ProSoundWeb Community

Sound Reinforcement - Forums for Live Sound Professionals - Your Displayed Name Must Be Your Real Full Name To Post In The Live Sound Forums => LAB: The Classic Live Audio Board => Topic started by: Andrew Makinson on March 21, 2021, 11:49:37 AM

Title: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: Andrew Makinson on March 21, 2021, 11:49:37 AM
I need to add decent quality stereo audio input to an M1 Mac mini. I'd love to have something like a peavey usb-p that is for line level inputs. Even something that is 1/8" unbalance like what is built into some older Macs would be fine if it sounds good. Would like to have low cost and not have level knobs that can be bumped between uses, if possible. The $10 things on Amazon are mono which would be acceptable if the audio was clean enough. I'll be coming out of the QL5 into the Mac mini and recording with SoundStudio.
Any suggestions for this?
(If DVS was ready for Big Sur and M1, that could also work. I don't think it's compatible.)
Title: Re: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: Tim Weaver on March 21, 2021, 12:18:27 PM
I need to add decent quality stereo audio input to an M1 Mac mini. I'd love to have something like a peavey usb-p that is for line level inputs. Even something that is 1/8" unbalance like what is built into some older Macs would be fine if it sounds good. Would like to have low cost and not have level knobs that can be bumped between uses, if possible. The $10 things on Amazon are mono which would be acceptable if the audio was clean enough. I'll be coming out of the QL5 into the Mac mini and recording with SoundStudio.
Any suggestions for this?
(If DVS was ready for Big Sur and M1, that could also work. I don't think it's compatible.)


Any number of Dante IO's can do this. Shure Ani4, Atterotech stuff, Neutrik IO. These all use a standalone prgram to set levels and routing. I have an Atterotech something or other and it's been solid.

This option would require you to run DVS or Dante Via as well.
Title: Re: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: Daniel Levi on March 21, 2021, 02:22:17 PM
Cheapest would be the 16bit Behringer interfaces, RCA IN/OUT and they even have a proper ASIO driver if you look around.
The UFO202, UCA-202 and UCA-222
Title: Re: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: Ron Bolte on March 21, 2021, 03:32:14 PM

(If DVS was ready for Big Sur and M1, that could also work. I don't think it's compatible.)

According to Audinate, DVS for M1 will be later this summer. 
I ordered one of these as an interim step, it gives 2x2 Dante to USB compliant audio.  It works with the M1 and I will have other uses for it after DVS is ready.  Definitely more $$ than a simple analog interface though.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AVIO-USB--audinate-avio-dante-2x2-usb-adapter (https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AVIO-USB--audinate-avio-dante-2x2-usb-adapter)
Title: Re: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: Milt Hathaway on March 21, 2021, 05:06:54 PM
The Audinate AVIO Dante 2X2 USB would certainly be my first choice once DVS is compatible.

In the meantime, the Scarlett 2i2 (and probably most of the rest of this line) have TRS 1/4" line inputs that are only adjustable with their Focusrite software.

Oops, the lowest model with the 1/4" line inputs is the Scarlett 4i4.
Title: Re: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: Ron Bolte on March 21, 2021, 05:10:28 PM
The Audinate AVIO Dante 2X2 USB would certainly be my first choice once DVS is compatible.

In the meantime, the Scarlett 2i2 (and probably most of the rest of this line) have TRS 1/4" line inputs that are only adjustable with their Focusrite software.

The 2x2 USB is compatible with the M1 right now.  It uses a USB interface to the computer to give you 2x2 to the Dante network. It would be routed like any other Dante device by another computer running DC.  Once DVS is compatible, you can just use a network interface and get back to 64x64.
Title: Re: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: Andrew Makinson on March 21, 2021, 06:02:08 PM
The 2x2 USB is compatible with the M1 right now.  It uses a USB interface to the computer to give you 2x2 to the Dante network. It would be routed like any other Dante device by another computer running DC.  Once DVS is compatible, you can just use a network interface and get back to 64x64.
Thanks for the help! I might go this route.
Cheapest would be the 16bit Behringer interfaces, RCA IN/OUT and they even have a proper ASIO driver if you look around.
The UFO202, UCA-202 and UCA-222
Will look it this!
Title: Re: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: Riley Casey on March 21, 2021, 07:30:26 PM
Cheap? You don't know from cheap.

https://us.creative.com/p/sound-cards/sound-blaster-play-3
Title: Re: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: John L Nobile on March 21, 2021, 07:53:29 PM
Cheap? You don't know from cheap.

https://us.creative.com/p/sound-cards/sound-blaster-play-3

Holy F#$%! I woulda killed for that in the early 90s/late 80s. Except for the USB part
Title: Re: Usb audio input interface without knobs?
Post by: Tim McCulloch on March 21, 2021, 09:00:27 PM
Cheap? You don't know from cheap.

https://us.creative.com/p/sound-cards/sound-blaster-play-3
https://www.amazon.com/TechRise-External-Adapter-Splitter-Converter/dp/B01J7P0OGI/

Less than $12.  This "new" version has T/R/S mic input for a stereo mic and a T/R/R/S for a headset or phone-style ear buds with mic, and a T/R/S jack for headphones.  This and a $25 Pyle ear set mic can fix 85% of Zoom audio problems.