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Title: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on March 15, 2012, 12:36:34 AM
Hey all!

I'm looking to purchase some new moving heads and would like some input/recommendations on what you guys use/like.

Budget: $2,000 per fixture, would like to keep it to around $1,500 if possible. I'm open to buying used.

Used for: DJ shows, corporate events, weddings for gobo projections etc.

Requirements/Specifics: Does not need to be LED but I am open to it, I normally have pretty solid power at my venues, but of course I'd prefer to stay away from power hogs if possible. Would like as bright, and light/easy to move as possible. Space isn't a concern and I have trucks for transport but who wants to lug around anything larger/heavier than they have to? Basically looking for some good, solid movers with a nice feature set. They won't be thrown around, but I won't be the only one using them so I can't guarantee they will be babied either.

I'm really digging these platinum spot 5R's from elation but I've heard some concrens about reliability and issues with weird gobo sizes. I figured they were a bit better built and had a better feature set than the ADJ vizi 5Rs... Are my concerns justified? Should I be looking at something else? They seem to have the best balance for my criteria and intended use. Would love to hear some opinions!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Ken Shaner on March 15, 2012, 05:20:39 AM
We currently run the Chauvet Intimidator spot 250's and love them, BUT with the way LED technology is progressing i would highly recommend going that route since you have the budget for it. Large Movers aren't going to be " Light " though. We're about to pick up a couple of the new Chauvet Q-Spot 560's. If you are considering the 5R's then i think you'll love the 560's. LED, and extremely bright ( Similar to a 575 watt fixture ). Each mover has 3 60 Watt Led's in them. And being LED they are still much lighter than my 250 watt fixtures , they weigh 58lbs where these Movers twice as bright and LED only weigh 44lbs. Good luck with your decision!
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: TJ (Tom) Cornish on March 15, 2012, 08:30:43 AM
We currently run the Chauvet Intimidator spot 250's and love them, BUT with the way LED technology is progressing i would highly recommend going that route since you have the budget for it. Large Movers aren't going to be " Light " though. We're about to pick up a couple of the new Chauvet Q-Spot 560's. If you are considering the 5R's then i think you'll love the 560's. LED, and extremely bright ( Similar to a 575 watt fixture ). Each mover has 3 60 Watt Led's in them. And being LED they are still much lighter than my 250 watt fixtures , they weigh 58lbs where these Movers twice as bright and LED only weigh 44lbs. Good luck with your decision!
I'm lost in your pronouns.  Can you clarify?  Which is the fixture that is twice as bright and weighs 44lbs?
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on March 15, 2012, 10:03:21 AM
Thanks for the replies. I've looked at the new chauvet 560led, in fact I run a bunch of the qspot260led  so it makes sense, but my concerns are as follows:

Chauvet claims it's "almost" as bright as a 575 fixture, which means no where near as bright... But I really have to see it in person.

It's chauvet, and while I've had pretty good luck with their products for the most part, sometimes my clients hear chauvet and (if they know anything about lighting) give me a little look. I don't know why, it's just the stigma. I dont think I've lost any jobs because of it though...

I will definitely give them a hard look. Thanks for the suggestion.
Brightness and features are more important to me than weight and size, it would just be nice to keep it as light as possible.

Edit@tj, I think he was referring to the 560led being twice as bright @ 44 lbs

Thanks!

Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: duane massey on March 15, 2012, 12:11:45 PM
As you know, none of the fixtures out there are bullet-proof, and we have all had different luck with specific brands. I've had very bad results with Chauvet, but good results w. ADJ/Elation. Others have had great luck with Chauvet, not so much with ADJ, etc.
If you're investing for the long run, LED's make more sense. If you're looking for best $$ value, used from a reliable source, regardless of the lamp type, might make more sense. Something that you should consider is the type of support you can expect in your area, unless you can do your own tech work.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Ken Shaner on March 15, 2012, 01:15:21 PM
I'm lost in your pronouns.  Can you clarify?  Which is the fixture that is twice as bright and weighs 44lbs?

 that's what i get for posting when i'm tired  ;) Although, i think it's quite understandable. The 560 LED is twice as bright as the 250 watt fixture and weighs only 44lbs. As far as how bright they truly are, i haven't seen them in person but i have spoken with someone that owns a pair and he assures me that they are as bright as if not brighter than a 575 watt fixture. As far as the Chauvet name, about 10 years ago we wouldn't touch the Chauvet Stuff, we just felt their brand was not as high quality as other products out there. But, After some personal bad experiences with ADJ/Elation we decided to slowly give them another shot. Chauvet definitely has MUCH more reliable products then they did back then imho. We now have a LOT of the Chauvet products from their Slim Par 56's and 64's , GVC Lasers, Haze Machines, Movers, etc....AND, we use their Show Xpress DMX Software for our lighting now. Needless to say , We're sold :) But it's all really a matter of personal preference. Good luck!
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Thomas Bishop on March 17, 2012, 12:01:32 AM
I had four Platinum Spots, now down to two and can't wait to get rid of them.  They're amazing lights....... when they work.  They just don't hold up to life on the road.  Three out of four have had major problems.  The pan motor locked up on one, sensor issues, etc.  Gobos are tiny so anything custom will almost always be glass.  I've found that because of the internal heat the custom gobos have cracked and/or "peeled."  This is probably an issue with the gobo supplier, but they say it's an issue with the light (of course).

The frost filter makes it amazing for DJ gigs.  I can wash an entire ballroom in a color (scroll) with two lights with the frost filter engaged.  Send me your email and I'll send you pictures if you're interested.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on March 17, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
Thanks for the reply. I'd love to see some pictures. Nick.eventprolive at gmail.com

Though you're making me strongly consider more of the chauvet units, and those 560led units look nice. What are you using now that you are trying to phase out the 5Rs?

Did you pick up the 5R right after their release? Do you question the quality of the units or do you think it was just some early issues with the line?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: James Feenstra on March 17, 2012, 04:30:23 PM
I assume you're looking for spots? If you want a wash light, the chauvet qwash 360z is in that price range (at about 1400-1500/fixture) and are great rgbw moving wash

as for spots, can't go wrong with martin....easy to fix, standard gobos, etc

should easily be able to find kryptons for under $2000/piece
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on March 17, 2012, 05:07:13 PM
I assume you're looking for spots? If you want a wash light, the chauvet qwash 360z is in that price range (at about 1400-1500/fixture) and are great rgbw moving wash

as for spots, can't go wrong with martin....easy to fix, standard gobos, etc

should easily be able to find kryptons for under $2000/piece


Yes, I'm looking for spots.

The current landscape of my market kind of looks like this...
I have a pretty good hold on the mid market. I provide for a lot of dj companies, and I do a lot of special and private, and corporate work. Then there's a hand full of full service production houses, the one that I'm most closely affiliated with runs Martin gear, though all 575 and up sized fixtures. I've thought about going the Martin route for cross rental and tech reasons, and could source some entours in my budget range, but features/price was definitely in favor of the elations, or even the chauvet units. I also hear that Martin is adding some new fixtures to it's lineup soon so I'm hesitant to buy into units possibly soon to be discontinued.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: James Feenstra on March 18, 2012, 02:01:34 PM
martin keeps stock on their parts for at least 6-7 years after they discontinue products

2ks have been discontinued for quite some time and parts are still incredibly easy to get.

try finding parts for discontinued fixtures from less common companies (ie. chauvet, elation) is considerably more difficult unless it's something that's used in their current fixtures.

cross renting martin also seems to be much easier than other brands of lights, due to how well they're known.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Jeffhtg (Jeff Kenney) on March 21, 2012, 12:17:11 AM
Hey all!

