Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 19, 2007, 07:29:08 PM
but here's the place where people can start the posting.BTW if you're looking for Part I, you can find it here: http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/t/27901/9721/
Post by: Vic Cowles on December 19, 2007, 08:06:11 PM
Post by: Mac Kerr on December 19, 2007, 08:22:08 PM
| Vic Cowles wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 20:06 |
SHUT UP! I got closed because it got too STUPID! |
Mac
Post by: SteveKirby on December 19, 2007, 09:06:06 PM
Now, that's a long thread.
Post by: Dick Rees on December 19, 2007, 09:10:51 PM
| Vic Cowles wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 19:06 |
SHUT UP! I got closed because it got too STUPID! |
I think you may be referring to the other thread that got locked down.....the one about favorite amps for subs which waded into murky posting of opinions on questionable power. I trust Macs explanation and judgement. I, too , was enjoying the pretty pictures and picking up lots of information from just seeing how everyone was doing what with which.
So I suggest you take your own advice.
Oh...and as far as "I" got closed, my sympathies.
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 19, 2007, 09:14:11 PM
| Dick Rees wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 02:10 |
I, too , was enjoying the pretty pictures and picking up lots of information from just seeing how everyone was doing what with which. |
Same here. Every once in a while, I'll see a new trick, cool variation, or neat piece of hardware. I certainly wish I'd seen more threads like this before I started building my racks.
Post by: Mike McNany on December 19, 2007, 09:39:43 PM
BUT the big thing was I used the PLX1804's channel one speakon out for both top outputs (U15s) in stereo using 4 wire cable to my I/O panel's seperate monitor speakon outputs. Saved one Speakon plug by doing so. The PLX 1104 & 1804 only have speakon outs but the channel one also has channel two on the speakon +2, -2 terminals.
When I get the 1602 back I'll have a chance to try bi-amping the U15s. Although if we like it, that'll open a new can of worms since I use four wire to feed top & sub to each side bar stack.
Mike McNany
Post by: Ed Peterson on December 19, 2007, 10:39:02 PM
Mike McNany[/quote]
Six or eight wire? I use eight wire and double the copper to the subs
Post by: Vic Cowles on December 19, 2007, 10:43:22 PM
Mac, your right it's just a forum. Think I'll leave for awhile. If it wasn't for folks attackin personal opinions, There'd be less than half the posts. I have learned alot from people who know alot more than me here. Also, plannin on a new signature line. It'll have something to do with the arrogance of our industry.
Vic
Post by: Vic Cowles on December 19, 2007, 10:50:47 PM
Post by: Jim Duyck on December 19, 2007, 11:34:22 PM
| SteveKirby wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 20:06 |
Go to TheGearPage and look up New Eminence Speaker Content. 148 pages of discussion on the new Patriot/Redcoat line of EMI guitar speakers. Now, that's a long thread. |
nawwww....try the "your pedalboard - photo" thread - it's currently at 591 pages...
so what if i contributed to it! 
Post by: Sean Hayes on December 19, 2007, 11:39:32 PM
| Vic Cowles wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 20:06 |
Y'all need to lighten up. This is just an online forum, it's not your life. |
Actually
But honestly, I spend more time on this forum than any other website.
Post by: Shaun Crawford on December 20, 2007, 07:29:53 AM
ok, this 1 of my amp racks (currently), though the whole rack will get rebuilt. The other rack, I've never had a chance to take a picture of.
Post by: Jamie Taylor on December 20, 2007, 09:39:53 AM
Post by: Scott Smith on December 20, 2007, 10:04:08 AM
| Vic Cowles wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 22:43 |
...Mac, your right it's just a forum... If it wasn't for folks attackin personal opinions, There'd be less than half the posts. I have learned alot from people who know alot more than me here. Also, plannin on a new signature line. It'll have something to do with the arrogance of our industry. Vic |
+1
Post by: Mike McNany on December 20, 2007, 10:05:22 AM
| Ed Peterson wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 22:39 |
When I get the 1602 back I'll have a chance to try bi-amping the U15s. Although if we like it, that'll open a new can of worms since I use four wire to feed top & sub to each side bar stack. Mike McNany |
Six or eight wire? I use eight wire and double the copper to the subs [/quote]
THAT is exactly the can of worms I was referring to. NEW copper and it's interfacing. Buying all new cabling for FOH, making a new I/O panel to hold NL8s, getting NL8s, ect. NL4s fit in a small space on the rack and I already have enough 4 wire cable to do ANY job/setup we could possibly consider with our system.
Mike McNany
Post by: Mike McNany on December 20, 2007, 10:10:50 AM
Best price & value on rack drawers is still EWI at www.audiopile.net
They are also great for castors as is www.dblittle.com (if I have the addy right). Or use DBLittle's ebay store.
Mike McNany
Post by: Theo White on December 20, 2007, 11:41:34 AM
| SteveKirby wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 20:06 |
Go to TheGearPage and look up New Eminence Speaker Content. 148 pages of discussion on the new Patriot/Redcoat line of EMI guitar speakers. Now, that's a long thread. |
DJForums.com has a thread 174 pages long and three years old about the Bill Fitz Designs horn loaded subwoofers....
Post by: SteveKirby on December 20, 2007, 12:31:56 PM
| Jim Duyck wrote on Wed, 19 December 2007 22:34 | ||
nawwww....try the "your pedalboard - photo" thread - it's currently at 591 pages... so what if i contributed to it! |
Nah, I stay away from the pedal forums. Talk about flavor of the month. Perfectly happy with my Zendrive if I've stuck with a backline Twin.
