesn't make that much of a difference between the top Vs bottom for rack plates for me. I built the racks at different times.

So, front or back? Preferences? Discussion?



All on the back with us. We do lots of outdoor festivals so we can put the front rack door on before we tarp for the night. Feel like the racks are better protected from the elements that way. Also it looks WAY cleaner to have no cables in front of the racks. When the show is done unpatch the back of the racks and roll them out of the way. Gives you more room to wrap up cables.

Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: (BJ) Benjamin Fisher on April 20, 2010, 10:29:05 pm
Daniel Nickleski wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:22

benjamin fisher wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:11

Matt Vivlamore wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:08

It doesn't make that much of a difference between the top Vs bottom for rack plates for me. I built the racks at different times.

So, front or back? Preferences? Discussion?



All on the back with us. We do lots of outdoor festivals so we can put the front rack door on before we tarp for the night. Feel like the racks are better protected from the elements that way. Also it looks WAY cleaner to have no cables in front of the racks. When the show is done unpatch the back of the racks and roll them out of the way. Gives you more room to wrap up cables.



I agree on ease and cleanliness. Its how I planned to do it when I get around to making patch panels, I just saw a few people with them in front and found it interesting and wondered why
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Steve Hurt on April 20, 2010, 10:37:47 pm
I do a lot of tight stages and the back of the rack is hard to access at a show more often than not so I put my in/out panels on the front of my rack.  

I can't remember the last show I was able to see my amps from FOH!

Not saying it's the right way for everyone by any means, just throwing out why someone might do it the other way.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Daniel Nickleski on April 20, 2010, 10:44:25 pm
Steve Hurt wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:37

I do a lot of tight stages and the back of the rack is hard to access at a show more often than not so I put my in/out panels on the front of my rack.  

I can't remember the last show I was able to see my amps from FOH!

Not saying it's the right way for everyone by any means, just throwing out why someone might do it the other way.



If you find it easier to have them in the front that is cool. I think the key is what works for you. We are on mostly portable stages so access to the back isn't much of an issue.

And I'm not saying you can see the racks from FOH, but you can see them while stand in front of them backstage. I like the clean look with no cable mess and I have even had a client or two comment on the clean look.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: sndguy (Joel Ashcraft) on April 21, 2010, 01:13:38 am
"All on the back with us. We do lots of outdoor festivals so we can put the front rack door on before we tarp for the night. Feel like the racks are better protected from the elements that way. Also it looks WAY cleaner to have no cables in front of the racks. When the show is done unpatch the back of the racks and roll them out of the way. Gives you more room to wrap up cables."


+1
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: sndguy (Joel Ashcraft) on April 21, 2010, 01:16:08 am
Yeah, nice job.   That is the way to add lighting to a sound rig (minimally, with effectiveness - is that a word?).


Joel
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Joe Brugnoni on April 21, 2010, 08:06:46 am
I am with Steve, it seems that a lot of gigs we are pushed into a corner  and access for me to the back of a rack, at a lot of gigs, can be difficult,

That is why I opted to make mine all front access, I kept the panels at bottom bottome to try to keep the mess down and be able to hide excess under the rack if possible. It has worked ok so far.

Hey Matt, do you remember which rack you built first? I was wondering if that drove the decision  to move down or up?

I am not picking on you at all, I am just very curious as I have seen both systems.  Mine have always been at the bottom so I can hide cords and such under the bottom amp. The power distro in the racks always ends up so bulky, I try to put it low to minimize cord length out of the case and bends.

Like I said, I leave the backs on as it is one less cover to find and If I use "help" they cant get in the back and plug in wrong Smile

Great comment Lee!!
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Gene Hardage on April 21, 2010, 01:36:33 pm
OK you inspired me to take some pics of a few things.  Here is my club rig/monitor rack for the A system.  It's not pristine - the wires are  a bit unruly - but it's fast and easy.  Let's call her BERTHA like her momma before her.  Her momma had heavy QSC's on the bottom and a Mackie on top but thanks to this forum I have seen the light and moved uptown to see the Wizard.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/RRrackFrontOPEN.jpg

At least the speakons are on the front even if you do have to dig aound back to plug the mics in.  The lids are "guillotine" style and by far the quickest and easiest solution.  They don't take up much room when you remove them and they are fine for poeple like me who do all my own work and never let gorillas near my junk.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/RRrackFrontCLOSED.jpg

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/RRrackBackOPEN.jpg

Just grab the handles - tilt it back on the wheels and go.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/RRrackBackHANDLES.jpg

Now - onward to another item that comes in handy for people like me who carry several guitars to every gig.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/GuitarRackCLOSED.jpg

That's a standard Strat case with the guitar rack next to it.


Pull the guillotine cover off and it's ready to erect.  Laughing

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/GtRackSTEP1.jpg

It's like the one I bought from Viking Cases years ago but I've modified it.  It's now smaller - lighter - sturdier - and a little cheaper too.  

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/GuitarRackEMPTY.jpg

Finally with a few geetarz...

