Michael Hoddy wrote on Tue, 28 September 2010 20:09 |
Does anyone have a source for flyable, permanent install-type stage lighting bar or pipe systems? I have a church install where I need to provide and fly 3 lighting pipe locations for Source Four ellipsoidals with something designed for the purpose that I can mount to proper equipment supports on the structure. I'm not looking for truss. I've seen these before, I just don't know who makes them. I don't need dimming on them, just a pipe/bar system with mounting points. Each location needs to be around 8 feet in length. Any ideas? Thanks. |
Michael Hoddy wrote on Wed, 29 September 2010 07:50 |
I'm familiar with the ETC product, but I'm looking for something that's just a lighting pipe or bar with fly-rated structural attachment points- no integrated dimming or circuiting. Pretty simple really. I'm kind of surprised that something obvious hasn't popped up because I've seen this sort of thing in a bunch of church installs by others. I've seen people and companies build their own with Schedule 40 pipe and assorted hangers, and while I know that Schedule 40 (or 80) pipe is kind of a standard in smaller theaters for this, I am not interested in reinventing the wheel by fabricating something and trying to get a structural engineer to approve it. I'd rather submit a drawing of a pre-existing product that's designed for this. |
Michael Hoddy wrote on Wed, 29 September 2010 07:58 |
{QUOTE} We've seen a lot of hack hangs jobs, and one of the biggest mistakes is some fool screwing a pipe flange into a wood stud (or just the ceiling/wall) DO IT RIGHT....Don't be a Dino! |
Chuck Fudge wrote on Wed, 29 September 2010 08:43 |
jr clancy bmi supply H and H hardware...etc The pipe and hanging devices are easy, its how you intend to support the structure. If steel is exposed, pretty easy situation, but if concrete cealing or wood structure then you are looking at some engineering/structural investigation. Do you want the pipe to be rigid? different scenerio. 1.5 schedule 40 black pipe is the standard, 2" is not necessary. Flat steel brackets that sandwich the pipe provide a mounting point for shackle. Chain or wire rope from there to structure. you can also just rap the pipe with chain, and then shackle, and support from that point. Chain must be welded and rated. If a rigid system, steel brackets from the ceiling down to pipe. rated u bolts support pipe to brackets. Hire a theatrical rigging contractor. if you are in the midwest, I use Chicago Flyhouse for all our projects. Chuck |
Charlie Zureki wrote on Wed, 29 September 2010 09:04 |
I think you're missing the point...it's not always about the equipment...it's about HOW it's attached to the building.... and NO ONE can phone that in.....they have to actually be there....ON SITE. Hammer |
Chuck Fudge wrote on Fri, 08 October 2010 21:42 |
forged..not welded...you're right. anyway....its all got to be rated. Thats why I hire out, no room for mistakes. |
Chuck Fudge wrote on Wed, 29 September 2010 09:43 |
bmi supply |
Tim Padrick wrote on Sat, 27 November 2010 01:17 |
If I'm not mistaken, 1.5" schedule 40 has an OD of 2", so you guys are likely talking about the same pipe. |