Post by: Keith Shannon on April 28, 2010, 03:12:19 PM
1-4 Drums; Kick, Snare, 2xOH
5-8 Vocals
9-11 Guitars; 2 of 3 used currently
12 Bass
13-14 Keyboard; only one used now, could be moved to stereo feed
15-16 Unused spares; have been used for horns, extra vocals, etc.
ST1/2 Unused, could be keys or a feed from another mixer for monitors.
ST3/4 Playback from USB
Post by: Andy Peters on April 28, 2010, 03:15:59 PM
| Keith Shannon wrote on Wed, 28 April 2010 12:12 |
Let's see em. Just interested in seeing how you guys arrange channels. 1-4 Drums; Kick, Snare, 2xOH 5-8 Vocals 9-11 Guitars; 2 of 3 used currently 12 Bass 13-14 Keyboard; only one used now, could be moved to stereo feed 15-16 Unused spares; have been used for horns, extra vocals, etc. ST1/2 Unused, could be keys or a feed from another mixer for monitors. ST3/4 Playback from USB |
Is it this time of the month already?
-a
Post by: Stavross (Sam Buck) on April 28, 2010, 03:26:23 PM
2. Snare T
3. Snare B
4. Hat
5. Tom 1
6. Tom 2
7. Tom 3
8. Ride
9. Guitar L
10. Guitar R
11. Bass Mic
12. Bass DI
13. Vocal C
14. Vocal R
15. Vocal Spare
16. Triangle
17. Bagpipes
18. Accordian (muted)
19. Nickleharp
20. Gong
21. Glockenspeil LH
22. Glockenspeil RH
23. Organ Grinder
24. Monkey
25. Monkeye (Peter Tork)
26. Cowbell
27. More Cowbell
28. Sousaphone
29. Jug
30. Washboard
31. Dryer
3.14 pi
32. Click
33. Clack
Post by: Dick Rees on April 28, 2010, 03:27:22 PM
| Andy Peters wrote on Wed, 28 April 2010 14:15 | ||
Is it this time of the month already? -a |
1 Prima Domra I
2 Prima Domra II
3 Prima Domra III
4 Alto Domra I
5 Flute
6 Bass Balalaika
7 Accordion I
8 Accordion II
9 Contrabass Balalaika
10 Alto Domra II
11 Prima Balalaika III
12 Prima Balalaika II
13 Prima Balalaika I
14 Vox I
15 Vox II
16 MC
Post by: Andy Peters on April 28, 2010, 03:29:01 PM
1 Fuck
2 Fuck
3 Fuck
4 Fuck
5 Fuck
6 Fuck
7 Fuck
8 Fuck
9 Fuck
10 Fuck
11 Fuck
12 Fuck
13 Fuck
14 Fuck
15 Fuck
16 Fuck
(edit: fucking autoemoticonizer)
Post by: Dick Rees on April 28, 2010, 03:32:35 PM
| Stavross (Sam Buck) wrote on Wed, 28 April 2010 14:26 |
19. Nickleharp |
Stav....
That's spelled "nyckelharpa"!!!!!
Post by: Stuart Pendleton on April 28, 2010, 03:32:35 PM
Post by: (BJ) Benjamin Fisher on April 28, 2010, 03:42:30 PM
2.Snare
3.Tom 1
4.Tom 2
5.Tom 3
6.Tom 4
7.HH
8.OH
9.Bass
10.GTR L
11.GTR R
12.Keys
13.Spare
14.Unused (Noisy Ch)
15.Vox 1(Mon-No Comp)
16.Vox 1 (FOH -Comp)
17.Vox 2
18.Vox 3
19.Talkback
20.Ipod
21/22.EFX
23/24.EFX
Post by: Stavross (Sam Buck) on April 28, 2010, 03:52:28 PM
| Dick Rees wrote on Wed, 28 April 2010 14:32 | ||
Stav.... That's spelled "nyckelharpa"!!!!! |
I also think there is supposed to be two or three umlauts.
Post by: Dick Rees on April 28, 2010, 03:55:35 PM
| Stavross (Sam Buck) wrote on Wed, 28 April 2010 14:52 | ||||
I also think there is supposed to be two or three umlauts. |
It's Swedish, not German.
