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Title: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: Roland Clarke 1964 on May 27, 2010, 12:24:30 PM

I'm looking at putting together a small rig for rock shows 500-1,000 people and am considering 2 TX1152's and 2 TX2181's a side.  I wonder what experiences you may have with either of the above and if there is anything else around this price point I should be considering.  Any comments or opinions greatfully received!

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: Greg Harwood on May 27, 2010, 03:17:04 PM

I'm sure you'll get lots of suggestions and opinions, (and additional questions) but I think you'd be lucky to do 500 people with that rig at decent volumes....forget 1000 (unless it's very modest levels).

I will say I've not heard any of the TX mains and subs, but I own the TX 12" monitors and like them alot.  They are small, light, sound good and can get quite loud.

I own a basic Phoenix rig ((2)PX2152/(2)PX2181) and would really be pushed to cover 500 folks at rock levels...and these things get loud.  It will take quite the system to do what you want.

You might want to look into EV's QRX line, Phoenix line, or JBL SRX.  JTR speakers are also worth a look.

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: Chris Hamilton on May 27, 2010, 11:53:25 PM

I use the TX2152s (dual 15 cabs) for mains for audiences up to around 300 people indoors with no problems. They get really loud and the amp (QSC PLX-3602) *sometimes* lights the -10 led on the front.  I wouldn't go less than the dual 15s for 500 people for sure but You would want some at least 2 per side of tops and subs to cover more than that, IMO.

As far as the performance goes I think they sound great. I often get complements about how clear the vocals are and how nice they sound.

-Chris

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: (BJ) Benjamin Fisher on May 28, 2010, 12:13:21 AM

It was my understanding EV no longer makes the Phoenix or QRX series...is this true? Sorry, I dont know much about EV.

In comparison to say, JBL, where does the TX line stand?

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: Bob Kenton on May 28, 2010, 02:22:25 AM

benjamin fisher wrote on Fri, 28 May 2010 05:13

It was my understanding EV no longer makes the Phoenix or QRX series...is this true? Sorry, I dont know much about EV. In comparison to say, JBL, where does the TX line stand?

Both lines are still in the line up. Tour X is probably around the JBL MRX line.

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: (BJ) Benjamin Fisher on May 28, 2010, 10:58:50 AM

Oh ok. All of the main websites I look at do not carry Phoenix or QRX (musiciansfriend, sweetwater, americanmusic, etc)

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: Brian Wynn on May 28, 2010, 11:24:26 AM

benjamin fisher wrote on Fri, 28 May 2010 09:58

Oh ok. All of the main websites I look at do not carry Phoenix or QRX (musiciansfriend, sweetwater, americanmusic, etc)

Thats because you have to be a special Phoenix signed dealer to sell it.

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: Evan F. Hunter on May 28, 2010, 03:29:22 PM

Usually for rock shows of 600 I end up on a Turbosound Flashlight system (2 per side) and 4 TSW21s per side. I would doubt the TX series could keep up with them on shows that size, sometimes it would be nice to have even more. I personally own EV QRX153s  and QRX115s, They are my favorite portable boxes. If I were you id lean more toward 2 QRx212s and 3 good dual 18s per side, still wouldnt use it at a 1000 person rock show but it should have some guts for shows just below that.

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: Jeff Wheeler on May 28, 2010, 05:21:48 PM

Roland Clarke 1964 wrote on Thu, 27 May 2010 11:24

I'm looking at putting together a small rig for rock shows 500-1,000 people and am considering 2 TX1152's and 2 TX2181's a side.

IMO two of these subs is about right for a bar gig.  Scaling them up to a 500-guest show would be pointless given the many superior subwoofer choices that pack more output and low-frequency response into a similar amount of truck/floor space.

The TX1152, I don't know.  Bidding 1000-guest jobs, you are going to be competing against providers with significantly better boxes.  So if you get those gigs, you will probably only get them on price, and probably only get them once before the customer realizes they screwed up by hiring you.  No offense intended; it's just not going to measure up to what others will offer the same events.  Ignore any analysis in this thread of whether or not it can be made to work, and think about it from a business perspective; and you will have your answer.

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: Roland Clarke 1964 on May 28, 2010, 09:44:58 PM

Thanks for peoples opinions above, perhaps I didn't phrase my question very well, I'm more interested in opinions about the sound quality of the EV's as against what else around this price from other manufacturers (both new or perhaps secondhand).  I don't want to get too caught up in the "volume for given audience thing" as too many people have the wrong impressions of this, the EV subs have a fairly decent output rating (doubling the subs to 4 per side, is only going to yield 3db extra level).  Are QSC and the JBL's the only viable alternatives, how do they compare sound wise?

Regards


Roland

Title: Re: EV Tour TX1152 - TX2181 opinions
Post by: Chris Strack on June 09, 2010, 09:26:36 PM

Roland here is my 2 cents for what it's worth. I happen to be a guitar player in a 4 piece Classic Rock band. The band owns all of its own PA Equipment. I bought the EV Tour TX1152 about a year ago or so and I absolutely love the boxes. We mostly use them over two Powered subs but we have also used the TX1152 for some smaller clubs we have played and they have performed great by themselves. Probably the biggest show we did with them with subs was 250-300 people.

But to answer your last question I listened to a ton of speakers in their price range and slightly above. I listened to the powered QSC HPR & K Series, JBL MXR 515, Mackies SRM450v2 and SR1521 and other EV's like ZX4 & ZX5, EV Eliminators. I just kept coming back to the TX1152.

I know a lot of people on this board seem to like QSC's HPR & K series but to me they weren't even close. To be honest I thought I would buy the QSC HPR when I started out, but my ears said buy the EV Tours. I am not bashing the QSC's I just didn't like them nearly as much as the EV tours.

Since my band has moved to the EV TX1152 we have had lots of compliments from people who come out to see us a lot about how much better we sound with them. A lot of that has come from friends who are musicians as well and probably more critical then the average joe.

Not sure if what I am saying will be popular here on this board but I am sticking to it. I would buy the EV Tours again tomorrow if my EV Tours fell off a back of a truck and were damaged or something.

I cannot speak to the subs as I don't own them and haven't heard them yet. I am about to start looking to upgrade my subs and the Tour Sub will for sure get a good listen. I will say I did listen to the EV TX1152 with QSC HPR181 powered subs and love that combo. But I have not compared various subs yet.

GOOD LUCK ..........