I'm looking to purchase some new moving heads and would like some input/recommendations on what you guys use/like.

Budget: $2,000 per fixture, would like to keep it to around $1,500 if possible. I'm open to buying used.

Used for: DJ shows, corporate events, weddings for gobo projections etc.

Requirements/Specifics: Does not need to be LED but I am open to it, I normally have pretty solid power at my venues, but of course I'd prefer to stay away from power hogs if possible. Would like as bright, and light/easy to move as possible. Space isn't a concern and I have trucks for transport but who wants to lug around anything larger/heavier than they have to? Basically looking for some good, solid movers with a nice feature set. They won't be thrown around, but I won't be the only one using them so I can't guarantee they will be babied either.

I'm really digging these platinum spot 5R's from elation but I've heard some concrens about reliability and issues with weird gobo sizes. I figured they were a bit better built and had a better feature set than the ADJ vizi 5Rs... Are my concerns justified? Should I be looking at something else? They seem to have the best balance for my criteria and intended use. Would love to hear some opinions!

Thanks!

Buy LED wash and discharge spots for now.

Most crossrentable light in existance right now is the mac 101. Super small.. super scaleable.. you can always rent more. you can put 5 of them on pipe and base with 1 powercon feed.. can't beat that.

Until RGB engines really start coming out (and we are STARTING to see them) the spots will not have enough oomph while they have to cut thru a dichro.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Fernando Lopez on March 28, 2012, 05:07:24 PM
Buy LED wash and discharge spots for now.

Most crossrentable light in existance right now is the mac 101. Super small.. super scaleable.. you can always rent more. you can put 5 of them on pipe and base with 1 powercon feed.. can't beat that.

Until RGB engines really start coming out (and we are STARTING to see them) the spots will not have enough oomph while they have to cut thru a dichro.


I currently have 8 mac 101s and 6 Qspot 260s

When used together the mac101s are wayyy brighter. But the Qspots have been flawless and are bright enough for most indoor and small outdoor shows.

I really love the martin case for the 101s, 8 of them fit in a case that is smalle then one that holds 2 mac250s


All pics with the radiance hazer at 622

Qspots:
(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/camplg/IMG-20120321-00108.jpg)

Qspots:
(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/camplg/IMG-20120321-00106.jpg)

Mac101s:
(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/camplg/IMG-20120309-00089.jpg)



Mac101s:
(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/camplg/IMG-20120309-00090.jpg)



Mac101s:
(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/camplg/IMG-20120309-00091.jpg)

Mac101 case:
(http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu311/camplg/IMG-20110927-00122.jpg)
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Tim Weaver on March 28, 2012, 07:05:50 PM
I know you're looking for spots but I would probably buy some Martin Mac 101's and the Mac250 Entours.  Keeping it all Martin will do you good in the cross rental and serviceability department.

Now if you could stretch yourself a little I bet the Clay Paky Sharpy would be in demand as well.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on March 30, 2012, 09:34:41 AM
I know you're looking for spots but I would probably buy some Martin Mac 101's and the Mac250 Entours.  Keeping it all Martin will do you good in the cross rental and serviceability department.

Now if you could stretch yourself a little I bet the Clay Paky Sharpy would be in demand as well.

This might be good advice...

I bought just a pair of the Platinum Spot 5Rs to see what the deal was with them thinking that I would like them and just add more. They are sweet lights- really awesome feature set, but out of the box I got one with a bad tilt motor.

My distributor said he had problems with the first batch of units, but they have been fine since. I'm leary getting one with a bad motor out of the box. I don't want to go down the road T. Bishop went down and then have to ditch them all later, or worse yet have them fail at a show. It's tough because the feature set is so great, and the brightness on them would no doubt beat out an entour (and they're cheaper), but there's something to be said for reliability. Now, the question is... do I swap the bad unit, or send both back and just get the entours? (or krytpons?) I really, really liked the frost filter. For the e vents I do, having spot/wash in one fixture would be a great asset. Maybe design spot 250s?
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: mark lonow on March 31, 2012, 08:16:46 AM
This might be good advice...

