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Title: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Dave Guilford on June 06, 2021, 03:32:31 PM
Recommendations?  Better than the $100 ones at dicks or Walmart.  Not the $900 online.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 06, 2021, 03:51:57 PM
Recommendations?  Better than the $100 ones at dicks or Walmart.  Not the $900 online.

There's a bit more with canopies than just price.

Size?
Side walls?
Windows?
Canopy material?
Water resistant / water proof?
Steel / aluminum?

If you are not sure what you are looking for, research canopies first.  You may surprised what you actually need and what it may cost.




Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Mal Brown on June 06, 2021, 03:58:45 PM
KD Canopy.  Falls into the buy once, cry once category...
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Tim Hite on June 06, 2021, 04:57:23 PM
KD Canopy.  Falls into the buy once, cry once category...

I just wish they made one with an aluminized roof to reflect some heat away and block more light on my console screen.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Dave Guilford on June 06, 2021, 06:50:07 PM
KD Canopy.  Falls into the buy once, cry once category...

I thought I asked to avoid that haha.  Iím def ready to buy now, and then next year dump $$$ into KD or similar
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Jason Raboin on June 06, 2021, 08:23:36 PM
Undercover has served us well.  Under $400 for a 10x10.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Steve Litcher on June 06, 2021, 08:52:38 PM
ABC Canopy from Amazon is around $300 and included sidewalls and mesh walls. I've had ours for around 4-5 years; it gets used 8-10 times a year and is sill in great shape. The transport/storage bag wore out pretty quickly, but aside from that, the tent itself has been fantastic.

Ironically, the hardware on the ABC has held-up better than our KD stuff did (after massively downsizing operations in 2019, I sold our KD Canopies).
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Jeff Lelko on June 06, 2021, 09:12:26 PM
I have an EZ-Up Eclipse 10x15 that Iíve been very happy with.  Itís not particularly cheap but not $900 either.  Itís held up through several summer storms on a barge in Florida, hence Iím quite impressed with it as any disposable tent would have been torn to pieces.  As with everything, you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Kevin Maxwell on June 06, 2021, 10:33:00 PM
I just wish they made one with an aluminized roof to reflect some heat away and block more light on my console screen.

The white top of the tent acts as a diffuser, it doesnít cut the light by enough for me.

I have been using an M32 for outdoor shows and the trick I found to be able to see the indicators on it is I am using a dark blue tarp (blue on one side and gray on the other) that I tie up like a suspended ceiling in the tent, blue side down. It is a 10x10 foot tent and the tarp is 10x8 foot. It cuts down the light in the tent a lot. It is a very cheap tarp from Harbor freight. I have a backup for when this one tears.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 06, 2021, 11:29:22 PM
I just wish they made one with an aluminized roof to reflect some heat away and block more light on my console screen.
It's all about timing... Kevin responded before me!

We have the same issue.  It's somewhat resolved by adding a tarp to the underside of the tent (at the ceiling/head height).  We use a tarp that is silver on one side and black on the other.  Silver side points up to reflect the rays back to the top of the tent.  The black side (pointing down) absorbs light.  Our tent is 10' x 10'; the tarp is 10' x 10'.  We use bungee cords through the tarp eyelets and attach to the tent frame all the way around.  Takes a few minutes to install, but is well worth it.  Only draw back is the air space between the silver side of the tarp and the top of the tent (insdie) can get rather hot on sunny days. 
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Tim McCulloch on June 07, 2021, 02:42:52 AM
This is the canopy I purchased for myself:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BSLQSVO/
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Kevin Maxwell on June 07, 2021, 08:39:04 AM
The tent we use is mainly for sun shade but can give us a little bit of precipitation protection, remember we never say the R word.

In addition to the tarp rigged as a ceiling I used to use a thin white sidewall because where we did a summer concert series the setup had the sun setting to my left. And after a certain time of the day the sun was coming in from the side and it was annoying. The sidewall helped a bit but it too acted as a lighting diffuser and it didnít let any air in from my left. I usually put the side on in a way that I could move the bottom of it lower and lower as the sun set.

