Post by: David C Nickerson on May 07, 2009, 06:48:36 PM
I've finally pulled together a schedule for the program.
Let me know if you have any questions or to RSVP for this FREE gathering.
ProSoundWeb.com Live Audio Board Get Together / GearFest
May 18,-19
Wachusett Village Inn, 9 Village Inn Rd., Westminster, MA, wachusettvillageinn.com
Schedule:
5/18 Monday
9 - 11am: Setup, check in
11am - 12 David Missal: Sennheiser RF
12:15 - 1:15 Rational Acoustics: SMAART Overview
1:30 - 2:30 Real World Loudspeaker Deployment
2:45 - 3:45 Tim Vear: Shure RF
4pm - 6pm Bill Hanley: 40 Years of Festival Sound
6pm -8pm Dinner
8pm - 11pm Tyra Penn band (mic, mixer, speaker experimentation)
5/19 Tuesday
9 - 11am: Hands-on checking out gear. Casual A/B.
11am - 12 Brian Doser: Pro Tools in a Live Environment
12:15 - 1:15 Rational Acoustics: SMAART Advanced Topics
1:30 - 2:30 RF Advanced Topics Panel with David Missal & Tim Vear
2:45 - 3:45 Hands-on checking out gear. Casual A/B.
4pm - 6pm Strike
Exhibiting Manufacturers include:
Allen & Heath
APB Dynasonics
Danley Sound Labs
Earthworks
EAW
EONA ADRaudio
Rational Acoustics
Sennheiser
Shure
Soundcraft
There are still plenty of rooms available at our discounted block rates:
$69 for Sunday night, $79 for Monday.
Here’s a site with some area activities (for your spouse or the rest of your stay):
http://www.appleseed.org/
Free RSVP or any questions, please email David Nickerson: david@baystatesound.com
Post by: Vinny D'Agostino on May 07, 2009, 09:42:45 PM
I can probably only make it up on Monday night during the live entertainment portion of the show, will there still be equipment set up on display to look at?
Thanks,
Vinny
Post by: Rob Spence on May 08, 2009, 12:56:05 AM
Need me to bring anything?
Post by: Winston Gamble on May 09, 2009, 01:52:07 AM
Wish I could be there. Kudos to whoever organized it all.
Winston
Post by: David C Nickerson on May 10, 2009, 12:08:22 AM
There are plenty of rooms available.
I'm really excited about how it's all coming together.
Best,
David
| Winston Gamble wrote on Sat, 09 May 2009 01:52 |
Wow!!! Wish I could be there. Kudos to whoever organized it all. Winston |
Post by: David C Nickerson on May 12, 2009, 12:24:01 AM
Got any questions you'd like to ask?
Bill is working to dig up some photos and other content to make it all it can be, so what would you like to hear Bill talk about?
Thanks,
David
Post by: Ivan Beaver on May 12, 2009, 07:46:38 AM
| David C Nickerson wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 00:24 |
Bill is hoping for some help in pulling together his presentation to make sure he's sharing topics of interest to the audience. He asked me to ask what folks would like to hear him talk about. Got any questions you'd like to ask? Bill is working to dig up some photos and other content to make it all it can be, so what would you like to hear Bill talk about? Thanks, David |
Of course the obvious would be the system for Woodstock. I have heard lots of bits and pieces over the years about what was used-seen various photos etc, but would like a little run down on the gear.
And probably more importantly-how it was all pulled together-what did it really sound like (I REALLY want a time machine to go back and listen to my old gigs), what were some of the issues (grounding-power-stage SPL) and so forth.
I am very much looking forward to his talk.
Post by: Dave Dermont on May 12, 2009, 10:17:11 AM
The Monday gig fell through, but it seems that now the expenses of a child graduating from high school (AP tests, Prom Tickets, yada, yada, yada)and entering college ($!) have depleted my cash reserves.
As much as I'd love to go to this thing, I just don't see how I can swing it.
I thought of asking another attendee if they'd be so kind to share their room Monday night, but I snore like a cow, and I'd never put anyone through that.
I am off to collect soda bottles and aluminum cans.
Maybe I can work something out.
Dave "got any spare change?" Dermont
Post by: Jeff Knorr - Cobra Sound on May 12, 2009, 11:05:16 AM
Jeff
Post by: Dave Dermont on May 12, 2009, 01:30:23 PM
| Jeff Knorr - Cobra Sound wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 11:05 |
Dave if I weren't stuck on the day job gig from hell out of town, I'd give you a lift to the get together. I'm bummed as it is that I can't make the festivities. Jeff |
Thanks Jeff.
It seems that Keith Clark, who had originally planned to attend the event, can not make it. The powers that be have decided that the event should be properly covered by PSW, and have stepped up with the support necessary to get me to this event.
They are good like that.
I'll see everyone on Monday afternoon.