I bought just a pair of the Platinum Spot 5Rs to see what the deal was with them thinking that I would like them and just add more. They are sweet lights- really awesome feature set, but out of the box I got one with a bad tilt motor.

My distributor said he had problems with the first batch of units, but they have been fine since. I'm leary getting one with a bad motor out of the box. I don't want to go down the road T. Bishop went down and then have to ditch them all later, or worse yet have them fail at a show. It's tough because the feature set is so great, and the brightness on them would no doubt beat out an entour (and they're cheaper), but there's something to be said for reliability. Now, the question is... do I swap the bad unit, or send both back and just get the entours? (or krytpons?) I really, really liked the frost filter. For the e vents I do, having spot/wash in one fixture would be a great asset. Maybe design spot 250s?

i get lot of mixed reviews on relibility wit elation
my mac 250 kryptons have been basicly  flawless for 6 years   
get entours for shure  if ur trim is over 15' regurley
the martin krypton/entours have better colors and gobos so it "looks" better to me then  the elation plat 5r
the elation 5r light is a little britter  but no orange is a killer
i would  MABY  consider the elation line for a cheap cym solution

elation is gainin ground in the tour market (thanx partly to the sharpy/5r)
im seein prerig truss with big varilites and little elation 5r in them  this year
the am dj  vizi beamz where out with family fource 5
the british pink floyd show is carryin  some where around  40 new  elation 5r beams after 1 mouth of dates 2 had issues

befor the sharpy craz there was coemarz infinty acl s that caught my eye and its cym(maby buy used)
http://www.coemar.com/prodotti_dettaglio.aspx?flag=eng&str_navigazione=&cerca=&id_categorie=105&page=1&id_prodotti=305

101 looks like crap to me on a lot of colors   
301 looks less pixillated/color comes out bit more premixed

now a dayz  its all about the mac aura
tho i wish there was a lower priced version with out the aura lol  or a rgbaw version
theres always next year  :-\
how come martin does not have a 5r fixture?
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on March 31, 2012, 06:27:02 PM
On my phone but just got back from my distributor. Was going to swap for entours but apparantly the mac250 have or are in the very immediate future getting discontinued. I can get kryptons w a little wait, but i opted to have the bad 5r swapped out. Ill have to see what martin decides to replace them w then make a call. Kinda bummed. I did thee the krypton and 5R side by side. 5r wwas def brighter but no idea of the bulb life left on the mac. We shall see. Guess its just a waiting game? I hope martin releases something soon, but i doubt it.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: James Feenstra on March 31, 2012, 10:30:10 PM
On my phone but just got back from my distributor. Was going to swap for entours but apparantly the mac250 have or are in the very immediate future getting discontinued. I can get kryptons w a little wait, but i opted to have the bad 5r swapped out. Ill have to see what martin decides to replace them w then make a call. Kinda bummed. I did thee the krypton and 5R side by side. 5r wwas def brighter but no idea of the bulb life left on the mac. We shall see. Guess its just a waiting game? I hope martin releases something soon, but i doubt it.
Even discontinued you'll be able to get parts until at least 2020....by which time there will be about 40 new products of if not more. Hell, lighting/sound/concerts might not even exist by then haha
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on April 02, 2012, 02:22:24 AM
Even discontinued you'll be able to get parts until at least 2020....by which time there will be about 40 new products of if not more. Hell, lighting/sound/concerts might not even exist by then haha

True, but I'd expect a replacement by maybe infocomm? Just kinda hurts buying into a discontinued line. I think I'll hang on to the 5r and see what Martin comes with as an answer.