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q372/GeneHardage/WIRES/GTrackWgts.jpg
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Joe Brugnoni on April 21, 2010, 01:49:14 pm
Did you position the head of the guitar to block your plate or did that just work out Laughing
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Matt Vivlamore on April 21, 2010, 06:02:44 pm
benjamin fisher wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 22:11

Matt Vivlamore wrote on Tue, 20 April 2010 21:08

It doesn't make that much of a difference between the top Vs bottom for rack plates for me. I built the racks at different times.

So, front or back? Preferences? Discussion?



I put all the panels in the front of the rack as most of the time the rack is pushed into a corner or up against the wall.

One of these, days I'm going to upgrade the 8sp to a 12sp and put some rack fans in the top to suck the air out and i would be able to leave the back door on (plus there is going to be 3 amps per rack).
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Bill Burford on April 21, 2010, 06:14:26 pm
I see a lot of situations where people keep their driverack / speaker management system close to the stage and amps..
the only input I have is that I keep mine up by the board.
I've always wondered what the effect of having the 100 foot run before the driverack would be as opposed to having it after the drive rack--- other than any line-loss would be subtracted from the output as opposed to from the input..  I wonder what is better?  probably at the stage.  that figures.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Bill Burford on April 21, 2010, 06:20:21 pm
Yeah, the back of my board rack is too much of a birds-nest to show on this site.  I'd be embarrassed.
too many 4-channel single spacers in their.. a couple of 2 channel pieces.. a cheap furman.. even with the wire-ties, there are just cables everywhere.  its only an 8 space yet its super heavy without a single amp in it.. or I'm just weak.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Bill Burford on April 21, 2010, 06:25:31 pm
Nice Stuff.

I mix on an allen & heath wz3 16 channel.  it doesn't look impressive.
one of my amp racks looks ok with the XTi's in it.. but then, I don't want to post pics because it just announces I use XTi's for subs.
They really worked really well when new but I think the heat from the current is slow-cooking the output circuits and they are getting a little "tamer"..
I WISH I had an ITech.

your gear looks pretty sweet.  I'd hire you.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Daniel Nickleski on April 21, 2010, 09:49:07 pm
Bill Burford wrote on Wed, 21 April 2010 17:14

I see a lot of situations where people keep their driverack / speaker management system close to the stage and amps..
the only input I have is that I keep mine up by the board.
I've always wondered what the effect of having the 100 foot run before the driverack would be as opposed to having it after the drive rack--- other than any line-loss would be subtracted from the output as opposed to from the input..  I wonder what is better?  probably at the stage.  that figures.



There is no actual difference between the two in terms of audio. The main reason we keep out DSP in the amp racks is because we have different FOH and Speaker setups so the DSP travels with it's amp/ speaker setup. Plus when we are running a digital FOH we don't need racks out front. Hope that makes sense.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jake Scudder on April 22, 2010, 01:13:12 am
Bill Burford wrote on Wed, 21 April 2010 18:20

Yeah, the back of my board rack is too much of a birds-nest to show on this site.  I'd be embarrassed.
too many 4-channel single spacers in their.. a couple of 2 channel pieces.. a cheap furman.. even with the wire-ties, there are just cables everywhere.  its only an 8 space yet its super heavy without a single amp in it.. or I'm just weak.


Sometimes even with proper mults and cable management there still isn't much you can do.  Maybe this will make you feel better.  Plus it's something a little out of the ordinary for most of the rock and roll guys to look at.


index.php/fa/29671/0/


The other side is a little cleaner.


index.php/fa/29672/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Bill Burford on April 22, 2010, 10:28:14 am
that looks BEAUTIFUL compared to mine..
ha ha..
if you saw mine.. you'd laugh.. maybe I'll take some pics today.
one rack looks ok.. the other one... yikes.
its a small rig.. lower lower end of medium at best.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Gerry Seymour on April 23, 2010, 08:52:15 am
Bill Burford wrote on Thu, 22 April 2010 09:28

that looks BEAUTIFUL compared to mine..
ha ha..
if you saw mine.. you'd laugh.. maybe I'll take some pics today.
one rack looks ok.. the other one... yikes.
its a small rig.. lower lower end of medium at best.


Don't worry,  Bill. I've promised to post pics of my rig. Yours will look expensive, sleek, and well-organized by comparison.  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Stephen Snipes on April 23, 2010, 10:09:44 am
nothing like you guys but it makes my life easier when I have
a bunch of wireless mics and multiple DJs plugged up.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2186/218/70/11205330/n11205330_33181182_9814.jpg
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jordan Wolf on April 23, 2010, 04:32:40 pm
Stephen  Snipes wrote on Fri, 23 April 2010 10:09

nothing like you guys but it makes my life easier when I have
a bunch of wireless mics and multiple DJs plugged up.

Hey, it's a start!  Keep on improving from there and upgrade as you can.  It's how you use what you have that makes you a "good" engineer or not.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Cody Hazelwood on April 24, 2010, 06:59:25 pm
My FOH Rack.  Power down the left side, audio down the right.  I plan on moving everything down 1 space and putting some lights at the top when I get some cash, but for now I'm using a $10 RadioShack book light..... it gets the job done.