But the people entered to field from my left and I was tired of not being able to see to my left. So a couple of years ago I bought a Sunscreen Fabric Shade Netting 70/80% Shade Cloth Sun Mesh Block. That was 10feet x 6.5feet and it blocked the sun enough that I would still see the screen on the mixer and I could see what was happening to my left and it let the air flow thru it. The only problem I had was on a windy day the netting would bow into the tent but I just used some tie line to minimize that. I was planning on sewing some line thru it but never got around to it. 

I guess I have to pick up some of these.

https://www.amazon.com/Lightspeed-Rick-25-Round-Tuit/dp/B0764KQHL6/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=round+toit&qid=1623069235&sr=8-2
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Kevin Maxwell on June 07, 2021, 08:51:41 AM
The tent we use is mainly for sun shade but can give us a little bit of precipitation protection, remember we never say the R word.

In addition to the tarp rigged as a ceiling I used to use a thin white sidewall because where we did a summer concert series the setup had the sun setting to my left. And after a certain time of the day the sun was coming in from the side and it was annoying. The sidewall helped a bit but it too acted as a lighting diffuser and it didnít let any air in from my left. I usually put the side on in a way that I could move the bottom of it lower and lower as the sun set.

But the people entered to field from my left and I was tired of not being able to see to my left. So a couple of years ago I bought a Sunscreen Fabric Shade Netting 70/80% Shade Cloth Sun Mesh Block. That was 10feet x 6.5feet and it blocked the sun enough that I would still see the screen on the mixer and I could see what was happening to my left and it let the air flow thru it. The only problem I had was on a windy day the netting would bow into the tent but I just used some tie line to minimize that. I was planning on sewing some line thru it but never got around to it. 

I guess I have to pick up some of these.

https://www.amazon.com/Lightspeed-Rick-25-Round-Tuit/dp/B0764KQHL6/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=round+toit&qid=1623069235&sr=8-2

To add to this.

The Sunscreen worked so well for me that I suggested that they get one long enough to hang from the side of the Show Model because for the late afternoon shows we were having problems with the band getting overwhelmed by the heat of the Sun.

The only issue I had was I couldnít get the Show Model people to say it how much wind it could handle before we had to drop the Sunshade. They said it could handle the weight it was the wind they didnít know about. I was thinking we should be fine as long as it was a calm day and if we rigged it with the ability to drop it at a momentís notice. We donít have sudden wind shear events here. And if it is at all windy then the breeze should negate the need for the Sunshade. We have to drop the roof of the Show Mobile if the wind exceeds 30mph anyway.   
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Kemper Watson on June 07, 2021, 09:01:15 AM
Recommendations?  Better than the $100 ones at dicks or Walmart.  Not the $900 online.

I have this.     https://www.eurmax.com/premium-pop-up-canopy.html

Company claims they will always have parts if needed. Mine's maybe 4 years old now and still looks new
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Dan Richardson on June 07, 2021, 09:44:48 AM
ABC Canopy from Amazon is around $300 and included sidewalls and mesh walls.

Seconded. I got an 8x8, in black for the mixer screen issue.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Rick Earl on June 07, 2021, 10:15:29 AM
I just wish they made one with an aluminized roof to reflect some heat away and block more light on my console screen.

You can buy a roof for easy-up from these folks, although not waterproof.
I use their mess inside to reflect some heat, but also to keep flow through the tent.
I am thinking about buying another for a side wall for one event that always cooks us in August.

http://www.silvershademesh.com/Mya_template.html (http://www.silvershademesh.com/Mya_template.html)
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Adam Cooke on June 07, 2021, 02:10:38 PM
Undercover has been really great for me.

