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I hope I'm not overlooking an easy answer to this, because I'd feel really silly, but here goes.
I'm running a reverb on AUX6->FX1->ST1 , and Mono (tap) delay on AUX7->FX2->ST2. But the delay is "dry" since it goes straight to LR.
What I'd like to do is feed the delay into the reverb so the delays have reverb also, but I can't find a way to rout FX2 into FX1. Is this easy to do? What am I missing?
Thanks in advance.
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I hope I'm not overlooking an easy answer to this, because I'd feel really silly, but here goes.
I'm running a reverb on AUX6->FX1->ST1 , and Mono (tap) delay on AUX7->FX2->ST2. But the delay is "dry" since it goes straight to LR.
What I'd like to do is feed the delay into the reverb so the delays have reverb also, but I can't find a way to rout FX2 into FX1. Is this easy to do? What am I missing?
Thanks in advance.
Dave,
If you can route ST2 to Aux 6, that would get you there.
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Also, I forgot to mention that it's possible to insert FX2 into AUX6, but I'd like to be able to easily mute the delay and keep the reverb.
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Also, I forgot to mention that it's possible to insert FX2 into AUX6, but I'd like to be able to easily mute the delay and keep the reverb.
You can either mute the Aux Send (to catch phrases with the FX, but not allow other material to cloud the FX tail(s)) or you can mute the return channel (thus stopping the effect outright by not allowing it to get through the mains).
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ST2 cannot be routed to an AUX.
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I hope I'm not overlooking an easy answer to this, because I'd feel really silly, but here goes.
I'm running a reverb on AUX6->FX1->ST1 , and Mono (tap) delay on AUX7->FX2->ST2. But the delay is "dry" since it goes straight to LR.
What I'd like to do is feed the delay into the reverb so the delays have reverb also, but I can't find a way to rout FX2 into FX1. Is this easy to do? What am I missing?
Thanks in advance.
A lot of the factory reverbs have adjustable delays in them. Couldn't you just modify a factory reverb to do what you need or are you looking a delay that can be adjusted by the tap function on the fly?
Douglas R. Allen
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On the fly.
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ST2 cannot be routed to an AUX.
Sure it can. Just select Aux 6 and use the ST2 encoder knob to adjust your send level.
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Not to be dense, but I can't figure out how to route ST2 to AUX6.
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Not to be dense, but I can't figure out how to route ST2 to AUX6.
Think of it just like you would send any channel to Aux 6. Press the Aux 6 button then use the ST2 level knob to adjust the amount of ST2 signal sent to that Aux. It's just like if you were sending ST2 to the Stereo Master Bus but your faders are set on the Aux 6 layer and not Home. Make sure that ST2 is on and that its Aux 6 send is enabled too. If you're running Studio Manager you can open the selected channel view for ST2 and do it there too.
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Thanks Eric! That worked.
I also needed to remove it from the stereo mix from the standard routing menu.
It's interesting that YAMAHA didn't provide a simple way to serially connect the FX processors. Must be a reason somewhere.
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I also needed to remove it from the stereo mix from the standard routing menu.
I'm curious why you wouldn't also want the dry delay signal in your stereo mix? Are you not running the mix setting on your reverb effect at 100%? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the type of delay effect your going for?
Anyway, glad it's working for you. :)
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I'm pretty sure I heard latency artifacts in the delayed sound when it was in both buses.
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I'm pretty sure I heard latency artifacts in the delayed sound when it was in both buses.
Are you saying you heard latency artifacts when you had both these paths enabled
Aux 7 > Delay > Aux 6 Reverb > LR, and
AUX 7 > Delay > LR ?
If so, it makes sense to me that chaining the FX's would add additional latency and what you heard is correct.
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That is what I'm saying.
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That is what I'm saying.
Is the delay set for 100% wet?
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That is what I'm saying.
It seems like when I measured this console that a pass through the FX inserted an additional delay (regardless of the wet/dry setting in the FX slot), so what you are hearing matched what I measured.
Edit: I measured .14ms for latency introduced by the effects unit at 96KHz. I did the measurement last summer. Probably fairly hard to hear this without headphones, even then...