Mike Christy wrote: |
...would have very much liked to have gotten a quick demo, specifically of the Minis, the EAW system, and the QSC Ks. |
Ron Kimball wrote on Wed, 20 May 2009 03:24 | ||
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Bob Kenton wrote: |
Is your sub search over now? LOL |
Ron Kimball wrote on Tue, 19 May 2009 22:45 | ||
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Scott Hibbard wrote: |
How did the TH-412 and SH-60 sound? Any thoughts/observations/pics? |
Ivan Beaver wrote: |
I was using 1/2 of a Danley 6.5K amp, which will do 2200RMS at 4 ohms-which is what a pair of minis is ... I don't believe (but am not sure) we were maxing out the amp when any of the subs were being played. |
Ron Kimball wrote on Tue, 19 May 2009 22:45 | ||
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Phil Lewandowski wrote: |
...I believe I put my thoughts between the 2 and the one I went with. |
Ron Kimball wrote on Wed, 20 May 2009 13:37 | ||
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Tom Young wrote on Mon, 18 May 2009 22:08 |
I just returned from Day-1 of the Demo/gear fest that David Nickerson spearheaded. Unfortunately I coud not stay for Day-2. It far surpassed what I imagined it would be. Perhaps 50 folks were there today as well as a good number of manufacturers, some of whom travelled far to participate in this. More folks due tomorrow. Everyone was of the "serious, passionate about live audio" ilk and (of course) many or all were LABsters. The presentations were all VERY good. Today ended with Bill Hanley's recollections of starting out in the PA business and leading up to doing sound for Woodstock (the real one). His anecdotes were fascinating and inspiring. As it turns out, his motivations were no different than mine and everyone I know/respect in this business (he felt strongly that live sound could be improved and he did something about this). He just started doing it before we all did and managed to be involved in some of the greatest early (historical) events .... as well as many since. The venue and its staff were all great. The acoustics of the conference room were far above average. The spirit of this entire endeavor was A+. I suspect that this took considerable effort and planning on David's part and I personally want to thank him for doing all that it took to pull this off so well. For a long time I have envied what certain geographical areas across the US do as far as audio-related meetings, demos and facility tours (AES Pacific- Northwest chapter comes to mind) and I have wondered why we (in New England) seem to not be capable of doing this ourselves (all the while being guilty of not doing anything about it myself). That is no longer the case. So "hats off" to David, Jason Dermer, Bennet Prescott and Ales Dravinec from Eona-ADR Audio, Ivan Beaver and Danley Sound Labs, Chuck and JP from APB, Jamie and Karen from Rational Acoustics, Sennheiser, Shure, Soundcraft, EAW, the various reps in attendance and all the rest of those who went to great effort to pull this off. Now, to sleep. |
Ron Kimball wrote on Wed, 20 May 2009 10:43 | ||
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Mike Christy wrote on Tue, 19 May 2009 13:11 |
Oh yes, we cant forget the big 3 panel…Tom, Bennett and Ivan, from ground stacks to line arrays to horn properties, having three experts from the industry clarify and elaborate on their specialties was an invaluable experience. That one hour could easily be an entire day session. |
John Chiara wrote: |
..and the vocalist was "forced" to use a variety of mics..Telefunken M80, AKG D5, Heil PR 22, PR 35 and a PR 35 capsule wireless, B57..and maybe more... |
Vinny D'Agostino wrote on Thu, 21 May 2009 12:24 |
I also never cared for the sound of the kick drum, but it might be more related to the actual size of the drum used and how it was tuned. For my taste it seemed like it was tuned a bit high and didn't have enough low end thump to it........but I realize it was more of a jazz kit and maybe thats how it should have sounded, I just like a kick drum with more meat to it. |
Vinny D'Agostino wrote: |
all I know it was very sparkly in appearance |
Vinny D'Agostino wrote: |
I also never cared for the sound of the kick drum |
Ron Kimball wrote on Thu, 21 May 2009 12:53 |
I hated the sound through the PA and stuck my ears up near the actual kick drum to check it out. I thought the drum acoustically was the best I've heard in a loooong time. IMO the PA had way too much "thump" on it and the "wetness" of the kick was completely lost until the last couple songs they played. I'd have pushed the mic into the drum another 8-12 inches to get more beater. |