Post by: Bennett Prescott on May 12, 2009, 03:36:06 PM
| Vinny D'Agostino wrote on Thu, 07 May 2009 21:42 |
I can probably only make it up on Monday night during the live entertainment portion of the show, will there still be equipment set up on display to look at? |
Vinny,
That's half the point! The band is there to provide inputs to our mixing consoles, there will be plenty of toys on display, some of them in use, some of them just turned on.
Does anyone have a quality automixer we could borrow for the panel discussion(s)?
Post by: Ivan Beaver on May 12, 2009, 05:18:39 PM
2 TH mini's
2 TH212's
1 TH412 (new product-the PI eater
)1 SH60 (new product in the SH50 family)
2 SH64's
1 6.5K amp
1 DSLP48 DSP
Post by: Phil LaDue on May 12, 2009, 10:37:48 PM
| Ivan Beaver wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 17:18 |
For those that are interested, here is a list of gear that Danley Sound Labs is providing to play with-if so desired. 2 TH mini's 2 TH212's 1 TH412 (new product-the PI eater )1 SH60 (new product in the SH50 family) 2 SH64's 1 6.5K amp 1 DSLP48 DSP |
What, no Matterhorn?
Post by: David C Nickerson on May 13, 2009, 11:46:05 AM
I hope this helps.
Best,
David
| Dave Dermont wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 13:30 | ||
Thanks Jeff. It seems that Keith Clark, who had originally planned to attend the event, can not make it. The powers that be have decided that the event should be properly covered by PSW, and have stepped up with the support necessary to get me to this event. They are good like that. I'll see everyone on Monday afternoon. |
Post by: Bennett Prescott on May 13, 2009, 12:11:40 PM
| David C Nickerson wrote on Wed, 13 May 2009 11:46 |
The Inn just called to tell me that they've decided to lower the rate for anyone in our party TO JUST $49 PER NIGHT!!!! So, Sunday, Monday Tuesday, whatever you want to stay, it's ONLY $49 PER NIGHT!!! |
That is awesome! I will have to spend the money saved on drinks.
Post by: Vinny D'Agostino on May 13, 2009, 12:44:01 PM
| Bennett Prescott wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 20:36 | ||
Vinny, That's half the point! The band is there to provide inputs to our mixing consoles, there will be plenty of toys on display, some of them in use, some of them just turned on. Does anyone have a quality automixer we could borrow for the panel discussion(s)? |
Just wanted to make sure before I take the drive up
Post by: David C Nickerson on May 13, 2009, 10:58:52 PM
| Vinny D'Agostino wrote on Wed, 13 May 2009 12:44 | ||||
Just wanted to make sure before I take the drive up |
Hey Vinny,
Should I put you on the list for one day or both?
See you next week,
David
Post by: Ryan S Yorck on May 14, 2009, 02:19:18 AM
| David C Nickerson wrote on Wed, 13 May 2009 11:46 |
The Inn just called to tell me that they've decided to lower the rate for anyone in our party TO JUST $49 PER NIGHT!!!! So, Sunday, Monday Tuesday, whatever you want to stay, it's ONLY $49 PER NIGHT!!! I hope this helps. Best, David |
Any chance of this offer extending to Saturday night?
Post by: Vinny D'Agostino on May 14, 2009, 06:20:44 AM
| David C Nickerson wrote on Thu, 14 May 2009 03:58 | ||||||
Hey Vinny, Should I put you on the list for one day or both? See you next week, David |
I am planning on being there for Monday night around 7pm.
Can only do the one night, that whole *work* thing ruins everything
Post by: Ron Kimball on May 14, 2009, 11:56:28 AM
| Bennett Prescott wrote: |
Does anyone have a quality automixer we could borrow for the panel discussion(s)? |
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Post by: Bennett Prescott on May 14, 2009, 12:15:17 PM
Post by: Ron Kimball on May 14, 2009, 12:41:39 PM
| Bennett Prescott wrote on Thu, 14 May 2009 17:15 |
Gated "automixing" sounds pretty horrible, and "automixing" without compensation for the number of open mics is not something I want. |
? I also understand a "quality" automixer would hold open the last used channel. Also be flexible as far as prioritizing channels but I'd think a single "moderator priority" would be good enough for us? Anyways after reading up a bit on these I'm surprised no-one coming has one .Post by: Mac Kerr on May 14, 2009, 12:52:14 PM
| Ron Kimball wrote on Thu, 14 May 2009 12:41 | ||
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If you are in a near feedback situation gating will have no effect on overall system gain if all mics are in use. It will also be pretty easy to hear it working. No net gain for a net loss in quality. Not a good trade off to me.
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I think I understand the "compensation" part but it seems to be only needed if you are near max GBF - how deaf are yous guys ? |
Gain compensation makes the overall gain of the system the same no matter how many mics are open. There is no change in background level, and if you have enough GBF for 1 mic you have enough for 20. The good automixers use this system, and are seamless in operation.