Jamie, what kind of power connectors are on those rack packs? That looks like the things most of the hotels use around here in the wall.
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on December 20, 2007, 12:59:18 PM
| Jamie Taylor wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 09:39 |
not mine, a company I work for, but still, someone might find them interesting. |
QSC PL series knockoffs?
Looks like a PL4.0 and 2 PL2.0HV's...
Evan
Post by: Andrew Spotts on December 20, 2007, 01:07:43 PM
Andrew
Post by: Tim McCulloch on December 20, 2007, 01:20:47 PM
Tim MC
Post by: Adam Robinson on December 20, 2007, 01:48:58 PM
Post by: bo putnam on December 20, 2007, 04:01:48 PM
| Mike McNany wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 07:10 |
What's with the spacing between the power amps? That's for OLD amps only. All the QSC (nice choice) blow & suck the same direction so they work great close stacked. I count 4RU wasted right now (understand you are not finished with the rack), space enough for a couple more amps or even rack drawers. And with what you have and considering more for that rack, put some wheels on that if you value your nads |
All that, and a power distro, too, Shaun!
Post by: Shaun Crawford on December 20, 2007, 05:48:31 PM
*cough* that wasn't my doing. hehe
i bought that rack recently and pulled it out of that bar. my rack i have is all on top of each other. this will be fixed when i get a new rack with casters. the rack alone is a heavy beast.
Post by: Shaun Crawford on December 20, 2007, 05:50:15 PM
yup... i'm still debating between ampshop and uhh.. yeah... that other company for a power distro. i can't make up my mind.. lol.
Post by: The Guy on December 20, 2007, 05:52:45 PM
| Evan Kirkendall wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 12:59 |
QSC PL series knockoffs? Looks like a PL4.0 and 2 PL2.0HV's... Evan |
I don't think Clair is in the business of making Knockoff amps.
Their OEM stuff by QSC. I guess they have to go somewhere now that Carver isn't in the biz anymore!-JB
Post by: Adam Robinson on December 20, 2007, 06:26:37 PM
| Jim Bowersox wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 16:52 | ||
I don't think Clair is in the business of making Knockoff amps. Their OEM stuff by QSC. I guess they have to go somewhere now that Carver isn't in the biz anymore!-JB |
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! (The Carver sound revisits).
Both Clair and Meyer also had their names on Crest amps, I believe. Are they using these amps anymore? Last Clair tour I was on with an i4 rig, they were running Crest (non-Clair badged) amps (with a clamshell rack full of Carvers for the subs) and a new install of Clair i212s uses non-clair badged QSC PL3s.
Post by: Tom Manchester on December 20, 2007, 11:09:48 PM
). And then of course they use the old Carver amps they have a million of on just about anything. The Carvers seem to be out with the smaller 1-0ff type gigs with the older R and S boxes. The Clair branded smaller QSC stuff is generally what they sell with their retail'ed systems such as 12AM packages, or installs done by Clair's install department. I have not seen them use it much on their tours.
Post by: Tom Manchester on December 20, 2007, 11:17:06 PM
Post by: Jamie Taylor on December 20, 2007, 11:53:29 PM
| SteveKirby wrote on Fri, 21 December 2007 03:31 |
Jamie, what kind of power connectors are on those rack packs? That looks like the things most of the hotels use around here in the wall. |
They're CEE connectors. very common in Europe. the ones on those amps are single phase 32 amp. They're a much better alternative to the Australian standard we have.
Post by: Adam Robinson on December 21, 2007, 12:52:40 AM
Post by: SteveKirby on December 21, 2007, 12:40:46 PM
| Tom Manchester wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 22:17 |
Here Adam, this one is just for you. I pulled the normal Crown XS500 out of Amp Rack #4 and switched it for a Clair modified Carver PM2.0 Monoblock to run a Clair ML-18 for a drum fill in my monitor rig this weekend. Gotta keep it strictly Clair Pimp style |
Cool. Just curious, how do you hook the crossover to the monoblock?
Post by: Brad Ferguson on December 21, 2007, 05:10:54 PM
and 6 of these:
edit: the smaller rack with the 4 amps is not quite complete. I'm going to change out the 6u vented panel for a fan-based one, with a hi-lo-off fan switch. We're in Canada winter so we're not too worried about it, but by summer time, they'll be blowing air big time!
The big racks with the 2 A/C inputs on the front is entirely sealed at the back, and have fans on the slam-latch lid. To turn the fans hi-lo-off you open the slam latch and there's a switch inside.
Post by: Remy G. Santerre on December 21, 2007, 11:51:26 PM
The clean design & versatility has me drooling.
Post by: Chris Blust on December 22, 2007, 12:33:32 AM
| Brad Ferguson wrote on Fri, 21 December 2007 22:10 |
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What type of multi pin connector is that in the middle of the panel for chan 1-8?
Post by: Brad Ferguson on December 22, 2007, 12:35:40 AM
Post by: Geoffrey Brown on December 22, 2007, 01:04:09 AM
What part of Canada are you in? Always nice to see a local face.
Are you concerned about the possibility of human (or metal) contact with the exposed socapex pins? - Those labs should get pretty high output voltages...