I bought their UC-3 10'x10' Popup-Shade w/CRS Polyester Wall Enclosure for $300 in 2012, and it has held up well.
It's very durable, yet reasonably lightweight. Has adjustable peak vents, adjustable roof tightness, great side wall design, and an excellent wheeled carry bag.
Lot's of people ask me what brand it is and where I got it.

Looks like it's on sale for $279 on their website now:
https://getundercover.com/product/undercover-x3-commercial-grade-instant-canopy-with-curtain-walls-wheel-bag/
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Chris Doyle on June 07, 2021, 03:52:14 PM
ABC Canopy from Amazon is around $300 and included sidewalls and mesh walls. I've had ours for around 4-5 years; it gets used 8-10 times a year and is sill in great shape. The transport/storage bag wore out pretty quickly, but aside from that, the tent itself has been fantastic.

Ironically, the hardware on the ABC has held-up better than our KD stuff did (after massively downsizing operations in 2019, I sold our KD Canopies).
I'm so glad to read this.  My band just ordered a 10x20 from ABC Canopy based on the great reviews.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Bob Faulkner on June 07, 2021, 07:07:40 PM
This is the canopy I purchased for myself:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BSLQSVO/
+1
It's been great.


Though, we use sandbags from the Sanbag Store (https://www.sandbagstore.com/)

Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Steve Ferreira on June 08, 2021, 01:07:57 PM
I bought this one about 10 years ago. Still looks great.

https://impactcanopy.com/collections/10x15/products/10x15-m-pop-up-canopy-tent-aluminum-commercial-grade-with-roller-bag
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Tracy Garner on June 08, 2021, 04:03:37 PM
Recommendations?  Better than the $100 ones at dicks or Walmart.  Not the $900 online.

+1 for eurmax.com

Even their cheapest one is commercial level.

Second one would be the Z-shade commercial sold at samsclub
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Kristian Stevenson on June 08, 2021, 05:25:33 PM
We went with the Vitabri from eCanopy (https://www.ecanopy.com/vit-v41020vt.html#pdQaImgModal). We were looking for a waterproof 10x20 with the fast fold design for easy/quick setup (not a bunch of poles and pieces). All corner/joints are user replaceable with a cheap rivet tool. We use 50lb shot bags on each corner and havent had an issue with wind yet after 30+ uses.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Dave Garoutte on June 08, 2021, 05:34:12 PM
+1 for eurmax.com
I like my 8x8 black Eurmax.  I think I may add some a shade cloth side or two.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Brian Adams on June 08, 2021, 07:07:34 PM
+1 for eurmax.com

Even their cheapest one is commercial level.

Second one would be the Z-shade commercial sold at samsclub

Sam's Club seems to have gone back to EZ-UP instead of Z-Shade. I picked one up yesterday, I'll find out next week if it'll be durable enough.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Jeff Lelko on June 08, 2021, 08:12:38 PM
Sam's Club seems to have gone back to EZ-UP instead of Z-Shade. I picked one up yesterday, I'll find out next week if it'll be durable enough.

Itíll probably depend on which consumer level it was built for.  I had a $200 Amazon tent destroyed in about 3 days but have had excellent luck with my current EZ-UP.  I think I paid around $600 for it give or take (10x15 Eclipse model). 
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Brian Adams on June 08, 2021, 11:37:41 PM
Itíll probably depend on which consumer level it was built for.  I had a $200 Amazon tent destroyed in about 3 days but have had excellent luck with my current EZ-UP.  I think I paid around $600 for it give or take (10x15 Eclipse model).

It says "Commercial" on the box, but I'll find out how true that statement is soon enough. It was at the same $200 price point as the EZ-UP's sold at Sam's 10 years ago, but I'm guessing it's not the same quality. I'm certain that it won't hold up as well as the $600 canopies do. I'll let you know if it proves me wrong!

Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Mal Brown on June 09, 2021, 03:19:35 AM
Given I live and gig in the wind surfing capital of the world...  I stand by KD.  I've seen too many easy-ups in the dumpster as a mangled mess.  One of them mine... Do spec it with the wind relief if you like me deal with high winds.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: doug johnson2 on June 11, 2021, 06:50:44 PM
Another vote for Euromax.  My wife bought one two years for use as a vendor at craft festivals.  I am very impressed with it for the price and she can get it up and down by herself.  It survived at least one storm that flattened quite a few other tents.  When the ez-up I have wears out, I will be getting one for myself.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Dennis Wiggins on June 13, 2021, 10:31:07 PM
Another vote for 8x8 Eurmax.  Besides being straight-legged and sturdy, at reasonable cost you can buy replacement tops in many different colors.   

-D
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: John Halliburton on June 14, 2021, 08:31:47 AM
Another vote for 8x8 Eurmax.  Besides being straight-legged and sturdy, at reasonable cost you can buy replacement tops in many different colors.   

-D

FWIW, looks like a price drop on the Eurmax at Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BSLQSVO/

Best regards,

John
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Chris Doyle on June 14, 2021, 10:08:08 AM
ABC Canopy from Amazon is around $300 and included sidewalls and mesh walls. I've had ours for around 4-5 years; it gets used 8-10 times a year and is sill in great shape. The transport/storage bag wore out pretty quickly, but aside from that, the tent itself has been fantastic.

Ironically, the hardware on the ABC has held-up better than our KD stuff did (after massively downsizing operations in 2019, I sold our KD Canopies).
We used our new 10x20 ABC Canopy for the first time this past Saturday and I was impressed.  The frame is really sturdy and the top and sidewalls zip together well.  We were set up in a corner of a parking lot so we just used the back wall and one side wall to block the street.  It did take a little longer to set up being the first time, but that will shorten now that we have the hang of it.  And yeah the storage bag is already wearing out, so we'll be looking for some kind of replacement.  But the canopy itself looked so good that the venue owner wanted the information so he could order one himself.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Kemper Watson on June 15, 2021, 07:09:50 AM
   But the canopy itself looked so good that the venue owner wanted the information so he could order one himself.

I get that reaction every time I set up my Eurmax. The frame is a beast and the canopy looks great. Everyone that has a $100 tent from Wally Mart asks for info..
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Dave Pluke on June 16, 2021, 10:11:03 AM
FWIW, looks like a price drop on the Eurmax at Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BSLQSVO/


Is anyone familiar with this variation of Eurmax?

https://www.amazon.com/Eurmax-Commercial-Outdoor-Zippered-Sidewalls/dp/B07G54PPRF/

Seems like the awning could be an advantage but, since the price is the same, I'm wondering if they economized in the construction?

Dave
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Tracy Garner on June 16, 2021, 11:51:10 AM
Is anyone familiar with this variation of Eurmax?

https://www.amazon.com/Eurmax-Commercial-Outdoor-Zippered-Sidewalls/dp/B07G54PPRF/

Seems like the awning could be an advantage but, since the price is the same, I'm wondering if they economized in the construction?

Dave

Check Eurmax direct on Amazon so you can see the description. Their actual eurmax.com website will tell you the difference between the models. The biggest difference is the frame diameter/shapes. The rest of the price difference is really in your preference in the peripheral items. I dont care for the weight bags much but the sides are the real value. My recommendation is get the best frame you can get. The top and sides are all the same quality.
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: Dave Pluke on July 01, 2021, 10:57:56 PM
FWIW, looks like a price drop on the Eurmax at Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BSLQSVO/


And, I think, yet another price drop. Just ordered this model @ $240. Expect delivery tomorrow.

Dave
Title: Re: Canopy for FOH
Post by: John Lackner on July 26, 2021, 07:14:07 PM
Recommendations?  Better than the $100 ones at dicks or Walmart.  Not the $900 online.
I have an 8x8 Eurmax in Black. One day I missed staking it down soon enough. Wind blew it away and it flipped over twice. Stayed in one piece with hardly a scratch.