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Title: Putting LED color in old fresnels.
Post by: Tim Weaver on December 18, 2017, 08:54:40 PM
So, I'm about to do some set decorating on a smaller stage for our youth band. One idea I had was to recycle a bunch of 6" fresnels we have around here into decorations for the stage. What kind of LED is small enough to place inside a gutted 6" fresnel? I don't need them to be super bright. These would just need to glow and hopefully change color. 

One fixture I've seen that might work is the Chauvet Slimpar 38. The diminsions listed are an 8.3" in width, but I'm guessing that's from knob to knob. If I did this, I'd probably remove the mirror and suspend the slimpar in the fresnel where the mirror used to be. Probably by putting a bolt through each side of the fresnel and threaded into the yoke holes on the slime par.

Does anybody know of any other tiny fixtures that might work? I'm not looking for cheap, but then again, these don't have to be bright, so the cheaper pars are what I'm finding.

I'd love it if there was an RGBAW LED I could use. It would be cool to make these look like a super warm tungsten bulb was inside.
Title: Re: Putting LED color in old fresnels.
Post by: duane massey on December 19, 2017, 12:55:03 AM
Maybe the MEGA Baby Color? ADJ Dotz Par? Maybe the 5P Hex RGBAW, if it would fit?
Title: Re: Putting LED color in old fresnels.
Post by: Tim Weaver on December 19, 2017, 10:09:47 AM
Oh yeah, the baby color looks like a good option! The ADJ fixtures have all the input/output on the sides. I think the fixtures would fit, but I'd never get an xlr plugged in to them without going 90 degrees, and that would be needlessly expensive.

The baby color is nice and compact and has all the controls and stuff on the back. I need to order one and see how I can make it fit!
Title: Re: Putting LED color in old fresnels.
Post by: Jamin Lynch on December 19, 2017, 11:00:19 AM
Chauvet EZ Par Tri 6.

7.1" measured from outside of knobs. The brackets and knobs can be removed

Title: Re: Putting LED color in old fresnels.
Post by: Don T. Williams on December 19, 2017, 03:47:55 PM
Try the ColorKey MicroPar.  The version I have is the HEX, but I think there are RGBA or RGBW version.  If you are not needing DMX control, there are Par38/R40 lamps that are LED with remote "key fob" color control that would easily fit.  A socket can be attached to the reflector of the Fresnel.
Title: Re: Putting LED color in old fresnels.
Post by: Tim Weaver on December 20, 2017, 05:52:10 PM
I'm ordering a couple of the ColorDash Accent Quads to experiment with. I would like to go with a brighter light, but these things have some features that make them particularly useful for this application. They have dmx and power pigtails coming out of the back. This will allow me to have power and data accessible after they are mounted. Plus the menu buttons and screen is on the back too, so right now I'm thinking I might just drill a big hole in the back of each fresnel and let the back of the Colordash stick out of there.

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Title: Re: Putting LED color in old fresnels.
Post by: Tim Weaver on December 20, 2017, 05:53:44 PM
Oh yeah. The inside of my Fresnels is 6.25" in diameter, and about 6" deep.  Not much room to work with...
Title: Re: Putting LED color in old fresnels.
Post by: Jeff Lelko on December 20, 2017, 06:18:06 PM
I don’t have any advice to add, but please share the results.  I’ve been casually contemplating how to get a homogenous look from a SixPar (or similar), and this seems like an interesting idea.  I don’t think it’d be an issue with the Accents, but do you think the confined space would cause any heat-related issues with a more powerful fixture?
Title: Re: Putting LED color in old fresnels.
Post by: eric lenasbunt on January 04, 2018, 12:01:11 AM
Blizzard Hotbox is a 5” cube


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