Geoff
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 22, 2007, 01:29:38 AM
| Brad Ferguson wrote on Sat, 22 December 2007 05:35 |
Standard 19-pin socapex. We reverse the gender on the output of the amp rack so it's virtually impossible to plug a loudspeaker into a lighting dimmer. |
Might want to put a cover on that outlet. It would be a shocking experience making contact with those exposed pins.
Post by: Brad Ferguson on December 22, 2007, 02:12:36 AM
Ran the Band World audio shop for 3 years, now I'm inventory manager at Metalworks.
As far as the male soca goes, you both have a very valid point (i came into the shop one day and one of my staff hooked up a crown vz5002 to some full range music and he held onto the screw terminals of the output of the amp, and told me that he could "Feel the music"...
)It hasn't been an issue yet, but I was indeed planning on chaining on a cap to the panel. I know maybe half of everyone will actually replace the cap after use, but at least that safety will be there.
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on December 22, 2007, 02:25:34 AM
| Brad Ferguson wrote on Sat, 22 December 2007 07:12 |
It hasn't been an issue yet, but I was indeed planning on chaining on a cap to the panel. I know maybe half of everyone will actually replace the cap after use, but at least that safety will be there. |
I haven't found one yet, but I'll bet someone makes a NEMA 3R cover for Socapex. The advantage of a hinged cover is that it's always closed unless it's in use. PM me if you find one
Post by: Tom Manchester on December 22, 2007, 04:38:46 AM
| SteveKirby wrote on Fri, 21 December 2007 12:40 | ||
Cool. Just curious, how do you hook the crossover to the monoblock? |
With a Y cable of course
Actually an XS1200 will be powering the top box, there is an XLR cable that comes out of the crossover and plugs into another rack. More details to follow after tomorrow night's event.
And Brad if you ever get tired of those Lab Grupens and want to sell them for like, $50 shipped I'll take 'em
Post by: Brad Ferguson on December 22, 2007, 10:50:18 AM
That's what the Lab Gruppen Racks replaced. (and they're for sale!!)
Post by: Stuart Hogg on December 22, 2007, 01:47:27 PM
| Pascal Pincosy wrote on Sat, 22 December 2007 07:25 |
I haven't found one yet, but I'll bet someone makes a NEMA 3R cover for Socapex. The advantage of a hinged cover is that it's always closed unless it's in use. PM me if you find one |
That'll sort out the amp rack itself, but then you've got to think about every cable that you use, too. It's easy to see a scenario where somebody, say, repatches a breakout at the stacks whilst the amps are running...
Post by: Derek Shawver on December 23, 2007, 10:25:26 PM
| Brad Ferguson wrote on Sat, 22 December 2007 09:50 |
Tom, I'll let you know.. That's what the Lab Gruppen Racks replaced. (and they're for sale!!) |
for how much?
Post by: Aaron Kovacik on December 24, 2007, 04:32:00 PM
http://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v108/30/116/6 3604245/n63604245_30422063_6699.jpg
From my summer job with SAVI.
Post by: Vinny D'Agostino on December 25, 2007, 12:15:26 PM
So here is what I have for my FOH rack, it's not much compaired to what most of you use but it's mine and it's paid for
A trusty ole Ashly XR1001 crossover, a PLX3402 powering my RCF ART325i, and my new RMX4050HD powering a pair of Yorkville LS608's.
It does the job nicely
Post by: Jacco Labots on December 26, 2007, 09:15:09 AM
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Post by: Adam Whetham on December 26, 2007, 09:31:27 AM
Post by: Jacco Labots on December 26, 2007, 01:48:50 PM
I to use shrinking on the chassis backs.
Post by: Anton Stjernbrant on December 27, 2007, 12:01:19 PM
A DPA448 and three Labgruppen amps.
It will be configured to drive various L-acoustics products.
Anton
Post by: Dan O. Anderson on December 27, 2007, 03:57:01 PM
Post by: Kenny Rippel on December 28, 2007, 02:24:25 AM
3 way mains & 2 mix monitor rack.
4 way mains rack.
No pics of the backs...It's a rats nest back there
Post by: Patrick Tracy on December 29, 2007, 12:57:01 AM
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Post by: Donnie Evans on May 14, 2008, 10:00:43 AM
| Dave Barker wrote on Sat, 29 December 2007 12:31 |
And here is the back of the racks. For FOH I just run a 8 cond to each side. I was going to put a patch panel on the monitor rack but then just thought I can patch into the amps just as easy. Beauty of the monitor rack is that I can run all 4 amps on one circuit. I will sometimes also take it out on smaller gigs and connect up with a separate DSP and run a small rig with monitors off of it. |
I've always wondered why more people didnt mount their rack-packs in the back of the rack. When I get my amp rack done the way I want it, thats where I'm putting mine. I dont want any cords to have to plug in the front.
Post by: Duncan McLennan on May 14, 2008, 10:14:54 AM
| Donnie Evans wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 10:00 |
I've always wondered why more people didnt mount their rack-packs in the back of the rack. When I get my amp rack done the way I want it, thats where I'm putting mine. I dont want any cords to have to plug in the front. |
I think Rack Packs in the front makes a lot of sense. Power in the front, speaker power out the back. Keeps everything neat and tidy. And no rats nests of power and speaker cables to deal with.
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 14, 2008, 10:23:14 AM
Post by: Dan O. Anderson on May 14, 2008, 12:03:24 PM
| Quote: |
I've always wondered why more people didnt mount their rack-packs in the back of the rack. When I get my amp rack done the way I want it, thats where I'm putting mine. I dont want any cords to have to plug in the front. |
AGREED!