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I also understand a "quality" automixer would hold open the last used channel. Also be flexible as far as prioritizing channels but I'd think a single "moderator priority" would be good enough for us? Anyways after reading up a bit on these I'm surprised no-one coming has one . |
No, a "quality" automixer will keep the system gain at 1 no matter how many mics are active. If the panel is so unruly that you need a moderator priority the good mixers let you set a "weighting" threshold to give more priority to the mics you want.
We expect to have a panel on automixing at the AES Convention this October, led by our own Bink Knowles. Come and find out how these things work.
Mac
Post by: Ron Kimball on May 14, 2009, 01:06:45 PM
| Mac Kerr wrote: |
If you are in a near feedback situation... |
Post by: John Roberts {JR} on May 14, 2009, 02:10:12 PM
| Bennett Prescott wrote on Thu, 14 May 2009 11:15 |
Gated "automixing" sounds pretty horrible, and "automixing" without compensation for the number of open mics is not something I want. |
AM without NOM is nada...
JR
Post by: Ron Kimball on May 14, 2009, 02:14:04 PM
| John Roberts wrote: |
AM without NOM is nada... |
EIEIO?
Post by: Mac Kerr on May 14, 2009, 02:18:23 PM
| Ron Kimball wrote on Thu, 14 May 2009 14:14 | ||
EIEIO? |
Number of Open Microphones.
Post by: Mac Kerr on May 14, 2009, 02:25:02 PM
| Ron Kimball wrote on Thu, 14 May 2009 13:06 | ||
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You are mistaken about what I was saying. My experience is that GBF is always a factor in panel discussions. Background noise is also a factor, and a good automixer will take care of both. I try to never do a panel without an automixer.
Mac
Post by: Ron Kimball on May 14, 2009, 02:37:32 PM
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Post by: David C Nickerson on May 15, 2009, 01:15:04 PM
I've also spoken with Shannon and Carlton from Stage Research who will come up after the Broadway Sound Master Classes this weekend in NYC to share SFX with us.
This is going to be a blast!
-David
Post by: Bennett Prescott on May 15, 2009, 06:53:02 PM
Post by: Ron Kimball on May 15, 2009, 07:18:23 PM
| Bennett Prescott wrote on Fri, 15 May 2009 23:53 |
Extra special public thanks to David Kaiser for mailing me an auto mixer to use! |
. Do we know the make and model yet?Post by: Bennett Prescott on May 15, 2009, 07:23:45 PM
Post by: Ron Kimball on May 15, 2009, 08:16:38 PM
| Bennett Prescott wrote on Sat, 16 May 2009 00:23 |
He sent an Audio Technica MX341a. |
http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/resource_library/literatur e/7bb55cf7c7902ca0/at_mx341a__om.pdf
Post by: Ivan Beaver on May 15, 2009, 08:18:44 PM
| Ron Kimball wrote on Thu, 14 May 2009 14:37 |
OK, gotcha. Worst case we can draw straws for who gets stuck playing "Fader Jockey" . |
Are there going to be enough people there that we need to amplify a panel discussion and have to worry about enough GBF?
Post by: Mac Kerr on May 15, 2009, 08:21:34 PM
| Ivan Beaver wrote on Fri, 15 May 2009 20:18 | ||
Are there going to be enough people there that we need to amplify a panel discussion and have to worry about enough GBF? |
Stop asking the hard questions Ivan.
Mac
Post by: Ron Kimball on May 15, 2009, 08:42:10 PM
| Ivan Beaver wrote: |
Are there going to be enough people there that we need to amplify a panel discussion and have to worry about enough GBF? |
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Post by: Mac Kerr on May 15, 2009, 08:52:50 PM
| Ivan Beaver wrote on Fri, 15 May 2009 20:43 |
I personally HATE to hear myself through ANY sound system. I prefer to just speak up. But sometimes you have to. |
Me too. Last year at AES Bink had to chastise me repeatedly for not speaking on mic. The year before where we did the corporate audio panel and all just sat in a circle off the stage was much more comfortable. Or maybe that was 4 years ago.
Mac
Post by: Bennett Prescott on May 15, 2009, 10:29:19 PM
Post by: Ivan Beaver on May 16, 2009, 12:03:47 AM
| Bennett Prescott wrote on Fri, 15 May 2009 22:29 |
We have no idea how many people are going to show up. I'm just planning for the worst (hundreds). |
Well if that's the case-I guess we will need to mic up the presenters
.Looking forward to it-see ya Monday-or sooner.
Post by: Ron Kimball on May 18, 2009, 08:15:27 PM
| David C Nickerson wrote: |
8pm - 11pm Tyra Penn band (mic, mixer, speaker experimentation) |
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