Det
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on April 28, 2010, 03:59:23 PM
13-18: strummy things
19-22: bumpin' things
23-28: out of key things
29: sometimes in key, but quiet things
30-36: spacish sounding things
Evan
Post by: Stavross (Sam Buck) on April 28, 2010, 04:04:51 PM
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It's Swedish, not German. Det Post by: Scott Helmke (Scodiddly) on April 28, 2010, 04:14:59 PM 1 Kick 2 OH L 3 OH R 4 Bass DI 5 Bass Mic 6 Guitar 7-9 Piano 10-15 Sax 16-19 Trombone 20 Trumpet solo 21 Contrabass 22 Cello 23 Viola 24-25 Violin 26 Bassoon 27 Oboe 28-29 Clarinet 30 Flute 31-34 Choir 35 Solo vocal 36 Piano vocal 37 Band solo 38 Announce Oops - I'm not going to renumber, but I left out French horn and also soprano sax solo. Plus talk back (46) and iPod playback (47-48). And yes, that actually was my most recent show. Post by: justin sircus on April 28, 2010, 04:23:42 PM 2-Vox 3-Solo/flute mic Shhh, don't tell the band. They think I mic everything. Sometimes I do but those 3 mics are all I ever put in the mix. Post by: Dick Rees on April 28, 2010, 04:25:00 PM
Word. 1. For the money 2. For the show 3. To get ready 4. Go, man, go!!!! Post by: Adam Robinson on April 28, 2010, 04:31:31 PM 16-18 A few things that go boom 19-23 Things related to the electronic drum kit 24-25 Bucket o' beans 26-35 Things with black and white keys 36-39 Strummy stuff 40-43 Squawk 44-49 Shiny things that get blown 50-51 Complaint hotline 52-53 Hoots and Hollers And continuing at FOH 54-57 Prerecorded stuff 58-69 Psychedelic stuff 70-74 More Stuff Post by: Tim A Perry on April 28, 2010, 06:36:25 PM PCC 2 PCC 3 SHOTGUN 1 (birdshot) SHOTGUN 2 (buckshot) SHOTGUN 3 (rifled slug) wireless lav 1 through 9 Orchestra xy left Orchestra xy right piano PZM Choir xy L Choir xy R HT wireless local announce/TB REV+delay L REV+delay R REV tap delay 360 shortcut L 360 Shortcut R CD L CD R Post by: Jeff Wheeler on April 28, 2010, 06:55:06 PM Post by: Mike Turney on April 28, 2010, 07:00:03 PM 2. Snare 3. Tom 1 4. Tom 2 5. Floor tom 6. Hat 7. OH 8. OH 9. Bass 10. Guitar 11. Guitar 12. Sequencer 13. Keyboards 14. Vocal 15. Vocal 16. Vocal 17. Vocal 19. SUCK 20. FEEDBACK 22. Delay 23. Reverb 24. Drum Reverb Post by: Tim A Perry on April 28, 2010, 07:04:47 PM Post by: Mike Turney on April 28, 2010, 07:06:13 PM
Post by: Dave Scarlett on April 28, 2010, 07:27:41 PM Post by: Jason Dermer on April 28, 2010, 07:53:05 PM 1-31 Stuff that doesn't matter 32 JOHN'S VOCAL MIC, ONLY MIXES 1, 2, 12, AND 13 MATTER AND DON'T PUT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT CHANNEL 32 OR 33 INTO THEM 33 JOHN'S SPARE VOCAL MIC 34-40 Some vocals that don't matter Post by: Joe Brugnoni on April 28, 2010, 08:05:37 PM Post by: Winston Gamble on April 28, 2010, 08:24:44 PM 1. Kick 2. Snare/hat (PR22 stuck between them) 3. Rack toms 4. Floor tom 5. Bass DI 6. Q stic 7. <<< Guitar 8. >>> Guitar 9. < Vocal 10. * Vocal 11. > Vocal 12. Drum Vocal 16. TB By the end of the night I'm down to pretty much kick, bass, acoustic and vocals. Good band food, we play 7:00 - 9:00 and are home by 10:00!!!!  Winston Post by: Andy Peters on April 28, 2010, 08:47:39 PM