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 14, 2008, 02:14:20 PM
| Dan O. Anderson wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 12:03 | ||
AGREED! |
Dan are those NL4's? I've never seen the NL4 with the "4 corner" mounting holes. If they're NL8's....why?
Post by: Dan O. Anderson on May 14, 2008, 02:55:46 PM
http://www.neutrik.com/us/en/audio/210_188317775/NLT4MP_deta il.aspx
I think it took me a while to find 'em on mouser, but I eventually did. I remember thinking that someone would break off the other ones that just mount with two screws. So far, so good!
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=erV61lVMm P8VfAbzeaoWdA%3d%3d
Cheers,
Dan
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 14, 2008, 03:06:53 PM
Post by: Dan O. Anderson on May 14, 2008, 03:40:26 PM
( http://lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productI d=42692-281-15504SM&lpage=none)
It was a major pain in the butt, but it saves me a lot of time at gigs (important) and it looks nice (not important).
Post by: Shane Presley on May 14, 2008, 04:01:51 PM
Post by: Jordan Wolf on May 14, 2008, 04:27:03 PM
| Shane Presley wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 16:01 |
I don't plan on having children, so this is as close as it gets for me... |
As long as you keep them well-fed, I think they'll treat you well when you're older!
Post by: Anton Stjernbrant on May 14, 2008, 05:12:49 PM
Here's mine. They do FOH + four biamped mixes.
Mains rack has an XTA DP226 and three LG amps. Two inputs and two biampet outputs.
Monitor rack has an XTA DP448 and four LG amps. It also has a custom preset for runnit two biamped mains and two monitors for smaller gigs.
Both racks have three-phase power inlets at the back. The powercons aren't connected.
This is the largest I'll go in a while. I rent additional stuff as needed.
Anton
Post by: Rick Stansby on May 14, 2008, 06:29:30 PM
| Donnie Evans wrote on Wed, 14 May 2008 07:00 |
I've always wondered why more people didnt mount their rack-packs in the back of the rack. When I get my amp rack done the way I want it, thats where I'm putting mine. I dont want any cords to have to plug in the front. |
I've always had power panels with quad boxes bolted to rack panels. I just installed my first motion labs racpac. It is so much deeper than my previous panels, that I almost had to put it in front. I had a 12 space rack with 10 spaces of amps and processors. I put the racpac at the bottom in back, as it turned out there was 1/2" gap between the back of the amps and the back of the racpac, so I could pass the IEC connectors up through the gap to plug in the amps. Otherwise I would have had to put the panel in front, because the rear rack "ears" prevented the cables from going out to the sides.
In this picture you can see the gap from the amps in front and the racpac in back (copper color). If the amps were any deeper there would be no gap.
Post by: Charlie Zureki on May 14, 2008, 06:49:18 PM
Not much of a choice for some people,Sound Gear or a family.
Hammer
Post by: andy craig on May 15, 2008, 06:05:55 AM
| Donnie Evans wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 07:06 |
So will those fit in a panel that's pre-punched for NL8's? |
The fixing holes on the square NBL8MPR are identically spaced to the older circular flange NL8.
However....they won't air seal properly on a connector panel that is punched to take EP or Speakon connectors. If the air seal is critical, there is a rubber gasket which will do the job.
The gasket is called SCNLT, and, boy, is it hard to get hold of.
I tried to get some recently and our Neutrik dealer suggested I make them myself! Customer service anyone?
Post by: Mike McNany on May 15, 2008, 09:30:29 AM
Mike McNany
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 15, 2008, 10:23:45 AM
| andy craig wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 06:05 | ||
The fixing holes on the square NBL8MPR are identically spaced to the older circular flange NL8. However....they won't air seal properly on a connector panel that is punched to take EP or Speakon connectors. If the air seal is critical, there is a rubber gasket which will do the job. The gasket is called SCNLT, and, boy, is it hard to get hold of. I tried to get some recently and our Neutrik dealer suggested I make them myself! Customer service anyone? |
http://www.redco.com/shopexd.asp?id=237
Post by: Casey McDonald on May 15, 2008, 10:20:14 PM
Doing Front Of Living Room for now: Stereo three way into some EV PX1122M's for mains and a single homebrew dual 10" (HL10c) horn loaded sub.
Most of the time the rack lives right up against a wall, so all connections out front for me. There's a 1" standoff from the wall due to the caster board out back, so plenty of area for the fans to suck from. That cabling doesn't looks so good bunched up back there, I really should fix that!
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 16, 2008, 11:43:30 AM
| Casey McDonald wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 22:20 |
Doing Front Of Living Room for now: Stereo three way into some EV PX1122M's for mains and a single homebrew dual 10" (HL10c) horn loaded sub. Most of the time the rack lives right up against a wall, so all connections out front for me. There's a 1" standoff from the wall due to the caster board out back, so plenty of area for the fans to suck from. That cabling doesn't looks so good bunched up back there, I really should fix that! |
I hope those are all Pro7200's or 5200's. All on one PL-8???
Post by: Casey McDonald on May 16, 2008, 02:23:38 PM
PL-8 uses the first powercon in from the left, for the Dx-38's, the 5200 (HF), one 7200 (MF), and the powercon out which goes to some other low level electronics like CD player, tuner, etc.
The other two 7200's (SUB) are on their own (the 2nd powercon in), which so far goes straight to a wall outlet.