I keep my Rane G4 Gates and Alto compressors in a separate smaller rack that I can travel with when needed.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8527/20100423222114.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/29/20100423221842.jpg
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Simon Ryder on April 24, 2010, 08:27:19 pm
That looks seriously like an M3000 in your Lounge rack Evan. It's a little "big league" isn't it?
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Simon Ryder on April 24, 2010, 08:28:15 pm
Nice! Laughing
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jake Scudder on April 24, 2010, 08:33:45 pm
Simon Ryder wrote on Sat, 24 April 2010 20:27

That looks seriously like an M3000 in your Lounge rack Evan. It's a little "big league" isn't it?


While certainly capable of "big league" performance I've never thought the M3000 to be terribly cost prohibitive for a lounge rig.  Then again, I don't have to buy the stuff, I just spin the knobs.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jeff Baumgartner on April 24, 2010, 10:12:39 pm
I have a few Macrotechs......
77 if you want to be precise.
index.php/fa/29714/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on April 25, 2010, 12:41:33 am
Simon Ryder wrote on Sat, 24 April 2010 20:27

That looks seriously like an M3000 in your Lounge rack Evan. It's a little "big league" isn't it?



I like my toys. Very Happy

TC D2
TC M3000
Midas DCX2496 monitor DSP (recently removed)
dbx 1066
BSS DPR504 (recently added)
BSS DPR404


Evan
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim McCulloch on April 25, 2010, 02:53:59 am
Evan Kirkendall wrote on Sat, 24 April 2010 23:41

Simon Ryder wrote on Sat, 24 April 2010 20:27

That looks seriously like an M3000 in your Lounge rack Evan. It's a little "big league" isn't it?



I like my toys. Very Happy

TC D2
TC M3000
Midas DCX2496 monitor DSP (recently removed)
dbx 1066
BSS DPR504 (recently added)
BSS DPR404


Evan


Stop it, you're killin' me!
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Gerry Seymour on April 26, 2010, 09:54:33 pm
EDIT: the img tags didn't work the first time - had to fix.

OK, I promised to make some others feel good about their racks by showing mine.

My FOH rack and table. There are 3 more computers (two Dell laptops and an HP netbook) that go on that table, too. It gets crowded. A second table is added to the right, and that's where the playback laptop goes.
http://dc226.4shared.com/img/274735310/72bf90de/DSCN3091.JPG?rnd=0.8088546540916113

A better view of the front of the FOH rack. Yes, those are E-machines computers mounted into my FOH rack. They add a certain something, don't you think? I think they go nicely with the "boutique shelf" I installed. Much this customization is temporary, but it gets the job done for now. Some paint is in order, though.
http://dc226.4shared.com/img/274735341/78cf540d/DSCN3087.JPG?rnd=0.24763985858697524[/URL]

The mixer and topside spaghetti. Still a bit of neatening to do on Wednesday.
http://dc226.4shared.com/img/274735324/5eff0704/DSCN3088.JPG?rnd=0.6957975085597229

The back of FOH rack. Almost as pretty as the front.
http://dc226.4shared.com/img/274735297/25c0e542/DSCN3092.JPG?rnd=0.36843122707123266

The amp/wireless rack. Need to put some blanks in to fill the empty slots. The receiver on top is for our backup lav. It's not rackable, so it stows in back for transit.
http://dc226.4shared.com/img/274735275/554da9e0/DSCN3094.JPG?rnd=0.692556675283657

Speaking of "in back", the small opening through which I have to grope for connections. I'll be leaving the cables connected wherever possible, and simply stow them in this rack for transit.
http://dc226.4shared.com/img/274735286/4bdce495/DSCN3093.JPG?rnd=0.7893485301046934

Okay, I hope everyone has enjoyed this tour. Hopefully the next time I have to post some pics, you'll see something a bit more professional, in both appearance and function.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Mike McNany on April 27, 2010, 11:20:36 am
I just opened up the trailer and snapped the current racks, recently shifted from a 10 & 12RU rack setup to 4 6RUs, significantly cutting down weight per carry. This is a pic of my FX & Comps and the FOH amp rack fronts.

index.php/fa/29749/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Mike McNany on April 27, 2010, 11:25:07 am
This 2nd pic is the FOH & monitor EQs with single CD player rack and Monitor amp/power rack. The Power strip is a dual circuit 20 amp per side. There is a second same power strip on the back that the front one can plug into when only using 2 vice 4 supplying circuits. I also have a spare PLX1804 in my DJ rack that I can add to the monitor rack if needed.

index.php/fa/29750/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Mike McNany on April 27, 2010, 11:30:54 am
Here's the rear of the FX/comps and the Main Amp racks. Yes, some mess, but the FOH processors are all fed by insert snakes left attached. The amp rack currently only uses 2 of the sdpeakon outs using 4 wire connections to seperately feed the tops and subs. The other 2 speakons were leftover from when the monitor amp was connected. The extra XLR is was a subwoofer input left from when I had the DRPA in the FOH rack.
index.php/fa/29751/0/

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Mike McNany on April 27, 2010, 11:37:46 am
This is the rear of the EQ/CD player rack with I/O panel. Needed the TRS locking jacks for the monitor in from the mixer, although I do have some xlr to trs adapter cables. There are some extra cables tie-wrapped to use the panel for two more EQ channels.

