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Title: Rental LCD screens
Post by: Tim Hite on August 26, 2019, 01:55:05 PM
I'm starting to get asked to provide LCD screens for corporate presentations and I need to buy one or two. What do I need to be aware of here?

Was planning on picking up a 4K 65" LG LED LCD (not OLED) from Costco and K&M 26783 stand to mount it on for use. I'll surely have to get an ATA case for the screens, as well.

Any issues with going this route or do I need to pop for the LG commercial displays?
Title: Re: Rental LED screens
Post by: Mac Kerr on August 26, 2019, 02:39:39 PM
I'm starting to get asked to provide LED screens for corporate presentations and I need to buy one or two. What do I need to be aware of here?

Was planning on picking up a 4K 65" LG LED LCD (not OLED) from Costco and K&M 26783 stand to mount it on for use. I'll surely have to get an ATA case for the screens, as well.

Any issues with going this route or do I need to pop for the LG commercial displays?

That is not what I think of when someone uses the term "LED Screen". Are you sure that they are asking for that type of monitor? To me "LED Screens" for corporate presentations are bigger than 9'x12' and require rigging or very heavy ground support systems. The show I'm on currently has 16 20'x40' flown LED screens arranged as 8 double sided curved arrays.

If what they're looking for is 65"-80" monitors it will come down to how long you expect them to last. Consumer level displays may not hold up to transport and constant set up and strike. Cases for them will probably cost significantly more than the consumer displays.

Mac
Title: Re: Rental LED screens
Post by: Rick Earl on August 26, 2019, 03:24:38 PM
That is not what I think of when someone uses the term "LED Screen". Are you sure that they are asking for that type of monitor? To me "LED Screens" for corporate presentations are bigger than 9'x12' and require rigging or very heavy ground support systems. The show I'm on currently has 16 20'x40' flown LED screens arranged as 8 double sided curved arrays.

If what they're looking for is 65"-80" monitors it will come down to how long you expect them to last. Consumer level displays may not hold up to transport and constant set up and strike. Cases for them will probably cost significantly more than the consumer displays.

Mac

^^^  What he said  ^^^  and more...

If it is BIG led displays they are looking for, depending on your business model, you might be better of with a sub-hire.  Most video companies are used to this and integrate seamlessly.  They can be scalable, more agile, know their gear, and have spares.  They will also keep up with technology.

If it is a smaller LCD / LED monitor  - the consumer level stuff can burn you at the wrong time.  They are not designed to bounce down the road, even in a case.  The build quality between commercial and consumer displaces is easily noticeable.
Title: Re: Rental LCD screens
Post by: Tim Hite on August 26, 2019, 11:59:53 PM
I've changed the title of this thread. I am definitely looking for 65" LCD displays. I'm definitely not looking for LED display wall systems.

According to my LG Commercial display rep a few months back, none of the LCDs on the market are particularly designed for frequent transport. This is what's leading me to question whether or not I really need to spend 4x the money for a commercial grade display.

Has anyone got a brand or model to recommend?
Title: Re: Rental LCD screens
Post by: Jordan Wolf on August 27, 2019, 12:06:09 AM
NEC, Planar, Panasonic, Samsung and ELO are all common brands I see in corpy & exhibit land.

They heavy and they have a ton of tweakable options backed up with technical support and a repair network to suit the bill.

Title: Re: Rental LCD screens
Post by: Scott Holtzman on August 27, 2019, 01:28:26 AM
I've changed the title of this thread. I am definitely looking for 65" LCD displays. I'm definitely not looking for LED display wall systems.

According to my LG Commercial display rep a few months back, none of the LCDs on the market are particularly designed for frequent transport. This is what's leading me to question whether or not I really need to spend 4x the money for a commercial grade display.

Has anyone got a brand or model to recommend?

The cases are far more expensive than the monitors.  Here in the great frozen north even the big boys in town bring out LG our whatever they got a decent deal on.  SDI converter velcroed to the back and you are off to the races. 

We do a minimum of 1 spare or a 4:1 on larger gigs.  I know they are going to fail, just not sure when.  They pay for themselves so fast it just doesn't matter.  We mount them on truss totems or heavy bases with a couple of uprights.  I can dig up some pics if you would like.
Title: Re: Rental LCD screens
Post by: Tim Hite on August 27, 2019, 12:02:57 PM
Thanks Scott. I've already seen most of the mount options at various shows. Looking at one of the pop-up ATA cases with a lift so I can take the screens out on my own for small gigs.

I have enough business right now to pay for one of the cheap screens and some of the case.

The cases are far more expensive than the monitors.  Here in the great frozen north even the big boys in town bring out LG our whatever they got a decent deal on.  SDI converter velcroed to the back and you are off to the races. 

We do a minimum of 1 spare or a 4:1 on larger gigs.  I know they are going to fail, just not sure when.  They pay for themselves so fast it just doesn't matter.  We mount them on truss totems or heavy bases with a couple of uprights.  I can dig up some pics if you would like.
Title: Re: Rental LCD screens
Post by: Jordan Wolf on August 27, 2019, 08:53:46 PM
...Looking at one of the pop-up ATA cases with a lift so I can take the screens out on my own for small gigs.
Yeah...even though the TVs/Monitors have gotten lighter, jack-in-the-box cases are still pretty hefty. They can be a two-person lush even on flat, low-pile carpet - especially with transitions in doorways and around corners.

Consider that when transporting and shipping, as well.