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 16, 2008, 03:31:59 PM
Post by: Tim Padrick on May 17, 2008, 06:53:38 PM
| Donnie Evans wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 14:31 |
Ahhh... didnt notice that those were powercons.... |
Mmmmmm....PowerCons.
For those who are not familiar with them:
http://www.padrick.net/LiveSound/ACcables/ACcables.htm
http://www.padrick.net/LiveSound/BarDistro/BarDistro.htm
Post by: Brendan Maroney on May 18, 2008, 12:33:48 PM
It's from the theatre I work at.Tape Deck
Lexicon Stereo Effects
Two Sabine Power-Q (EQ/Compressor/Delay)
Denon CD Player
Two Crown CE 1000 Amps
I'll put up a pic of the back if anyone cares. I didn't do the patch bay but i think it was done well.
Brendan
Post by: MARK PAVLETICH on May 19, 2008, 05:13:39 PM
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Post by: Phil LaDue on May 20, 2008, 05:43:00 PM
Post by: Craig Basten on May 21, 2008, 09:51:11 PM
Post by: David Karol on May 24, 2008, 12:31:23 AM
Post by: Mike McNany on May 24, 2008, 12:32:02 PM
Mike McNany
Post by: Josh Oswald on May 24, 2008, 12:36:34 PM
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Post by: David Karol on May 24, 2008, 02:30:29 PM
In regards to the shock-mount rack, the amp rack is only fixed for three months in the summer, after that it moves around. It's like that with all of our equipment.
The Furmans- Once we fill in all the amps, one will probably end up in the middle of the rack, on top of amps at some point. The one on top is "American DJ." I'll be doing a few repairs on that, and then it will probably end up sitting in storage.
Post by: Tim Padrick on May 24, 2008, 06:08:09 PM
| Phil LaDue wrote on Tue, 20 May 2008 16:43 |
Tim, how tall is that monster? |
About 76".
I plan to replace it with a single large rack. I'll then re-do the I/O and add some wireless mics (yuk).
Post by: Phil LaDue on May 24, 2008, 09:03:42 PM
| David Karol wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008 00:31 |
This is the amp rack for our largest theater. We're almost done with a major sound renovation, including a new APB Spectra T. |
I've been up there for the last two days helping out, it looks like a great learning environment for young people in the arts.
I spent a large part of yesterday unpacking, rotating the horns and hanging some of the under balcony fill speakers.(EAW VR61)
Post by: David Karol on May 27, 2008, 01:53:47 PM
| Phil LaDue wrote on Sat, 24 May 2008 21:03 | ||
I've been up there for the last two days helping out, it looks like a great learning environment for young people in the arts. I spent a large part of yesterday unpacking, rotating the horns and hanging some of the under balcony fill speakers.(EAW VR61) |
Hey Phil, we still have to fly the JBL's
Post by: Brian Alleyne on May 27, 2008, 10:09:58 PM
Post by: Lester Moran on May 28, 2008, 10:07:30 AM
| Brian Alleyne wrote on Wed, 28 May 2008 03:09 |
Like to see the racks keep showing them. |
Why not.
Post by: Lester Moran on May 28, 2008, 10:08:39 AM
Post by: Raul Suarez on May 28, 2008, 01:03:47 PM
.Raul Suarez
Third Ear Sound
http://www.thirdearsound.com
Post by: Brian Alleyne on May 28, 2008, 08:46:24 PM
,why did you hurt me 
Post by: Lester Moran on May 28, 2008, 09:23:41 PM
| Brian Alleyne wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 01:46 |
Thirdear that rack is huge made me feel less of a man ,why did you hurt me |
The racks are industrial, and most impressive...
It's the uploaded image that's "HUGE"...
(...and I still love it)... Thanks, Raul!
Les
Post by: Scott Flaws on May 29, 2008, 12:51:04 AM
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:49:42 PM
One of 4 identical racks, each one does 4 kf850 tops and 4 sm 1000 or sb850 subs
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:51:18 PM
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:54:20 PM
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:57:47 PM
This is a 4 mix monitor rack, bi-amped, ready to go. Built 6 of these last week.
Post by: trace knight on May 29, 2008, 09:59:38 PM
My main monitor amp rack is 6 dbx 260's and 12 qsc 2402's all in a double wide rack, heavy bitch she is, but a quick pack. all wired in the same style with a second eq drive rack, side by side of KT sq one eq's.
Post by: Duncan McLennan on May 30, 2008, 09:38:53 AM
Post by: James Henriksen on May 30, 2008, 11:04:46 AM
Post by: Duncan McLennan on May 30, 2008, 11:10:32 AM
| James Henriksen wrote on Fri, 30 May 2008 11:04 |
Looks like an L14-30 to me. Seems like enough power IMO. |
The last one is certainly a 14-30, but I was thinking more of the ones on the racks with eight PLXs.
Post by: Donnie Evans on May 30, 2008, 03:53:05 PM
| trace knight wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 21:59 |
Rear view, same 4 mix rack. Next week, I'll shoot some of the foh drive racks and such.The mic line bundle has now been replaced with a 12 ch. mini snake, which is the in/out of the eq's and 4 return to the crossover inputs, much neater, and freed up a bunch of xlr shorties for other uses. I'll shoot the finished racks if your interested. My main monitor amp rack is 6 dbx 260's and 12 qsc 2402's all in a double wide rack, heavy bitch she is, but a quick pack. all wired in the same style with a second eq drive rack, side by side of KT sq one eq's. |
How come the EQ's weren't wired in this pic? And the x-overs, no power?