1. Over 2. Under 3. Sideways 4. Down -a Post by: Geoff Doane on April 28, 2010, 08:49:21 PM GTD Post by: Dick Rees on April 28, 2010, 09:26:52 PM 1 01 11 001 101 011 111 0001 1001 0101 1101 0011 1011 0111 1111 00001 Post by: Kristian Johnsen on April 28, 2010, 09:47:03 PM
Dick, n Post by: Tim A Perry on April 28, 2010, 11:28:03 PM
can you say that in wing dings? Post by: Rob Spence on April 28, 2010, 11:37:30 PM
We just looked up what these are and they are really COOL instruments! Where did you find them? Post by: Tim McCulloch on April 28, 2010, 11:47:40 PM 2 - 36 open 37 -38 MiniDisc Primary L/R 38 -40 MiniDisc backup L/R Post by: Dick Rees on April 29, 2010, 12:37:30 AM
I work with a local balalaika orchestra. Hammer has their CD.... They're hosting the big convention this summer and we'll have a little over 120 players in the massed ensemble. Live sound and recording. Lotsa fun, you betcha. There are actually more different sizes at the convention than are represented in the local orchestra. And other wind instruments plus a full percussion section...... Post by: Lester Moran on April 29, 2010, 01:21:10 AM I need to raise my rate. Les Post by: Tim Padrick on April 29, 2010, 01:25:38 AM Vocals under my right hand. Things that most often support and compete with vocals (guitars, keys, etc,) under my left hand. Other stuff where there is room. Post by: Daniel Cash on April 29, 2010, 01:26:59 AM 1. Lectern 2. Lectern HH 3. Spare wired HH 4. Wireless HH 5. EFX return 7. Piano 8. Choir L 9. Choir R 23. CD L 24. CD R Post by: Bill Burford on April 29, 2010, 02:11:33 AM just kidding. I do know of a guy who has literally been talked down in price so far that he literally sets up one vocal mic and one kick mic--- thats it! ha ha... and he still used a snake! HAA! so funny. I laugh about that every time I remeber seeing it (out of town visit revealed this to me). I think it was 75$'s for 3 or 4 metal bands in a wearhouse. This guy likes metal. oh yeah, two powered speakers. (he uses SRX 728's and the old 4732 tops for a real gig and he's not too shabby) for small/portable shows, channel 6 is pretty much always bass (DI) and 7 and 8 are my favorite channels for left and right guitar. Post by: Scott Smith on April 29, 2010, 10:38:59 AM
Since there is a best kick mic thread going again, it must be time.. 
Post by: Dick Rees on April 29, 2010, 10:43:15 AM Post by: Brian Harden on April 29, 2010, 10:55:03 AM 2. Daddy Warbucks 3. Miss Hannigan 4. Rooster 5. Lily St. Regis 6. Pepper 7. July 8. Molly 9. Duffie 10. Tessie 11. Kate 12. Grace Farrell 13. Pres. Roosevelt 14. Bert Healy 15-17 Boyland sisters 18. Star to Be 19-24 President's staff 25. Drake the butler 26-31 floor mics 32-40 hanging mics 41-48 Orchestra Guess which show I had the pleasure of sitting through 14 times?  Post by: Dick Rees on April 29, 2010, 11:13:04 AM
I had Drake on 5. Post by: Stavross (Sam Buck) on April 29, 2010, 11:17:22 AM Post by: Gerry Seymour on April 29, 2010, 11:19:12 AM
Now, now. No in-fighting over the proper channel assignment for the butler. Frankly, it would be far more appropriate to put staff in the Floor Mic section, anyway. Children belong with the hanging mics, obviously (though it takes much gaffer tape to keep them there). Post by: Scott Smith on April 29, 2010, 11:21:10 AM
I always liked "number 9"... "number 9"...
