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Title: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: brian maddox on July 28, 2022, 04:09:46 PM
So I was talking about the new Ford Lightning F-150 on the FB the other day and our good friend Mike Sokol pointed out the remarkable utility of the F-150 PowerBoost hybrid.

So for those who don't know, both of these trucks offer significant amounts of good ol' fashioned 120V AC current available in "generator mode". The Hybrid version is essentially a 7.2kW full inverter generator which is pretty cool. Oh and it's got a truck attached which is handy. Got me to thinking how useful these could be for small/mid sized operators. You could tow the trailer to the gig and power the gig off the same truck.

Lots of things to consider of course, but I'd love to hear thoughts on this. Interesting? Stupid?
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: Dave Garoutte on July 28, 2022, 09:24:24 PM
So I was talking about the new Ford Lightning F-150 on the FB the other day and our good friend Mike Sokol pointed out the remarkable utility of the F-150 PowerBoost hybrid.

So for those who don't know, both of these trucks offer significant amounts of good ol' fashioned 120V AC current available in "generator mode". The Hybrid version is essentially a 7.2kW full inverter generator which is pretty cool. Oh and it's got a truck attached which is handy. Got me to thinking how useful these could be for small/mid sized operators. You could tow the trailer to the gig and power the gig off the same truck.

Lots of things to consider of course, but I'd love to hear thoughts on this. Interesting? Stupid?

A mobile DJ could set up in the truck and have no load in/out.  Would work great for parade floats too.
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: Steve Crump on July 28, 2022, 09:53:12 PM
So I was talking about the new Ford Lightning F-150 on the FB the other day and our good friend Mike Sokol pointed out the remarkable utility of the F-150 PowerBoost hybrid.

So for those who don't know, both of these trucks offer significant amounts of good ol' fashioned 120V AC current available in "generator mode". The Hybrid version is essentially a 7.2kW full inverter generator which is pretty cool. Oh and it's got a truck attached which is handy. Got me to thinking how useful these could be for small/mid sized operators. You could tow the trailer to the gig and power the gig off the same truck.

Lots of things to consider of course, but I'd love to hear thoughts on this. Interesting? Stupid?



https://www.axios.com/2022/07/27/ford-lightning-electric-truck
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: Dave Garoutte on July 29, 2022, 12:57:34 PM


https://www.axios.com/2022/07/27/ford-lightning-electric-truck
Oooooo, 240 volts to power my Danleys!
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: Steve Crump on July 30, 2022, 10:17:38 AM
Oooooo, 240 volts to power my Danleys!

Not to mention built in drum riser.
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: John Roberts {JR} on July 30, 2022, 11:05:33 AM
Sounds like a home run for small contractors.

JR
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: Brian Hancock on August 03, 2022, 09:46:12 PM
Have first hand knowledge of a small led screen that ran off one for a display pretty cool party truck "trick" ha
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: Brian Jojade on August 03, 2022, 11:16:12 PM
If the truck can be positioned in a convenient location, then yep, awesome.  If not, then a small generator may be a better choice
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: Steve Crump on August 04, 2022, 12:00:33 PM
I had read that some orders for the Lightning will take up to 3 years to fill. I was on the phone with a salesperson at Akins Ford in Winder GA, which is a pretty large dealership trying to order a standard F-150XL for the shop and I asked him about those rumors, and he said that they are supposed to receive 10 Lightnings in 2023 and that number pales in comparison to the numbers of reservations that they have currently. 
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: Stephen Swaffer on August 04, 2022, 01:07:11 PM
I foresee a whole new conversation on bonding and grounding.  It's one think to plug a cord connected tool into a ruck-a whole different to plug in a bunch of interconnected gear to a power source-especially if that gear is not "generator" mounted.

I still say this a good case to argue for an industry standard 12/24/36 or even 48 VDC supply standard.  No reason for the inefficiency of the inverters to convert back to DC.  I looked at the AHM-64 a few days ago -because of another thread.  I thought it interesting that an install product had a DC power provision for backup but it doesn't seem like that has gone mainstream for stuff designed to be portable yet.
Title: Re: Ford F-150 PowerBoost as mobile show power?
Post by: John Roberts {JR} on August 04, 2022, 02:20:14 PM
I foresee a whole new conversation on bonding and grounding.  It's one think to plug a cord connected tool into a ruck-a whole different to plug in a bunch of interconnected gear to a power source-especially if that gear is not "generator" mounted.
Unclear what the difference is between this and a conventional generator?
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I still say this a good case to argue for an industry standard 12/24/36 or even 48 VDC supply standard.
audio from EV truck power is a tiny sub sector of a tiny sub market. The mass market will get the most utility from conventional mains power voltage and AC frequency. I wonder if EU market trucks get 230VAC, 50Hz? Probably.  8)
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No reason for the inefficiency of the inverters to convert back to DC.  I looked at the AHM-64 a few days ago -because of another thread.  I thought it interesting that an install product had a DC power provision for backup but it doesn't seem like that has gone mainstream for stuff designed to be portable yet.
I recall years ago discussion about DC power distribution for inside modern homes for some of the reasons you enumerated. I haven't heard much about that lately. 

JR