Post by: trace knight on May 30, 2008, 05:25:34 PM
tk
Yes, all the power inputs are L14-30. I have no problem running these racks this way, been doing it for years, the trick is just to have good stiff power and adequate feeder size. Most are 8 guage, some of the smaller racks get a 10 guage cable. I've never tripped a dual 30 yet. Now I have to say 50 hail IRON MAIDENS !
Post by: Tim Padrick on May 31, 2008, 04:06:13 AM
| trace knight wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 20:51 |
Rear view of those same racks, very neat and clean! |
That's some industrial strength AC hardware! Nice work.
However: If you are feeding 240 or three phase into the racks, I'm thinking that you should have breakers on the inlet.
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on May 31, 2008, 11:21:36 PM
| Tim Padrick wrote on Sat, 31 May 2008 01:06 |
However: If you are feeding 240 or three phase into the racks, I'm thinking that you should have breakers on the inlet. |
Tim, that makes no sense at all.
Post by: E. Lee Dickinson on June 01, 2008, 12:31:53 AM
Post by: John Horvath on June 01, 2008, 12:53:31 AM
Post by: trace knight on June 01, 2008, 01:16:28 PM
tk
Post by: John Horvath on June 01, 2008, 09:39:50 PM
The MC2 rack is currently running Nexo Alpha. There's another MC2 rack on the other side of the stage. Each rack could run 14 boxes of Alpha, but that's loading the mid-high amp down with 6 M3's. Works a lot better with no more than 3 or 4. We're doing 10 boxes per rack right now.
Middle Crown rack is mixes 1 thru 4. Crown rack 2 is another 4 mix rack, currently running a pair of drum wedges and my cue wedge. Sidefill rack was left on the truck since we're on a teeny-weeny SL100.
Exciting.
Post by: Tim Padrick on June 02, 2008, 04:02:59 AM
| Pascal Pincosy wrote on Sat, 31 May 2008 22:21 | ||
Tim, that makes no sense at all. |
Anytime you are splitting a feed (240 in to dual 120s, or three- phase to triple 120s) the resulting splits should be individually breakered. I doubt code allows it to be done otherwise.
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on June 02, 2008, 05:29:05 AM
| Tim Padrick wrote on Mon, 02 June 2008 01:02 | ||||
Anytime you are splitting a feed (240 in to dual 120s, or three- phase to triple 120s) the resulting splits should be individually breakered. I doubt code allows it to be done otherwise. |
True, but you're looking at the tail and trying to describe the head. You have no idea how Trace's distro is configured. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I see no reason why he couldn't be feeding each L14-30 with 2 single-pole 30 amp breakers.
E. Lee Dickinson, on the other hand, is correct. A L14-30 inlet should not be feeding edison outlets without breakers.
Post by: Paul Reedy on June 02, 2008, 07:56:42 AM
| Vinny D'Agostino wrote on Tue, 25 December 2007 11:15 |
Not many pictures in this topic So here is what I have for my FOH rack, it's not much compaired to what most of you use but it's mine and it's paid for A trusty ole Ashly XR1001 crossover, a PLX3402 powering my RCF ART325i, and my new RMX4050HD powering a pair of Yorkville LS608's. It does the job nicely |
I thought I was seeing double...
This drives some old custom boxes I built many year ago filled with Eminence Kappa Pro LF 15's and Kilomax Pro 18" subs. In retrospect I wished I had looked at a little more efficient driver, but wanted to see what the Kilo's would do, and this is the only amp I have that can really make them kick.
Post by: trace knight on June 02, 2008, 11:50:50 AM
Post by: Dylan Shepherd on June 03, 2008, 10:39:04 AM
How are those Mc2 amps working out on the alpha ?
Are you running the S2 with the mc2 as well?
I've only heard the alpha rig with MA5002 or Camco - I Preferred the MA's.... saying that, both in different rooms, different scale of system etc etc.
P.s n o one run with this and start the what amp sounds better crap
Post by: Toby Mills on June 03, 2008, 10:57:32 PM
We are running just about identical MC2 racks to John except we drive the horns with an E15 or some have an E&W ES2000 (will dig out a photo).
A small number of E45's can drive a large rig in a very low density / weight rack.
The new E-80's look very interesting, I can't wait to get my hands on one and we are slowly in the process of converting monitor racks over to the T4-250.
I like these better than the equivalent Labs and they are around the same price. They are rated slightly lower in output power, but they don't run out of go go juice on those long sustained bass notes like the labs sometimes do at full power.
Post by: Toby Mills on June 03, 2008, 11:00:22 PM
We are running just about identical MC2 racks to John except we drive the horns with an E15 or some have an E&W ES2000 (will dig out a photo).
A small number of E45's can drive a large rig in a very low density / weight rack.
The new E-80's look very interesting, I can't wait to get my hands on one and we are slowly in the process of converting monitor racks over to the T4-250.
I like these better than the equivalent Labs and they are around the same price. They are rated slightly lower in output power, but they don't run out of go go juice on those long sustained bass notes like the labs sometimes do at full power.
