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Title: Compact delay box?
Post by: Chris Poynter on January 23, 2019, 11:56:20 AM
Does anyone in here have suggestions for a compact delay box? I like the look of the Rolls HRD342, but the reviews online leave me questioning it! I'll be using it to delay back/side fill speakers.
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Robert Healey on January 23, 2019, 12:06:21 PM
Does anyone in here have suggestions for a compact delay box? I like the look of the Rolls HRD342, but the reviews online leave me questioning it! I'll be using it to delay back/side fill speakers.

Shure DFR11EQs are getting old but should still do the trick and are available for under $50 on eBay.
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Jerome Malsack on January 23, 2019, 12:20:48 PM
have you looked at behringer shark. 
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-FBQ100-BEHRINGER-SHARK/dp/B0051TZBTU

I use this for the delay's and high pass filter.  Usually High pass at the sub woofer cutoff. 100 hz.
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Dave Garoutte on January 23, 2019, 12:29:04 PM
A lot of the new gen powered speakers have delay built in, K2.2, DZR. . .
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Scott Helmke on January 23, 2019, 12:41:11 PM
Shure DFR11EQs are getting old but should still do the trick and are available for under $50 on eBay.

Is anybody actually able to program these units nowadays?  Last time I did I was using an old XP laptop and the software still crashed fairly often.
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Spenser Hamilton on January 23, 2019, 02:42:43 PM
Does anyone in here have suggestions for a compact delay box? I like the look of the Rolls HRD342, but the reviews online leave me questioning it! I'll be using it to delay back/side fill speakers.

BLU-50?

https://bssaudio.com/en/products/blu-50
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Frank Czar on January 23, 2019, 06:19:32 PM
Years ago I used the Behringer Shark, I can vouch for the delay part of it, it worked fine. I never used any of the other stuff it offers, fb suppression, comp, gate, eq. tiny package and $99.00
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Mike Caldwell on January 23, 2019, 08:37:31 PM
Is anybody actually able to program these units nowadays?  Last time I did I was using an old XP laptop and the software still crashed fairly often.

I have an old XP lap top with a real serial port that runs the software just fine, there was/is a couple versions of the software kind of depends on the hardware version DFR11 you have as to the software version it likes the best.

I still use a couple DFR11's in some 70 volt paging systems I set up from time to time.

As for the original question, Klark Teknik made a lot of dedicated delay lines you can pick up fairly cheap these days.
I have a KT 7103 that still works great...should I ever need to use it anymore.
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Tom Bourke on January 23, 2019, 09:07:02 PM
Is anybody actually able to program these units nowadays?  Last time I did I was using an old XP laptop and the software still crashed fairly often.
I have one in line with my hometheater subs.  I have an old thinkpad with win 7 that runs the software. Ok ish for a set and forget.  I don't remember what I had to do to get it to run.
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Len Zenith Jr on January 23, 2019, 09:12:01 PM
MiniDSP is another option: https://www.minidsp.com/products/minidsp-in-a-box/minidsp-balanced-2x4 (https://www.minidsp.com/products/minidsp-in-a-box/minidsp-balanced-2x4)
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: brian maddox on January 23, 2019, 09:34:39 PM
have you looked at behringer shark. 
https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-FBQ100-BEHRINGER-SHARK/dp/B0051TZBTU

I use this for the delay's and high pass filter.  Usually High pass at the sub woofer cutoff. 100 hz.

^^this

Only real issue i had with these is they have a very specific external power supply that is easy to lose, and hard to find/replace.  But these work great and have all the right connectors and such. 
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Scott Helmke on January 23, 2019, 10:21:57 PM
MiniDSP is another option: https://www.minidsp.com/products/minidsp-in-a-box/minidsp-balanced-2x4 (https://www.minidsp.com/products/minidsp-in-a-box/minidsp-balanced-2x4)

Oh yeah, MiniDSP is good. I put one of their 2x4 cards into a special project some 5-6 years ago, and it's been rock solid.
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Lou Kohley on January 24, 2019, 01:24:46 AM
Wait. I had read that the minidsp has a limited amount of delay.
Is it capable of doing 100ms or more?

That would be a handy little box to have around.

LOU
Title: Re: Compact delay box?
Post by: Dan Richardson on January 24, 2019, 09:10:33 AM
Does anyone in here have suggestions for a compact delay box? I like the look of the Rolls HRD342, but the reviews online leave me questioning it! I'll be using it to delay back/side fill speakers.

QSC's DSP-4 can sometimes be had for very cheap. It's another XP serial port dealio.