Someone earlier mentioned the sharpy, but pricing on those isn't even a little stretch, it's almost double the 5r/mac250 range...
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: LightMike on April 10, 2012, 09:17:33 PM
[Not true about LED's not having enough OOmph to cut through a Dichroic! Have you ever seen the Blizzard Torrent 90's? Dual Gobo wheels (1 rotating, 1 static), focus, iris, dimmer, rotating prism (x3) AND it's at least as bright as a 575 Discharge,Lux: 47,900 @ 1m, 8,232 @ 2.5m
 I've used one, and it's under 26 lbs.  The chauvet 260 is pretty cool,as you know, but isn't as bright as a 250 discharge- almost, but not quite. the 560 should be brighter than a 250 but less than a 575.  But it's brand new, and I always wait until gear's been out a year- too many bugs show up sometimes... I've been using 6 of the Chauvet led 260's for 1.5 years now, and absolutely NO problems with them. AT the price I get them at ($750-800), I can get twice as many of them as elations, 3-4x as many as Martins...I'm not a dealer for any brand, just use what works best for each venue...

Mike Morrow
LightMike Productions
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Thomas Bishop on April 11, 2012, 02:49:10 AM
Hey, Nick.  I've been so torn with the Platinum Spots, literally have lost sleep over it.  They're amazing lights, nothing even comes close at the price range.  Every time I use them (and they work) I realize that I can't replace them with anything.  So I have just decided to start buying the 5R Pro.  CMY and zoom added to the already impressive feature set make it a no brainer.  I know I've bad mouthed them and keep going back and forth with my love/hate relationship with the PS5R, but until something else comes along I'm stuck with them.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Steve (Stevie Ray) Kalbach on April 11, 2012, 09:45:52 AM
Hey, Nick.  I've been so torn with the Platinum Spots, literally have lost sleep over it.  They're amazing lights, nothing even comes close at the price range.  Every time I use them (and they work) I realize that I can't replace them with anything.  So I have just decided to start buying the 5R Pro.  CMY and zoom added to the already impressive feature set make it a no brainer.  I know I've bad mouthed them and keep going back and forth with my love/hate relationship with the PS5R, but until something else comes along I'm stuck with them.

Well you can always look into....
The DTS Jack (http://www.dts-lighting.com/JACK)
or
Clay Paky Sharpy (http://www.claypaky.it/en/products/sharpy)

Same Platinum 5R light source, with a ton of features.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Randall Cook on April 24, 2012, 05:29:00 PM
Well you can always look into....
The DTS Jack (http://www.dts-lighting.com/JACK)
or
Clay Paky Sharpy (http://www.claypaky.it/en/products/sharpy)

Same Platinum 5R light source, with a ton of features.

What kind of prices are on the DTS Jack and the Clay Sharpy?
Also, the specs on the sharpy say beam angle is very small or am I reading that wrong?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Tim Weaver on April 24, 2012, 09:43:18 PM
What kind of prices are on the DTS Jack and the Clay Sharpy?
Also, the specs on the sharpy say beam angle is very small or am I reading that wrong?
Thanks!


You're right. The Sharpy is basically a moving ACL type effect. Hella bright though.

Beam spread is 0 degrees, but the beam width is as wide as the lens. It has a few effects that give it a spread though, so it's not a one trick pony. It's very fast too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1QiHABc3g4
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: James Feenstra on May 02, 2012, 02:07:52 AM

You're right. The Sharpy is basically a moving ACL type effect. Hella bright though.