Post by: John Horvath on June 04, 2008, 12:02:33 AM
| Dylan Shepherd wrote on Tue, 03 June 2008 09:39 |
Hey John, How are those Mc2 amps working out on the alpha ? Are you running the S2 with the mc2 as well? I've only heard the alpha rig with MA5002 or Camco - I Preferred the MA's.... saying that, both in different rooms, different scale of system etc etc. P.s n o one run with this and start the what amp sounds better crap |
The owner of this particular company doesn't like to sell anything, so he kept all of his old Crest 8001s after putting together the MC2 racks. On lower budget shows, the Crest racks go out, and the general consensus is they sound better. The downside is they have little headroom, just enough to get Alpha going and that's about it. I hate to say because I'm not a big proponent of the 'This amp sounds better than that amp' argument, but if I was forced at gunpoint to comment I would say the MC2 sounds a little tighter, more focused, cleaner. The Crests sound warmer, tubby, loose, but both tubby & loose in a good way. Whatever, it doesn't matter too me, I'm happy with either rack because IMO, it's what we do upstream and the boxes that matter more than amp choice.. Alpha would sound fine if ran with CS800s.
And yes, the S2s are ran with MC2.
Post by: Brian Wynn on June 04, 2008, 12:52:45 AM
| John Horvath wrote on Tue, 03 June 2008 23:02 | ||
The owner of this particular company doesn't like to sell anything, so he kept all of his old Crest 8001s after putting together the MC2 racks. On lower budget shows, the Crest racks go out, and the general consensus is they sound better. The downside is they have little headroom, just enough to get Alpha going and that's about it. I hate to say because I'm not a big proponent of the 'This amp sounds better than that amp' argument, but if I was forced at gunpoint to comment I would say the MC2 sounds a little tighter, more focused, cleaner. The Crests sound warmer, tubby, loose, but both tubby & loose in a good way. Whatever, it doesn't matter too me, I'm happy with either rack because IMO, it's what we do upstream and the boxes that matter more than amp choice.. Alpha would sound fine if ran with CS800s. And yes, the S2s are ran with MC2. |
John would know he just changed all of his amps in his Alpha rig to CS800's.
Post by: Steve Kunkle on June 05, 2008, 03:09:21 AM
Current Set-up:
Pl 230 highs
pl 6.0 II Mids
Pl 6.0 II Subs
Pl 6.0 II More subs
New Set-up:
Pl 230 highs
Pl 236 High Mids
pl 6.0 II Low Mids
Pl 6.0 II Subs
Pl 6.0 II More subs
End Result one HEAVY amp rack... thank god they arent macrotechs
Post by: Sean T. Stevenson on June 07, 2008, 12:50:16 PM
This is an older photograph - there is now a third amp (a QSC3102) below the others shown. Now before anyone gets on me about the Behringer gear, you should know that this is not a working sound rig, nor is it for performance.
This is my guitar practice / jamming rig at home.
Post by: Brian Alleyne on June 07, 2008, 09:32:25 PM
Post by: Tom Manchester on June 10, 2008, 10:38:03 PM
- 6x passive outputs
- 2x subs, 2x passive tops, 2x passive monitors
- 2x subs, 2x bi-amp mains
- 2x subs, mono tri-amp tops (with use of NL8 breakout)
- and many more!
Post by: Tom Manchester on June 10, 2008, 10:38:59 PM
Post by: Pete Sams on June 11, 2008, 05:03:04 PM
Post by: Pete Sams on June 11, 2008, 05:05:50 PM
Post by: Victor Kouli on June 11, 2008, 11:24:49 PM
Post by: Mike Kirkpatrick on June 11, 2008, 11:39:33 PM
| Victor Kouli wrote on Wed, 11 June 2008 23:24 |
And by the looks of it every single amp is plugged into a Furman power strip? |
A 15amp strip at that
What ya mixin ? Bluegrass ?
Post by: John William on June 15, 2008, 08:36:47 AM
Post by: Mike McNany on June 15, 2008, 09:51:08 AM
Can't decide which amplifier brand you like?
Or rack style, for that matter?
Consistancy makes for simplicity of operation, and looks best, too
Mike McNany
Post by: Brian Alleyne on June 15, 2008, 10:18:10 AM
Post by: John William on June 15, 2008, 01:12:10 PM
| Mike McNany wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 08:51 |
John, Can't decide which amplifier brand you like? Or rack style, for that matter? Consistancy makes for simplicity of operation, and looks best, too Mike McNany |
Nah! I operate in a lot of different markets with my PA gear, so need lots of different amps + racks for all the configurations of speakers i use. My racks look great!
Post by: Evan Kirkendall on June 15, 2008, 05:13:54 PM
| John Kobe wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 13:12 | ||
Nah! I operate in a lot of different markets with my PA gear, so need lots of different amps + racks for all the configurations of speakers i use. My racks look great! |
Except for all the random tape on the amps...
Evan
Post by: John Horvath on June 15, 2008, 08:58:51 PM
| John Kobe wrote on Sun, 15 June 2008 12:12 |
I operate in a lot of different markets with my PA gear, so need lots of different amps.. |
So there's a market out there where it makes sense to use a Chevin running one thing, and a Peavey running something else on the same show? Or a nice BSS processor hooked up with a piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp? Sorry, no company needs six different brands of amplifier, other than companies that don't care about uniformity & consistancy in their equipment's function, usability, troubleshootability, and appearance. A company needs maybe two brands - The higher-end A/B rig type amps, and the lower-end or old inventory C/D rig amps that you keep around to send out on low budget shows.
