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Title: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Bob.Witte on April 04, 2006, 01:22:03 PM
My family is slowly switching from PC/Windows to MAC. Most software we use is readily available for the Mac and OS-X.  Smile

However, worship lyric projection is a bit of a problem. We have our own worship band that travels to various churches and I would like to have a laptop ready for projection at those churches I can plug into.

Yes, I could use Keynote or Power Point, but I would rather have a solution like Song Show Plus (since we use it at our Church and I have a large song database already) or some other projection application made specifically for worship lyrics projection. We move pretty freely around in a song and using PPT or Keynote would be a challenge for following the verses and chorus's of a song.

My searches for this have come up a bit empty.  Crying or Very Sad

Does anyone else have any good ideas?
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Bob.Witte on April 05, 2006, 04:18:58 PM
Well, Apple just announced Boot Camp that lets you set up a partition for Windows XP, with all of the key drivers and then have a dual boot system on an Intel based MAC.

IF the video driver gives full access to dual monitor support, DirectX support through Windows, this may be a solution.

Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Kevin Hoober on April 06, 2006, 04:00:57 PM
Bob,
MediaShout is getting very close to releasing a Mac version--saw it working last weekend (studentlife conference).  But until then try ProPresenter; I, personally am not a fan, but it is all I know of in Mac world at the moment.  I use MediaShout on a PC.

Kevin
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Bob.Witte on June 09, 2006, 12:55:31 PM
Well MS is no longer doing a MAC version - sigh.

I now own a copy of MS and will be stuck with WINDOWS for awhile - double sigh.

Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Mac Kerr on June 09, 2006, 04:59:36 PM
As your family slowly switches, has anyone switched to a Mac with an Intel chip? Currently the iMac, MacBook, and MacBook Pro, all have dual core Intel chips, and can run Windows XP natively. Since you will have some Windows machines going out of service, you can use the Windows OS from them on your new Mac, and continue using the lyric display software you like. Boot Camp from Apple requires you to reboot into Windows, but then you are truly running native. Parallels (I think that's the name) allows you to run Windows XP in a window of Mac OSX, but you have to pay for it, Boot Camp is free. The MacBook is only $100 more than an iBook was, for way more performance, unless you need to run intense 3D graphics, in which case you would be better off with the MacBook Pro.

Mac
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Bob.Witte on June 13, 2006, 01:28:31 PM
YUP - bootcamp is the alternative - still have to reboot into Windows. We do use moving backgrounds etc. so I believe the Pro versions would be the only ones to consider with there much greater video capabilities. Can you even "extend" the desktop on the MacBook? Was hoping to stay away from Windows, even on the Mac platform - therefore my "sigh".

Thanks Mac for the Mac advice! It's nice to see you Kerr Smile
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Mac Kerr on June 13, 2006, 07:02:05 PM
Bob.Witte wrote on Tue, 13 June 2006 13:28

YUP - bootcamp is the alternative - still have to reboot into Windows. We do use moving backgrounds etc. so I believe the Pro versions would be the only ones to consider with there much greater video capabilities. Can you even "extend" the desktop on the MacBook? Was hoping to stay away from Windows, even on the Mac platform - therefore my "sigh".

Thanks Mac for the Mac advice! It's nice to see you Kerr Smile
Parallels doesn't require a reboot, and moving backgrounds are not intense 3D graphics. You should be fine with a MacBook.

It's nice to see someone knows how to pronounce my last name.  Laughing

Mac
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Kaz Horinouchi on June 18, 2006, 02:11:59 PM
I have been using ProPresenter on the Mac for a while now and it works great for me. Check it out at http://www.renewedvision.com/

Kaz
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Bob.Witte on July 07, 2006, 04:16:33 PM
I haven't heard much about ProPresenter. Anyone else using this and wish to comment on how it works compared to Mediashout, SSP etc. (other than it works on the Mac OS-X platform).

Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Bill.Swaringim on July 08, 2006, 10:26:24 PM
Bob:
ProPresenter from www.renewedvision.com is presentation software created specifically for the MAC platform.  It gives you the flexibility you need to select songs on the fly and 'move around' in songs.  It boosts some cool features for video playback and video under lyrics that presentation software like Easy Worship and Media Shout are finally catching up with.  Most of all it gives you stability that I have found some of the windows based presenters do not.

As with most products, preference does play a big part in how much you will like the product.  You can download a version of ProPresenter from the website above to evaluate it.  

Good luck!
Bill
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Bob.Witte on July 13, 2006, 05:19:09 PM
Well I tried ProPresenter. For displaying purposes it will work OK. I don't like its "Presentation" interface - we move around a song list alot and having to find a song quickly is a must. Once you are in a song, the slide based view is OK.

What I really disliked is how new songs are entered. I tried several methods including the recommended method (from renewed vision) for importing songs from Song Select (copy to clipboard, use New Song from Clipboard). The result was a slide created for each line of the song. Most of the time I want a "slide" per Verse or Chorus - not a slide for each line. So, a song that was normally 4 or 5 slides ended up being 28 slides. I do not have the time or patience to do this much "editing" when I can easily download songs into MediaShout or SongShowPlus with little to no changes or extra time. Unless their is a better way (I asked this at the enewed vision Propresenter forum - which only has a couple of entries in it and no response so far)?

This may be somewhat a personal preference - but is high on my list due to the "time" element.
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: StJohn Gill II on July 23, 2006, 09:08:31 PM
Hey,

I was loking at ProPresenter and also took a look at ProVideo Player. Does anybody know what similar program/s are availiable for windows?

TIA
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: scott s on July 24, 2006, 02:30:19 AM
Got the solution for everything. A program called Live Worship. This program was made from the lack of easy to use programs. It was developed from the users point of view. Greatest thing is that it is cross platform compatible. It can be loaded on either MAC or PC. Very easy to use. The editor window is built into the workspace so no having to switch between windows to make changes. I highly recommend this program over Songshow Plus. I have used songshow for years and I was getting sick of it crashing and all of its short comings. Liveworship is very seamless on a MAC I have not run into any problems at all. http://www.liveworship.com is where you can find it and with a price tag of only $300 dollars there isn't a better choice on the market. If you have any further questions about the software you can email me at scottsoundman@gmail.com. Try the trail version of the software and see what you think.
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Bob.Witte on August 25, 2006, 04:44:00 PM
I recently downloaded it, put the demo through its paces, transferred songs/programs between a Mac and PC - did it all seamlessly.

CCLI Songselect importing is a bit clumsier than SSP (have to edit some stuff), BUT I want the Mac capability and the price is right.

One other area - crossfading between slides works well until you have a slide with a background video - than transitions don't work. Hopefully this will be addressed in a future release.
Title: Re: MAC Projection Software
Post by: Eric Kent on April 07, 2007, 02:10:55 PM
Hey Bob,

I use Propresenter for all of our video playback needs. The new Pro is amazing it is better than any other software out as far as im concerned. To move slides around all you need to do is  apple ,click and drag them where you want them.

Thanks,

Eric Kent
Technical Director
KidStuf
Northpoint Community Church