Beam spread is 0 degrees, but the beam width is as wide as the lens. It has a few effects that give it a spread though, so it's not a one trick pony. It's very fast too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1QiHABc3g4
for moving lights I could really care less how fast they can move...I'm more concerned with how well they perform moving extremely slow, as at high trim heights (20+ feet) a few inches of movement is a huge amount when it hits the stage, so generally effects are programmed slower.

anything with 8 bit movement fails horribly at slow movement :)
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on May 03, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
All of the above is true, but they are no where near the price range I listed. (approx. 2k/fixture, the sharpy's come in closer to 4k a pop.) I went with the 5Rs and am sticking with them for now. So far they seem OK- I did have one with a bad tilt motor out of the box, but it was quickly taken care of. So far, pretty good, but haven't been really used hard. They are brighter, lighter, more feature rich etc when compared to the Martin lights I was looking at (250 entours) I'm still up in the air, but if they continue to work reliably, I'll be very happy with the purchase. I suppose time will tell.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on July 12, 2012, 09:11:05 AM
So bringing this thread back up to follow up on my experience  with the Elation heads I went with...

I purchased two test units with the intent of adding 6 more to inventory once I got familiar with them (and sold off some existing inventory) Here's my experience.

1 out of the initial two had a bad tilt motor out of the box. Returned that unit and swapped it out for another new unit. That unit had a bad grinding noise on tilt movements out of the box. Went to swap that out today. Brought up another unit from the warehouse and decided to run it before making the swap. Electrical issues with that one out of the box. Brought up yet another unit from the warehouse and opened that one up, plugged it in, wouldn't power up. DOA.

4/5 had issues out of the box. Needless to say, all four bad units are going back to elation and the 5th is being removed from inventory and sent back as well. I will be buying into another line, and will probably not do much business with Elation going forward. I need to decide what that next line will be, but potentially the new Martin units when they come out if i can hold out that long on dry-rentals. Just wanted to post my experience, and I'm open to suggestions on units to look into if anyone has had good experiences. Looking for well-featured small profiles in the 2-3k range per light.

Back to the drawing board. I'm tempted to go with mac350s, but I'm hearing martin is getting ready to drop a new line- possibly at LDI, but I don't think I can wait that long...
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: duane massey on July 12, 2012, 08:11:55 PM
Truly disappointing news on the Elation products. Up until recently I've had much better luck up until the last year or so with Elation/ADJ in terms of products and service. Since I'm not actively involved in selling gear any longer I am beginning to suspect everyone is becoming more complacent in the industry about such minor details as customer service and quality control.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: John Livings on July 13, 2012, 08:36:27 PM
Hi Nick,

Thanks for sharing, Not good news.

Regards,  John
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on July 13, 2012, 10:24:59 PM
Hi Nick,

Thanks for sharing, Not good news.

Regards,  John

Yep, I'm not exactly thrilled. I'm not really overly impressed by any manufacturer right now.

I'll have a good look at the new blizzard torrent f5 when it drops, and I just got turned onto these... Basically a 5r based shogun... http://www.mega-lite.com/prolight/autoLight/halo5r/

Anyone know anything about them? I'm hearing good things, 2kish range per fixtures. Well featured. I'm looking hard at these now too...
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: James Feenstra on July 13, 2012, 10:34:03 PM
Yep, I'm not exactly thrilled. I'm not really overly impressed by any manufacturer right now.

I'll have a good look at the new blizzard torrent f5 when it drops, and I just got turned onto these... Basically a 5r based shogun... http://www.mega-lite.com/prolight/autoLight/halo5r/

Anyone know anything about them? I'm hearing good things, 2kish range per fixtures. Well featured. I'm looking hard at these now too...
if they're in the 2k price range per light they may be worth checking out. Only thing I don't like is no color mixing with the main light, just rgb mixing through the LEDs (which you can't change the beam of, 45 degrees is quite wide)
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on July 15, 2012, 02:18:30 AM
if they're in the 2k price range per light they may be worth checking out. Only thing I don't like is no color mixing with the main light, just rgb mixing through the LEDs (which you can't change the beam of, 45 degrees is quite wide)