Post by: Brian Harden on April 29, 2010, 11:30:51 AM I know, I know... there is the whole "murder/illegal" thing, but I think this would be a perfect example of "by reasons of temporary insanity" 
Post by: Dick Rees on April 29, 2010, 11:38:39 AM
Wanna really go nuts? Try being in a show scheduled for a six month run (9 shows a week), then having it extended for another three months when they couldn't get the next show up and ready...... In the band, but on stage so no fidgeting, refreshments, etc...... At least at the console I can scratch my ass if I want to. And one last time.... 1-4 Violence 2-8 Second violence 9/10 Violets 11/12 Jellos 13/14 String beans 16-19 Wends 20-22 Bras 23/24 Pertussin 25-28 Grand pannini 29 Fat lady Post by: Donnie Evans on April 29, 2010, 12:02:14 PM 2. HBO 3. NBC 4. Weather 5. CSpan 6. ABC 7. GPTV 8. TBS 9. WGN 10. Local access 11. CW 12. CBS 13. Fox ..... Post by: Tim A Perry on April 29, 2010, 02:18:12 PM Tomorrow, TOMORRRROOOOOOOW... Post by: Lee Brenkman on April 29, 2010, 03:03:10 PM
#3 on my top list of "the first three notes make me cringe" list #2 - "Memory" from Cats (I actually like most of the rest of the songs in the show) #1 - The organ intro to "Phantom" I actually dislike the entire score Post by: Stavross (Sam Buck) on April 29, 2010, 03:05:36 PM
I see they decided to go with a redhead in the lead role...very original. Post by: Lee Brenkman on April 29, 2010, 03:12:39 PM 01 Kick Drum 02 Snare/Hi Hat 03 Overhead Left 04 Overhead Right 05 Bass Direct 06 Congas Left 07 Congas Right 08 Percussionists Headset 09 Percussion Overhead 10 Keyboard direct 11 Sax & Flute #1 12 Sax & Flute #2 13 Shakuhachi 14 Baritone Sax/Contra Alto Clarinet 15 French Horn 16 Trumpet #1 17 Trumpet #2 18 Wagner Tuba 18 Bass Trombone 21 Sheng 21 Tabla 22 Tambura 23 Sarod 24 MC The next time with this same band it could be very different http://www.anthonybrown.org/aao.html It's one of the reasons I like working with them and have for many years Post by: Tom Reid on April 29, 2010, 03:31:14 PM 9-12 expensive noodly drum mics 13 Bass things direct 14 Bass things mic 15 lightsaber L 16 lightsaber R 17 elec guitar 1 18 elec guitar 2 19 acoustic stringy things 20 son of acoutic stringy things 21 key L 22 key R 23 key mono 24 shy and reserved 25 Vox 1 26 Vox 2 27 Vox 3 28 Vox 4 29 Vox 1 split 30 Vox 2 split 31 Vox 3 split 32 Vox 4 split STE1 - Harmonizer STE2 - TCM300 STE3 - Lexicon MPX 550 STE4 - Computer playback sub1/2 drums and direct bass comp inserted sub3/4 guitar - noisemakers comp inserted sub5/6 keys and bass mic comp inserted sub6/7 Vox comp inserted Post by: Stavross (Sam Buck) on April 29, 2010, 03:52:32 PM Post by: Tom Reid on April 29, 2010, 04:06:33 PM
Guitar players with too many pedals. Post by: Jay Barracato on April 29, 2010, 04:19:10 PM Channel 1: DJ left Channel 2: DJ right Channel 3: wireless. your doing okay im my book. There I said it out loud. Post by: Stavross (Sam Buck) on April 29, 2010, 04:19:59 PM
Ah, and here I thought you were doing bands with dueling theremins. Post by: Tim A Perry on April 29, 2010, 05:01:57 PM I see they decided to go with a redhead in the lead role...very original. [/quote] Psst... don't tell anyone but it was a wig. Post by: Tony "T" Tissot on April 29, 2010, 05:23:03 PM
He sure looked funny in that Altman movie he was in. Post by: Tom Reid on April 29, 2010, 05:23:55 PM