Below that is the back of the monitor amp/power rack showing an I/O panel setup for 4 monitor mixes although only 2 are being used.

index.php/fa/29752/0/

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Dave Bourn on May 02, 2010, 09:41:10 am
Here's my current all-in-one bar band rack.  I wish I had a few more spaces.  This post could also fall under the current channel assignments posts.  I use the blank under the mixer to store the channel strip assignments for bands I do all the time.  The sides of the mixer are good for aux send labels.index.php/fa/29851/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Robert Weston on May 02, 2010, 08:56:39 pm
ok - I'll throw in a few...

Here's what's used for bars/festivals/events/etc...  A Yamaha board with the usual outboards.  The Behringer EQ's are used to help with EQ's on channels (via inserts) as needed.

This is driving a QSC PLX amp rack.

index.php/fa/29863/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jeff Wheeler on May 03, 2010, 12:58:42 am
In my amp racks, instead of having patch panels for signal inputs, I have drive snakes that stow inside of them.  I would like to have panels for the speaker outputs but it's not very high on my wish list yet.  Probably that panel is somewhere below getting rid of the yellow power strip that supplies all but the subwoofers!  Wink

index.php/fa/29883/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: devin Basile on June 16, 2010, 10:51:36 pm
and why would you have a eurodesk power supply in your rack?
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jeff Wheeler on June 16, 2010, 10:56:45 pm
I bet it's for his backup mixer.  Nothing wrong with that!
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Mike McNany on June 17, 2010, 10:34:45 am
Jeff Wheeler wrote on Wed, 16 June 2010 22:56

I bet it's for his backup mixer.  Nothing wrong with that!


Except 15.4# (just looked it up) of otherwise dead weight in that rack. Fine if he decided he needs to work out more  Twisted Evil Me, I'd just rack it in when needed or better yet, put it in it's own little case.

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Dave Bigelow on June 17, 2010, 12:42:31 pm
Sorry for the blurry phone pic

https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo18/15/7b/bab70dba04b1__1276455540000.jpeg

One of the racks I use at home

Power conditioner
DN360
DBX 166 that usually goes in bypass since I don't compress mains but others in the company do

Older Roland reverb
TC Dtwo
REV500
SPX90 or 90II, I;d have to go in the warehouse and unpack a truck to look
Ancient Yamaha delay unit (D1500)
8 channels of B comps
8 channels of B gates
an honest to goodness CD player


If I have time to take better pics of some of the other racks today I will.
Title: Nice Rack
Post by: Jake Scudder on June 17, 2010, 02:40:45 pm
Of all the FOH racks I've had over the years, this is my favorite.  I needed two 20U racks to make the platform for the desk to sit on and I have very minimal outboard gear.  I got to make a rack full of all the stuff you never have enough of.

Top to bottom:

Littlite
Courtesy outlets
Sliding shelf for phone, iPod, Power Mute (bonus points for whomever guesses what that's for)
9pr panel so I can inject signal from FOH
(2) 3U drawers
(2) 4U drawers

index.php/fa/30845/0/
Title: Re: Nice Rack
Post by: Eric Simna on June 17, 2010, 03:03:19 pm
Jake Scudder wrote on Thu, 17 June 2010 14:40

Power Mute (bonus points for whomever guesses what that's for)


Talkback to Mon World?
Title: Re: Nice Rack
Post by: Jake Scudder on June 17, 2010, 03:21:06 pm
Eric Simna wrote on Thu, 17 June 2010 15:03

Jake Scudder wrote on Thu, 17 June 2010 14:40

Power Mute (bonus points for whomever guesses what that's for)


Talkback to Mon World?


No.  In fact, it is not muting audio at all.

Title: Re: Nice Rack
Post by: Tim Weaver on June 17, 2010, 08:33:32 pm
Tap sync for delays?


And BTW, how friggin tall are you that you needed 2 20sp racks for a console stand! Shocked

I'm 6'4" and that would be a little too tall for me. I use a 12/20 space for my 01v and it's just right, but it's also racked so that it sits flush with the top of the rack. I wouldn't want it any taller.
Title: Re: Nice Rack
Post by: Jake Scudder on June 18, 2010, 02:35:18 pm
Tim Weaver wrote on Thu, 17 June 2010 20:33

Tap sync for delays?


And BTW, how friggin tall are you that you needed 2 20sp racks for a console stand! Shocked

I'm 6'4" and that would be a little too tall for me. I use a 12/20 space for my 01v and it's just right, but it's also racked so that it sits flush with the top of the rack. I wouldn't want it any taller.


