Tim Weaver wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 11:42 |
I bought a storage unit full of sound gear. In it was some JRX 115 cabs that had these woofers in them. One looks factory, but the other has a horrible recone job on it that the spider has come loose. I can't figure out what they are in order to know if I want to keep them or not. Maybe someone here can help!?! First the factory looking cone.... Notice the lack of any identifying marks. Completely flat back on the magnet. Nice cast basket. Factory looking cone. Number on the back of the factory looking cone. OK, here is the front and back of the bad recone job. The cone fits, but whoever installed it botched it pretty bad. Backside showing number. Thats it! Thanks for playing, and the winner receives a lifetime supply of good karma! -=Tim=- |
Tim Weaver wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 13:54 |
Looks like we have a winnah! Thanks Art. This community owes you a lot, due to your almost infinite knowledge of the old and arcane ways of sound reinforcement. Do you or anyone else know if the 15B cones will fit in the 15L frames? This L needs a recone and it would be nice if I could have a pair of B's instead of a mismatch like I've got now..... |
Art Welter wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 16:15 | ||
Thanks. They are identical magnet structures and frames, you can recone as a "B" or an "L". |
Mike Smith wrote on Wed, 13 October 2010 06:33 |
They are not EV -- or at least if they are, EV changed their basket tooling. The terminals should sit on a sort of "bridge" between two basket spokes, not on that square cast tab. The spoke profile is similar to EV's but not identical. The magnet back plate doesn't have the proper holes for mounting EV's famous finned magnet cover. The "15B" cone appears to have a progressive surround, which again may be a newer EV style but not one with which I am familiar. The "15L" cone has a double half roll surround, which is also incorrect, but you already knew it was a recone. PAS used to make some similar looking speakers, but I think most of that series had 3" voice coils instead of EV's 2.5". Regarding the basket design, more recently there is a flood of Asian-sourced knock-offs that use what is basically open tooling. It would be fun to cut up one of the ones you have and take a closer look inside. |
Mike Smith wrote on Wed, 13 October 2010 05:33 |
They are not EV -- or at least if they are, EV changed their basket tooling. The terminals should sit on a sort of "bridge" between two basket spokes, not on that square cast tab. The spoke profile is similar to EV's but not identical. The magnet back plate doesn't have the proper holes for mounting EV's famous finned magnet cover. The "15B" cone appears to have a progressive surround, which again may be a newer EV style but not one with which I am familiar. The "15L" cone has a double half roll surround, which is also incorrect, but you already knew it was a recone. PAS used to make some similar looking speakers, but I think most of that series had 3" voice coils instead of EV's 2.5". Regarding the basket design, more recently there is a flood of Asian-sourced knock-offs that use what is basically open tooling. It would be fun to cut up one of the ones you have and take a closer look inside. |
Ia1n Macd0nald wrote on Thu, 14 October 2010 12:17 |
Tim, Those drivers look like mid 1980's EVM OEM. Back then, EV also produced OEM versions for guitar/bass cab companies. eg Mesa Boogie, Trace Elliot etc. They made 10/12/15/18" They didn't have any EV identifying mark on them. Just a serial number and production code. Iain. |
Tim Weaver wrote on Wed, 20 October 2010 23:21 |
Bingo. Here is a pic of a PAS made SWR driver. It's an 18, but it clearly shows the same basket spokes and terminal tab design. |