Jason Dermer wrote: |
FWIW, the idea of switching the vocal mics regularly was not to find which was the best mic, but to find out which mic worked for that singer WITH NO EQ, only a swept HPF. |
Jason Dermer wrote: |
In this case, the fairly universal answer was the OM7 (not 5). |
Jason Dermer wrote: |
If someone handed her a BehrinSamso GTRCTR1 and it sounded great than we would have stopped there as we did with the OM. |
Jason Dermer wrote: |
Yes, the sound was "honky" with the M80, but that do not mean that the mains were. It only meant that the M80 does not work with her voice. |
Vinny D'Agostino wrote: |
It is funny how everyone hears stuff different |
Vinny D'Agostino wrote: |
I liked being able to move around from seat to seat and listen to the differences in the room itself. |
Vinny D'Agostino wrote: |
Hopefully at the next event I can spend more time there, I was only able to get there for the band portion of the evening.....but even that was enough time to fall in love with the Lab Gruppen amps that where there! |
Ron Kimball wrote on Thu, 21 May 2009 20:08 | ||
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Vinny D'Agostino wrote: |
Well, I never really looked into the Lab Gruppen amps before because I always just figured they were way out of my price range. I liked the 4-channel amplifier that was on display and the fact that it was very light but had plenty of power (if i remember correctly the one on display was 2000w per channel @ 4ohms). I could replace my FOH amp rack with that one amplifier, and my roadie/girlfriend could move it all by herself I was just impressed with it, no real reason other then I just liked it. |
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Mac Kerr wrote on Thu, 21 May 2009 12:40 | ||
Generally with a jazz kit the bass drum is supposed to sound like... well, a bass drum. It is not generally supposed to be electronically enhanced. It should sound like the drum does onstage, just reenforced as much as necessary. Mac |
John Chiara wrote: |
Plus the drummer to me was playing a jazz kit..with a matched grip and hit the snare many times like it was heavy metal...a little out of context. |
Ron Kimball wrote on Thu, 21 May 2009 17:21 | ||
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Bennett Prescott wrote: |
For much of the night most of the microphones were muted. Kick, overheads, vocal, and some bass were the primary channels. |
Mike Pyle wrote on Sun, 24 May 2009 17:19 |
Anyone posting photos? |
Ivan Beaver wrote on Fri, 22 May 2009 21:55 |
My biggest regret is that around 12:30AM Monday night/tues morning I was awakened by "boom boom thump thump". I figured Bennett and the crew were playing around in the room and thought about getting up and joining them. But I fell asleep instead . I now wish I had come down. It was the only time the loudspeakers were "opened up". Oh well, there is always next year. |
Dave Dermont wrote on Wed, 03 June 2009 07:59 |
My blog entry for the event has been posted. There is also a photo gallery. |
Bennett Prescott wrote on Sun, 14 June 2009 13:22 |
David, Did those videos come out? |
Ivan Beaver wrote on Sun, 21 June 2009 12:30 |
The one from Bill Hanley needs to be out there for HISTORY sake! Once lost, it will not be available. I also think the wireless talks were GREAT and people need a better understanding of what is going on in that area. |
Vinny D'Agostino wrote on Sat, 31 October 2009 14:07 |
I very much enjoyed the first event and will plan on attending the next one also. I am more of a person that likes to look at stuff so the more displays of equipment the happier I am I also was only there for the live band session on the first night (which I hope you will be doing again) and my only suggestion would have been for someone to explain what was being used as it was being changed out between different subs and high packs. I know there was mic changes happening but I couldn't tell you what was being changed to what...no one said anything! I was not in the *in* group that was making all the changes so I had no idea what was being changed around. And yes I could have spoken up and asked questions but like I said, I am more of a quiet person that really enjoys just looking and listening to stuff |
David C Nickerson wrote on Thu, 29 October 2009 10:18 |
Any ideas on who you'd like to see as a sort of "key note" speaker? |
Jonathan Wiegratz wrote on Tue, 19 January 2010 16:03 |
Is this a yearly event? When will the next Boston area event take place? Signed, Curious in Charlestown |