I'm 6'3".  Keep in mind these are rack inserts only.  Pulled out of their ATA style surrounds. 18U is my preference but the shop only had shallow 18U inserts when we did the build so I went with 20.  Most people wouldn't like it but it saves me a bunch of tendonitis.

Title: Midi Mute
Post by: Jake Scudder on June 18, 2010, 02:41:18 pm
The Power Mute is being used as a midi mute.  Since the desk is triggering QLab I need a way to be able to move around to different snapshots without firing the sound cues.  

The midi connections are all in a booth so an actual midi mute isn't practical.  Instead, we just adapted a standard 5 pin midi cable to XLR, circuited that through two of my dry lines (the 9 pair panel), and used the Power Mute.
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Phil Lewandowski on June 18, 2010, 05:00:58 pm
Well, I've never gotten to take part in the porn fun yet so... I guess I'll post nearly finished racks.


http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/beatmasterphil/FrontofAmprackupdate.jpg


http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/beatmasterphil/BackofAmprackUpdate.jpg



Take Care,
Phil
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Mike McNany on June 19, 2010, 09:27:43 am
Phil,
Two questions.

What did you use for your I/O Panel labeling? Looks great, almost etched?

What's with both the BBE DSP and the U15 Processor?

Mike McNany
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: John Halliburton on June 19, 2010, 10:03:32 am
Mike McNany wrote on Sat, 19 June 2010 08:27

Phil,
Two questions.

What did you use for your I/O Panel labeling? Looks great, almost etched?

What's with both the BBE DSP and the U15 Processor?

Mike McNany


One of these or similar, using black tape that produces white lettering:

http://www.amazon.com/Brother-PT-1880-Advanced-Deluxe-Labele r/dp/B000JVHH9W

I use one to wrap labels around mics, mic cables, stands, etc., and sometimes use clear shrink wrap over that, but IIR, Brother is making some heavier duty label tape stock now too.  Comes in 3-4 widths as well as white and clear.

Best regards,

John
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Phil Lewandowski on June 19, 2010, 01:04:41 pm
Mike McNany wrote on Sat, 19 June 2010 09:27

Phil,
Two questions.

What did you use for your I/O Panel labeling? Looks great, almost etched?

What's with both the BBE DSP and the U15 Processor?

Mike McNany


Hey Mike,

Yes, John is correct I got a version of a Brother labeler that supported white on clear labeling.


Pretty much, the U15 processor just alone isn't powerful enough for what I am doing.  The U15 does have a specific EQ, but of course I probably could have measured it with Smaart and then matched it pretty close even with a value DSP like the BBE DS.

But the big reason for the Unity processor is bi-amping the U15s.  It is much easier to bi-amp them with it since it is made specifically for that.  The inputs of the rack go to the DSP.  The L-R high outs of the DSP go to the Unity processor.

That is actually the next thing to pick up; a PLX3002 for the horn.


Take Care!
Phil
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Brad Gibson on June 20, 2010, 02:02:05 pm
Here is my latest creation
index.php/fa/30891/0/
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Joe Brugnoni on June 20, 2010, 05:18:53 pm
WOW  very nice!!


Phil I love the fact that you painted the outlet boxes!!!
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Phil Lewandowski on June 20, 2010, 08:04:25 pm
Joe Brugnoni wrote on Sun, 20 June 2010 17:18

WOW  very nice!!


Phil I love the fact that you painted the outlet boxes!!!


Thanks Joe   Smile

I knew I needed some way to easily power the amps while not going as far as a mounted distro.  Plus I wanted to be able to split them up onto 2 circuits.  

It just kinda worked well out of dumb luck because the EWI rack I had had a bolt at that perfect height on each side that could be unscrewed and then be used to bolt each quad to each side.


Thanks,
Phil
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jared Chrysostom on June 20, 2010, 08:17:44 pm
I'll challenge anyone to an OCD rack-wiring battle.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/krazeekaukazian/SDC10103.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/krazeekaukazian/SDC10102.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/krazeekaukazian/SDC10104.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/krazeekaukazian/SDC10101.jpg
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: devin Basile on June 20, 2010, 09:00:56 pm
nothing wrong unless you are jacked and tan so i guess your saying he is jacked and tan?
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Bill Burford on June 21, 2010, 11:31:59 am
That looks awesome.  I'd love to hear all those GX amps running.  I've got a GX3 I use to power two small Yamahas all the time.  I love it.  Man, thats a lot of GX5's.  I'm super curious how you use them.
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Jared Chrysostom on June 21, 2010, 12:05:52 pm
Bill Burford wrote on Mon, 21 June 2010 11:31

That looks awesome.  I'd love to hear all those GX amps running.  I've got a GX3 I use to power two small Yamahas all the time.  I love it.  Man, thats a lot of GX5's.  I'm super curious how you use them.


The 2 in the 4-space rack are for 4 monitor mixes, pushing 4-5 CM12V's. The one in the rack with the PLX3102 and the connection panel is for the mains, the PLX runs a pair of SRX718's. If I need a bigger amp for mains I'll pull the GX5 and replace it with a PLX3602... But that hasn't happened yet. Great amps.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Chris Blust on June 27, 2010, 09:10:42 am
Here are my racks for my Meyer setup.