You know you're in trouble when the guitar player picks up his axe and it whooshes like a light saber before he can strap it on. Then when he goes to play it you get 2k through a lesli. Post by: Mark Sexton on April 29, 2010, 11:56:08 PM Console Snake Source Mic Notes 1 unavailable 2 2 Eb Clar./Clar. I KM184 table top stand 3 3 Clar. I C414 table top stand 4 4 Clar. II C414 table top stand 5 5 Clar. III SM81 table top stand 6 6 Bass Clar. SM81 short stand 7 7 Oboe KM184 short stand 8 8 Flute OH KM183 behind first row aimed forward 9 9 Flute OH KM183 behind first row aimed forward 10 10 Flute OH KM183 behind first row aimed forward 11 11 12 12 Horns I & III SM81 a couple of feet behind 13 13 Horns II & IV SM81 a couple of feet behind 14 14 15 15 Left KM184 16 16 Right KM184 17 17 Bass Drum M88 18 18 Tympani I & II MD421 19 19 Tympani III & IV MD421 20 20 Keys DI 21 21 22 22 tenor sax (left) SM57 23 23 alto sax SM57 24 24 alto sax SM57 25 25 tenor sax SM57 26 26 bari sax (right) MD421 27 27 Solo if needed (SM57) 28 28 Keys DI Same Keyboard as Winds? 29 29 electric guitar SM57 30 30 bass guitar DI 31 31 Left SM81 32 32 Right SM81 33 Main Actor 1 e6 1 34 Main Actor 2 e6 2 35 Main Actor 3 e6 3 36 Main Actor 4 e6 4 37 Main Actor 5 e6 5 38 Actor 6 e6 6 39 Actor 7 e6 7 40 Actor 8 e6 8 41 33 Vacuum Cleaner? Beta 98/SM57 42 34 Vacuum Cleaner? Beta 98/SM57 43 35 Vacuum Cleaner? Beta 98/SM57 44 36 Floor Polisher? Beta 98/SM57 45 unavailable 46 unavailable 47 unavailable 48 unavailable Post by: Patrick Tracy on April 30, 2010, 01:54:42 AM Post by: Tim A Perry on April 30, 2010, 02:21:43 AM Quote 41 33 Vacuum Cleaner? Beta 98/SM57 Post by: Mark Sexton on April 30, 2010, 09:27:03 AM
You could be right, but we currently only have one RE20. We figured we could easily clamp the beta 98s onto the vacuums if they're moving around or use 57s on stands if they're not. Post by: Jeff Knorr - Cobra Sound on April 30, 2010, 09:42:59 AM
This should be: 00001 00010 00011 00100 00101 00110 00111 01000 01001 01010 01011 01100 01101 01110 01111 10000 I don't think I've ever seen the MSB on the right. Jeff Post by: Dick Rees on April 30, 2010, 09:44:57 AM
I was reading this from the stage side of the console....... Post by: Stavross (Sam Buck) on April 30, 2010, 11:24:13 AM
Depends on whether or not the vacuum has the proper amount of suction. Post by: Tim McCulloch on April 30, 2010, 11:28:07 AM
Jeff, that's Norwegian Left-Handed Digital. Too much lutefisk will do that to a North American.  I bet Kristian doesn't have this issue.Have fun, good luck. Tim Mc Post by: Mike Christy on April 30, 2010, 11:52:13 AM FWIW... Post by: Bill Burford on April 30, 2010, 12:02:41 PM those were kick a** computers. Post by: Andy Peters on April 30, 2010, 12:18:24 PM
Motorola uses Big Endian, where the MSb (always on the left) is bit 0 and the LSb (always on the right) is labeled bit 7, 15, 23, 31, 63 depending on native word length. Intel uses Little endian, where the LSb (always on the right) is bit 0, and and the MSb (always on the left) is bit 7, 15, 31, 63 depending on the word length. (I cannot think of a 24-bit Intel machine; Motorola 56k-series DSPs are 24-bit devices.) Accessing full words of native length is trivial. Accessing a specific byte in, say, a 32-bit word is less so. Does anyone remember octal notation? 12-bit word lengths? Oh, yeah, the classic book, "Soul Of A New Machine" was about Data General. -a Post by: Mike Christy on April 30, 2010, 12:37:15 PM
Yup, By Tracy Kidder, worked on those proto-types, final code name for the machine was Eagle, skunk works at first. All PAL driven, miles of red ECO wire on them too, dead-bug city, The first program they got to run on it was Adventure, text version, Adventure morphed in Zork...xyzzy... Lots of crashes, lots of timing/race issues, I cant recall the sim, Zycad maybe... then they wrote a SW emulation of Zycad. Took days to run sims... Seems like yesterday. Post by: Bill Burford on April 30, 2010, 12:58:22 PM Its a 8 channel mackie into a driverack pa into three IT8000 bottom-amps and three IT6000 top amps