I'll get exact pricing on them next week. And, you have to remember that it's a beam effect- not a small profile spot. So custom gobos and color mixing are not present, but it's a pretty sweet looking light. It has optional 25 degree beam on the wash, but its still more of a glitz thing than an actual wash. I'm planning on getting a demo of them soon. Pictures and video seem cool- not much "review" type info on them, but they seem like they could either be awesome lights, or be cheesy as hell.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: James Feenstra on July 15, 2012, 05:13:23 PM
I'll get exact pricing on them next week. And, you have to remember that it's a beam effect- not a small profile spot. So custom gobos and color mixing are not present, but it's a pretty sweet looking light. It has optional 25 degree beam on the wash, but its still more of a glitz thing than an actual wash. I'm planning on getting a demo of them soon. Pictures and video seem cool- not much "review" type info on them, but they seem like they could either be awesome lights, or be cheesy as hell.
imo there's no reason a light should't color mix these days. I personally wouldn't buy a light that can't, as their applications are much more limited.

I've also never understood this whole beam light category that seems to have popped up lately as a huge selling feature of mediocre fixtures (ie. sharpys). Seems to me like someone was too lazy to use an iris, cause it does the same thing.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on October 17, 2012, 09:21:38 AM
Bringing this thread back...

So the new Blizzard F5's seem to be pretty sweet, but another option we didn't discuss that I just came across is the Chauvet Legend 300E. Anyone with any experience with them? Nicely featured, right in that price bracket. Thoughts anyone?
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Tim Weaver on October 17, 2012, 10:10:48 AM
Yep, I'm not exactly thrilled. I'm not really overly impressed by any manufacturer right now.

I'll have a good look at the new blizzard torrent f5 when it drops, and I just got turned onto these... Basically a 5r based shogun... http://www.mega-lite.com/prolight/autoLight/halo5r/

Anyone know anything about them? I'm hearing good things, 2kish range per fixtures. Well featured. I'm looking hard at these now too...

I saw 4 of the Mega-Lite's recently. The room was not darkened/hazed for a show as this was a corporate function.

The LED ring is cool, and semi-bright. The beam fixture itself was very bright, however I noticed that the movement was not as smooth and fast as a High-end or martin light would be. It's in the ADJ/Chauvet segment so I would've expected this anyway. The beam effect worked very well, however when irised out for a wash the field of light was not very smooth. There were definite hot spots giving an overall "splotchy" wash.

The LED rings are controllable in 4 sections at least. I'm not sure if you can control individual LED's (for pixel mapping).
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on October 26, 2012, 11:14:32 AM
Thanks for the insight on the mega lites. I'm still trying to find a workable solution. I've got a few of the Torrent F5's right now, but I'm hoping someone can give me some insight on these 300E spots from Chauvet. CMY, Zoom, I just can't find ANY info on them review-wise. I think I'd up the budget to 2,500/per... any other suggestions from anyone?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Fernando Lopez on March 17, 2013, 12:49:05 AM
My Qspot 260s are still going strong. So are the MAC 101s

I saw that Chauvet also has a new S230E that looks really nice. Any one has any experience on that light?


Thanks,
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Josh Daws on March 20, 2013, 06:40:51 PM
S230E?????? not a chauvet model...??
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Fernando Lopez on March 20, 2013, 08:43:53 PM
S230E?????? not a chauvet model...??


sorry this model: http://www.chauvetlighting.com/legend-230sr-beam.html
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Nick Pignetti on March 21, 2013, 01:55:23 PM

sorry this model: http://www.chauvetlighting.com/legend-230sr-beam.html

Looks similar to the clay paky sharpy. I have not seen them in person, but I hear they are awesome. Very bright, beams, with some cool features. They have gone out on a few tours. I'm a Chauvet dealer, and I've been eye-ing them up. I may bring a few in to see what all the hype's about. If I do, I'll let  you all know.
Title: Re: Advice on new Moving Heads
Post by: Josh Daws on March 21, 2013, 03:31:11 PM
i haven't had any experience aside from a sales rep trying to sell me on it. its is great! i would put it up there as a suitable sharpy knockoff...has some great FX, gobo's, etc, very smooth too!...