FOH is all the way to the left.  Monitors are in the middle.
I set this up to run a pair of UPA's per side in stereo over a 1ea 650 sub per side.  And four independent UM-1C monitor mixes.  I've been doing mostly Acoustic gigs as of late so I am going to reorganize what I need into one rack.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f11/opelgt73/Racks.jpg

Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Hasse Queisser on June 27, 2010, 11:19:53 am
Joe Brugnoni wrote on Sun, 20 June 2010 23:18

WOW  very nice!!


Phil I love the fact that you painted the outlet boxes!!!


The post you replied to was not Phil's, it was Brad's. Could people please reply to the right post. I spent about 5 min looking for painted boxes on Brad's pic before I realised there weren't any...
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Hasse Queisser on June 27, 2010, 11:26:41 am
Bill Burford wrote on Mon, 21 June 2010 17:31

That looks awesome.  I'd love to hear all those GX amps running.  I've got a GX3 I use to power two small Yamahas all the time.  I love it.  Man, thats a lot of GX5's.  I'm super curious how you use them.


There isn't a single GX3 amp in the picture in the post you replied to. Why can't people just reply to the right post?
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Jared Chrysostom on June 27, 2010, 11:49:12 am
Hasse Queisser wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 11:26

Bill Burford wrote on Mon, 21 June 2010 17:31

That looks awesome.  I'd love to hear all those GX amps running.  I've got a GX3 I use to power two small Yamahas all the time.  I love it.  Man, thats a lot of GX5's.  I'm super curious how you use them.


There isn't a single GX3 amp in the picture in the post you replied to. Why can't people just reply to the right post?


He never said there was a GX3 in my pic. He said he has a GX3, and that I have a bunch of GX5's.
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Hasse Queisser on June 27, 2010, 12:01:14 pm
Jared Chrysostom wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 17:49

Hasse Queisser wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 11:26

Bill Burford wrote on Mon, 21 June 2010 17:31

That looks awesome.  I'd love to hear all those GX amps running.  I've got a GX3 I use to power two small Yamahas all the time.  I love it.  Man, thats a lot of GX5's.  I'm super curious how you use them.


There isn't a single GX3 amp in the picture in the post you replied to. Why can't people just reply to the right post?


He never said there was a GX3 in my pic. He said he has a GX3, and that I have a bunch of GX5's.


OK. Let me rephrase that. There isn't a single GX amp in the pic he replied to, only PLX2 amps.
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: devin Basile on June 27, 2010, 03:15:02 pm
he was referring to an earlier posted picture. doesn't really take that much to figure it out if you are following the topic or if you have common scene but lets not assume anything either.
Title: Re: Midi Mute
Post by: Tim McCulloch on June 27, 2010, 03:52:00 pm
devin Basile wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 14:15

he was referring to an earlier posted picture. doesn't really take that much to figure it out if you are following the topic or if you have common scene but lets not assume anything either.


Actually the issue is sloppy reply posts from FLAT VIEW users who simply post replies at the bottom.

Flat view for index, tree view for the topics.  It works more the threaded discussions on UseNet.

Have fun, good luck.

Tim Mc
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jake Scudder on June 27, 2010, 07:36:22 pm
Jared Chrysostom wrote on Sun, 20 June 2010 20:17

I'll challenge anyone to an OCD rack-wiring battle.



OK.


index.php/fa/31008/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Patrick Campbell on June 28, 2010, 12:23:08 pm
New monitor amp rack

Beats the 4 wedges and 250 lb Crown CT-1600 rack with Eq's

index.php/fa/31014/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Thom "Fig" Fiegle on June 28, 2010, 12:46:15 pm
Was using this for a backyard rock party last week ->



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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jared Chrysostom on June 28, 2010, 02:26:09 pm
Jake, you and I would get along just fine. Very Happy  The zip-tying of cable bundles is a lost art.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim McCulloch on June 28, 2010, 02:44:59 pm
Jared Chrysostom wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 13:26

Jake, you and I would get along just fine. Very Happy  The zip-tying of cable bundles is a lost art.


Zip ties are still "nearly this century."  The lost art is the application of lacing cord. Wink
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Jake Scudder on June 28, 2010, 03:22:23 pm
Tim McCulloch wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 14:44

Jared Chrysostom wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 13:26

Jake, you and I would get along just fine. Very Happy  The zip-tying of cable bundles is a lost art.


Zip ties are still "nearly this century."  The lost art is the application of lacing cord. Wink


True enough.  But I'd feel really bad about cutting up someone's hard work when something breaks.  Zip ties are much easier to replace. Wink  

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Further thoughts:  The pictured rack was built for the current Broadway run of "Fences" starring Denzel Washington.  It is the Mult Distro (hub for all i/o) and EQ Rack (2x Galileo plus a spare) all in one.  These are usually two separate racks so space was a little tight with all of the copper.  It had to be condensed to a single rack because ampland was being installed up on a jump in a very small space.

