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Title: True1 safety notice
Post by: John Fruits on December 21, 2017, 06:52:17 PM
I just saw this posted by Steve Terry of ETC at another forum.
True1 (http://www.neutrik.com/en/audio/powercon/nac3fx-w)
The link to the safety notice is on the right hand side of the page. 
It seems that the powerCon connectors don't suffer from this issue.
The True1 is becoming more prevalent for lighting (especially IP rated fixtures).
Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: ThomasA(lbenberger) on December 22, 2017, 03:29:18 AM
I just saw this posted by Steve Terry of ETC at another forum.
True1 (http://www.neutrik.com/en/audio/powercon/nac3fx-w)
The link to the safety notice is on the right hand side of the page. 
It seems that the powerCon connectors don't suffer from this issue.
The True1 is becoming more prevalent for lighting (especially IP rated fixtures).

Hi John!

What exactly is it you are showing us here?

What I gather from this safety notice is: Take care while plugging in the connector and you'll be fine.

Anything else?

Best Regards, Thomas
Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: Erik Jerde on December 22, 2017, 10:26:49 AM
Rough copy/paste from the notice.  Pics didn't come through of course.


powerCON® TRUE1
Please regularly check the condition of your powerCON TRUE1 connector system (cable connector
& chassis) for clear signs of wear and tear.
Through improper use and the excessive use of force, the encoding lugs and guide slots in the connector system can become so severely worn or damaged that it is possible to insert the cable connector the wrong way. However, when inserted the wrong way, the cable connector should not twist-lock into place.
A cable connector inserted the wrong way could, in some circumstances, lead to contact between live wires and the grounding contact in the plug socket.
To determine that the cable connector is inserted correctly, follow the use instructions and listen for the “click” when performing the twist-lock. Immediately unplug any connector that does not twist- lock correctly in place.
          ABC
               Note: When connecting, match the notch on the cable connector to the corresponding guide slot on the chassis.
Note: After inserting properly as in illustration A , twist the cable connector clockwise to lock.
click
Note: The proper twist-lock is achieved when the yellow tab is in the position shown in C and an audibel «click» is heard.
      SAFETY WARNING
incorrect insertion may cause electrical contact misalignment resulting in equipment malfunction and/or personal injury.
   
max.
1 Newton
Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: John Fruits on December 22, 2017, 11:16:34 AM
Hi John!

What exactly is it you are showing us here?

What I gather from this safety notice is: Take care while plugging in the connector and you'll be fine.

Anything else?

Best Regards, Thomas
For me the main takeaway is that what should be a foolproof device might develop issues.  For most people this is would not be a problem.  In a perfect world all the crew would know what they were doing.  In the real world you sometimes end up with the doofus who is of the "ram it, jam it, get'er done" school.  Therein lies the rub. 
Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: Mark Cadwallader on December 22, 2017, 12:34:10 PM
For me the main takeaway is that what should be a foolproof device might develop issues.  For most people this is would not be a problem.  In a perfect world all the crew would know what they were doing.  In the real world you sometimes end up with the doofus who is of the "ram it, jam it, get'er done" school.  Therein lies the rub.

That's shocking!
Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: Riley Casey on December 22, 2017, 12:37:08 PM
Long standing problem on NL4 connectors in long service.  A big reason why I've looked askance at Neutrick for AC power connections beyond rack gear that isn't mated regularly or by freelance crews.
Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: Frank DeWitt on December 23, 2017, 09:22:25 AM
The problem with making things fool proof is that fools are so darn clever.
Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: Tom Bourke on December 23, 2017, 09:26:00 AM
The problem with making things fool proof is that fools are so darn clever.
I prefer the term idiot resistant.  But then they keep making better idiots!
Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: Daniel Levi on December 23, 2017, 01:44:39 PM
I prefer the term idiot resistant.  But then they keep making better idiots!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhJmEGs7P2E
Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: Lyle Williams on December 24, 2017, 07:02:51 PM
In terms of elegance, these entertainment-specific power connectors are more "SCART" than "HDMI".

Title: Re: True1 safety notice
Post by: Lyle Williams on January 14, 2018, 02:45:13 PM
The OP in the original forum has noted (with a photo) that he could mis-mate brand new True1 connectors with little force.