into 6 VT4880A's accross the floor and two 6 stacks of VT4886 tops. Its set up at a cattle ranch in Texas aimed at a bunch of Bulls. Before the show starts, we put a bunch of cows in heat in a wooden cage in the middle of the arena. * This mixer has stereo effects in the effects loop which can be used to alter the sound. channel 1 and 3 are panned hard left. channel 2 and 4 are panned hard right. channel 1 and 2 inputs are: stereo remix loop of Phil Anselmo assorted screams from all Pantera albums. channel 3 and 4 inputs are: stereo remix loop of the most beutiful vocals from famous pop/r&b female vocalists. all vocals still have the accompany instrumental music. the engineer wears a kevlar body armor underneith a full suit of 16th century body armor even though he stands behind a reinforced fence that the bulls are not supposed to be able to break through or hurdle. a near by stream flowing down hill is cleverly diverted using 6 inch pvc mounted on wooden frames to turn a miniature wooden water wheel using skateboard bearings "reds" to reduce friction. The waiste water is diverted back to the stream. The water-wheel has a sprocket from a CR-125 (rear wheel) mounted on it with a chain to turn another sprocket near the mixing board (above it) which is roughly half the size. the board sproket turns a make-shift cam-shaft which depress spring-loaded dow-rods mounted directly onto the board. These dow-rods essentially alternate the mute buttons on the first 4 channels such that 1&2 alternate muting when 3&4 are unmuted and so on. the board is set to a nice loud level-- sound is good for the target zone. channel 5 has a lav mic mounted inside the body-armor so the engineer can say "Gitty UP HORSEY!!!!!!!!" into a slap-back delay. This reallly pisses off the bulls. by hand-braking the water wheel, the music can be adjusted to the desired mute-rate. LET THE MADDNESS BEGIN Post by: Tom Reid on April 30, 2010, 01:12:45 PM
Some DEC guys were also transplanted to Redmond Washington where they ported POSIX and something called NT. Post by: Tom Reid on April 30, 2010, 01:14:34 PM
Bill has a little too much time on his hands. ...wondering how one "gets" cows in heat. Post by: Stavross (Sam Buck) on April 30, 2010, 01:17:00 PM
Post by: Bill Burford on April 30, 2010, 01:31:17 PM but do you know why computer scientists celebrate Christmas on Halloween? Post by: Bill Burford on April 30, 2010, 01:36:35 PM on a cattle ranch, you'd probably have cows and bulls, the cows tend to naturally go into heat at their own natural interval. yes.. i have plenty of time on my hands today.. no gigs for a week.. but I am going to see one of my favorite artists tonight Post by: TJ (Tom) Cornish on April 30, 2010, 01:43:35 PM
I read that book when I was in highschool - it was fascinating. It's interesting and a little sad so see the old giants either not so giant, or dead. I live here in the land of Cray and Control Data and there isn't much left. My Dad is a metalworker and did some of the liquid cooling manifold work for one of the Crays - not sure which model - Cray 2 era, I believe. It's fun to have local connections, even if they are meaningless and obscure. Post by: Bill Burford on April 30, 2010, 01:56:06 PM OCT(31)=DEC(25) ha! (not funny- i never laughed at that joke) Post by: John Roberts {JR} on April 30, 2010, 02:14:42 PM  JR Post by: Mike Christy on April 30, 2010, 02:29:27 PM
Post by: Dick Rees on April 30, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
1000 little 0100 little 1100 little endians 0010 little 1010 little 0110 little endians 1110 little 0001 little 1001 little endians 0101 little endian boys Of course the whole Big Endian/Little Endian dichotomy harks back to Gullivers Travels....... |