I only did the show build so it was imperative that the production crew be able to look at the back of that rack and have it just "make sense".  Inevitably something will be rerouted or added once on site so neatness and labeling are crucial.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Geoff Doane on June 28, 2010, 08:36:37 pm
Jake Scudder wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 16:22

 True enough.  But I'd feel really bad about cutting up someone's hard work when something breaks.  Zip ties are much easier to replace. Wink  



The trouble with zip ties (or ty-raps) is that they tend to cut up your hands when you're working inside the rack.  No such problems with lacing twine.

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This isn't my work, and when this picture was taken, it was still a work in progress.  Once all the wires are added, the releasable ty-raps will be removed, and more lacing twine added.
Whether using ty-raps or lacing twine, wire bundles can be a work of art.

GTD
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Dan Brown on June 28, 2010, 10:56:56 pm
Patrick Campbell wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 11:23

New monitor amp rack

Beats the 4 wedges and 250 lb Crown CT-1600 rack with Eq's

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Patrick,

That looks like an antenna splitter instead of a combiner in that rack?

The Sennheiser IEM combiners have a air vent in the front
hmmmmm

db
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim Woodworth on June 29, 2010, 06:12:03 pm
 These are our EV TG-7 amp racks for our XLC rig.

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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim Woodworth on June 29, 2010, 06:23:57 pm
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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim Padrick on June 29, 2010, 08:25:41 pm
Tim Woodworth wrote on Tue, 29 June 2010 17:12

 These are our EV TG-7 amp racks for our XLC rig.

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Who's the maker of those racks?
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Tim Woodworth on June 30, 2010, 12:19:06 pm
R&R makes the actual racks

http://www.rrcases.com/rackesp.htm

Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Chad Griswold on July 01, 2010, 02:03:36 am
This is how I have our amp racks confiugred currently.  It's worked pretty well for what we do!

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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: devin Basile on July 01, 2010, 03:52:26 pm
where does one fine the rack mounted hinge doors?
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Scott Smith on July 01, 2010, 05:12:24 pm
OLD SCHOOL!  Not mine... but one of my favorites!  (32) PL6.0's total at stage powering V-DOSC!  Almost 1 TON of amplification! ..Shocked

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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Chad Griswold on July 01, 2010, 07:48:49 pm
Hey Devin,
If you're me you draw it up in Stardraw and send it to Whirlwind to have it made...that's where the ones in the pics came from and tey turned out great!  I have used other custom panel shops for a couple of other projects that did almost the same thing and they just didn't come out quite as nice so I'm willing to pay the little extra $$ to have them done right!
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Post by: Wali Raffiqi on July 02, 2010, 12:05:21 am
Hey Jared,

If you don't mind me asking, where did you get those split AC cords from?

Thanks.
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Post by: Seth Hochberg on July 02, 2010, 12:41:42 am
I can't speak to where Jared got his, however, Hosa makes an IEC "Y" cable that is held in decent regard around here.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/YIE406/

(BTW, you might want to append your full family name to your handle - not sure that just initials are OK with the board rules).

Best regards,
-Seth
Title: Re: RE:
Post by: Wali Raffiqi on July 02, 2010, 08:59:08 am
Thank you sir!

And thanks for the name hint as well. This is the first board i've ever been on that requires your actual full name! Razz
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Post by: Dave Rickard on July 04, 2010, 12:57:37 am
Wali Raffiqi wrote on Fri, 02 July 2010 06:59

This is the first board i've ever been on that requires your actual full name! Razz

It helps keep the place sane.  Wink

Those are Hosa AC cables.
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Post by: Jared Chrysostom on July 04, 2010, 01:04:58 am
Yep, they're from Hosa. I'm not a fan of their signal cables, but they have some amazingly useful power adapters and cables and stuff. The little Y's made my racks much neater and made me much happier. If your local Guitar Center has any left in stock, they should be on clearance for about a buck each.

Hosa also makes a NEMA 5-15 to IEC C13 adapter. If you're running a single amp, or powered speaker, whatever... You plug the little adapter into an appropriate length of extension cord, and bam, it's an IEC power cable. Awesome.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Live-Wire-IEC-F--3-Prong-M--Powe r-Adapter-765449-i1166804.gc
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Post by: Dave Rickard on July 04, 2010, 01:52:49 am
Jared Chrysostom wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 23:04

Hosa also makes a NEMA 5-15 to IEC C13 adapter. If you're running a single amp, or powered speaker, whatever... You plug the little adapter into an appropriate length of extension cord, and bam, it's an IEC power cable. Awesome.

You plug any IEC cable into an appropriate length of extension cord, and bam, it's an IEC power cable. The adapter plus an Edison receptacle will stick out pretty far from the gear and be more vulnerable.  

I prefer short TRS-XLR cables over adapters for the same reason.

Just sayin'   Smile
Title: Re: RE:
Post by: cecil abrego on July 04, 2010, 02:16:51 am
Can those HOSA yie-406 be used safely for amps?
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Post by: Jordan Wolf on July 04, 2010, 02:45:23 am
The highest a standard Edison connector like that (5-15 plug) could be rated for is 15A.  As long as your amp's maximum power requirements fall below that amperage, you should be fine.
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Post by: Wali Raffiqi on July 04, 2010, 09:50:16 am
Thanks for the info fellas!
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Post by: Jared Chrysostom on July 04, 2010, 10:52:00 am
Dave Rickard wrote on Sun, 04 July 2010 01:52

Jared Chrysostom wrote on Sat, 03 July 2010 23:04

Hosa also makes a NEMA 5-15 to IEC C13 adapter. If you're running a single amp, or powered speaker, whatever... You plug the little adapter into an appropriate length of extension cord, and bam, it's an IEC power cable. Awesome.

You plug any IEC cable into an appropriate length of extension cord, and bam, it's an IEC power cable. The adapter plus an Edison receptacle will stick out pretty far from the gear and be more vulnerable.  

I prefer short TRS-XLR cables over adapters for the same reason.

Just sayin'   Smile


My OCD goes the other way. I don't mind the extra length sticking out of the back, because the cable is all nice and uniform.  Very Happy
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Post by: Dave Bigelow on July 11, 2010, 11:44:09 am
The rack I travel with

SDE 1000 (the old)
D-Two (the new)
160
4 channels of B* comps
8 channels of b* gates

Just gimmie a 'verb or two and a FOH EQ.

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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Deke Lockrem on July 11, 2010, 12:30:47 pm
What the heck....I'll jump in...
The second pic shows what the back of the rack used to look like. I got tired of all the excess cable. I had those 4 plugged into a quad that just used to sit in the bottom of the case.
The third pic shows the new shorter IEC cables and I mounted the quad with some brackets that I got from an electrician buddy of mine.....alot cleaner look.index.php/fa/31300/0/
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Deke Lockrem on July 11, 2010, 12:31:54 pm
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Post by: Deke Lockrem on July 11, 2010, 12:33:22 pm
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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Pete Sams on July 11, 2010, 03:29:30 pm
Where did you get the rack kit for the edison box? I need something like that for a snake box to rack mount it. I'd like to inset it into the rack a little to make more room for the lid.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Dave Bigelow on July 12, 2010, 12:52:34 am
We've always just mounted the quad boxes to the the sides of the racks to keep them out of the way. Then again all of ours flip up on the back panel when transporting.

Probably has more to do with the fact that they are loaded down to the point where the back panel is full of NL8s for tops and NL4s for subs and a ton of fans plus the twist locks for power though.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Pete Sams on July 12, 2010, 03:40:13 am
I'm more interested in mounting a snake box to some rack rails. It'll be tricky for sure but with the right parts not so bad.
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Dave Bigelow on July 12, 2010, 11:52:37 am
Pete Sams wrote on Mon, 12 July 2010 03:40

I'm more interested in mounting a snake box to some rack rails. It'll be tricky for sure but with the right parts not so bad.


Here ya go

http://www.radialeng.com/rcs/snakes_v12.htm
Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Deke Lockrem on July 12, 2010, 12:25:51 pm
Pete Sams wrote on Sun, 11 July 2010 14:29

Where did you get the rack kit for the edison box? I need something like that for a snake box to rack mount it. I'd like to inset it into the rack a little to make more room for the lid.

Im not sure what they are called, but I would check some of the electrical supply stores in your area. I know that they are used for mounting all types of elec boxes in stud walls. The brackets have two seperate parts that slide into one another so that they are adjustable for different stud spacing. The tabs you see on the sides actually fold down flat, so you can adjust them as well.
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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Henning Fjeld on September 23, 2010, 03:06:19 pm
This is my FOH rack. 01v96VCM, ADA8000, DEQ2496 and a feedback destroyer I never use..

I tried to find the smallest rack possible. Only problem is that I have to connect and disconnect the ADAT cables and powercable on the 01v96 because it is REALLY thight..

I also have modified my ADA8000 so it`s inputs and outputs are on the backside patchpanel.

I made a powerbox today so I only need one powercable to power the whole rack.

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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Patrick Campbell on September 27, 2010, 12:55:07 pm
Here is FOH, my main FOH amps rack and IEM Monitor rack (other monitor rack is Crown CT-1600's and dual 31 band)


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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Patrick Campbell on September 27, 2010, 12:56:24 pm
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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Patrick Campbell on September 27, 2010, 12:57:08 pm
Monitors


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Title: Re: Let's see your RACKS! FOH & AMP
Post by: Phil Ouellette on September 29, 2010, 10:17:06 pm
Geoff Doane wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 20:36

Jake Scudder wrote on Mon, 28 June 2010 16:22

 True enough.  But I'd feel really bad about cutting up someone's hard work when something breaks.  Zip ties are much easier to replace. Wink  



The trouble with zip ties (or ty-raps) is that they tend to cut up your hands when you're working inside the rack.  No such problems with lacing twine.



Not if your using one of these.

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Controlled tension and the cut end is retracted below the surface of the pawls (no cutting up your hand).

Anybody who would trim a nylon wire tie with a diagonal cutter needs to find another job.