Post by: Dylan Shepherd on June 15, 2008, 09:01:31 PM
| John Horvath wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 10:58 | ||
So there's a market out there where it makes sense to use a Chevin running one thing, and a Peavey running something else on the same show? Or a nice BSS processor hooked up with a piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp? Sorry, no company needs six different brands of amplifier, other than companies that don't care about uniformity & consistancy in their equipment's function, usability, troubleshootability, and appearance. A company needs maybe two brands - The higher-end A/B rig type amps, and the lower-end or old inventory C/D rig amps that you keep around to send out on low budget shows. |
You said what i was thinking.....
Post by: Aaron Kovacik on June 15, 2008, 09:44:04 PM
"piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp?"
I'm starting to get really sick of all the people brand bashing around here. I work in my job with top of the line equipment. D&B, L'acoustics, Dolby Lakes, Crown, QSC, Lab Gruppen, Midas and the list goes on and on. I also own my own gear, which is not full of such esteemed names. I do own some behringer (oooo, i said it...) and plenty of other lower end gear. Is it the best? NO. Does it work for what I need? Yes. Maybe we could have discussion instead of bashing on him....i think Mike had the right idea....he wasn't accusing, he was just suggesting.
I won't comment any further, cause I'm sure you will have lots of clever arguments to use against me, but I really can't spend all my time writing about why you guys should play nice.
-Aaron
Post by: David Luscombe on June 15, 2008, 09:47:57 PM
| Aaron Kovacik wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 11:44 |
Quit ripping on the guy, if they were your racks you could change them. If they work for him then let them work for him. Who cares what it looks like, most of the people listening wont even know the difference. He posted this in this thread, which resides in the lounge, give the guy a break. Just cause you can afford to have all pretty Crown, QSC or what ever other brand makes you feel sufficient, doesn't mean you have to bash on a guy who can't afford, or better yet, does not find it economical enough to purchase that kind of inventory. IF IT DIDN'T MAKE HIM MONEY HE WOULD CHANGE. (correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you will) "piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp?" I'm starting to get really sick of all the people brand bashing around here. I work in my job with top of the line equipment. D&B, L'acoustics, Dolby Lakes, Crown, QSC, Lab Gruppen, Midas and the list goes on and on. I also own my own gear, which is not full of such esteemed names. I do own some behringer (oooo, i said it...) and plenty of other lower end gear. Is it the best? NO. Does it work for what I need? Yes. Maybe we could have discussion instead of bashing on him....i think Mike had the right idea....he wasn't accusing, he was just suggesting. I won't comment any further, cause I'm sure you will have lots of clever arguments to use against me, but I really can't spend all my time writing about why you guys should play nice. -Aaron |
yep you said exactly what i was thinking. i for one don't post pics of my stuff because it will only lead to bashing.
if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all(except if it is constructive and usefull and said in a nice manner).
cheers dave
cheers dave
Post by: John Horvath on June 15, 2008, 10:52:59 PM
And yes, I bashed the B*hringer EQ and I'd do it again. Those particular EQ's are, well I won't say it again. However, I still love the DEQ2496, and even the DCX2496 when it's not crackling. And I owned Composers, Autoquads, and Multigates for many years, and I still don't mind using them.
And my post was constructive - Sometimes it takes a few 'not so polite' comments for someone to get organized.
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:19:33 PM
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:20:46 PM
Ignore the dodgy power board, I'm still waiting on my electrician to build me some Powercon strips to mount in the rack and tidy it all up even more.
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:21:37 PM
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:23:12 PM
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 16, 2008, 09:26:24 PM
2 x QSC PL230 (L+R for 7 box/side Martin W8LM array)
1 x QSC PL380 (2 x Martin WS218X subs)
1 x QSC PL218 (Front fills that are waiting to be replaced with a better option)
1 x Dolby Lake 8in/8out
Post by: Dan Brown on June 16, 2008, 11:51:12 PM
| Tony Peaker wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 20:19 |
Here are my rack pics. We just finished our monitor rack redesign so we can do 4 mixes with parallels on inputs and outputs as well as an NL8 for 4 mixes to a 4 output drop box. snip picture |
Unfortunately you didn't need such a big amp.
I am sure it is fine but the processor will just limit it way early.
a Tecton 28.2 would have been fine.
The rated amp output will give you the rated peak SPL as listed.
FYI.
never bad to have more than enough but you may have been able to buy a little more.
db
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 17, 2008, 12:50:24 AM
| Dan Brown wrote on Tue, 17 June 2008 13:51 |
Unfortunately you didn't need such a big amp. I am sure it is fine but the processor will just limit it way early. a Tecton 28.2 would have been fine. The rated amp output will give you the rated peak SPL as listed. FYI. never bad to have more than enough but you may have been able to buy a little more. db |
Yep, I know all that. When we were buying there were no Tecton 28.2's in the country and the cost of getting them in was the same as the 38.4. Also, we are looking at PS15's to add to the inventory which will use the 38.4's also.
Post by: Karel 'Charly' Will on June 17, 2008, 09:25:26 AM
I presume you control the lake with your computer, but still I find it strange that you put the patch panel above the lake, with the cables hiding the controls. I would have mounted the lake on top of your rack, so you could reach it more easily.
Other than that, nice racks!
Karel Will
Post by: Dan Brown on June 17, 2008, 10:41:32 AM
| Tony Peaker wrote on Mon, 16 June 2008 23:50 | ||
Yep, I know all that. When we were buying there were no Tecton 28.2's in the country and the cost of getting them in was the same as the 38.4. Also, we are looking at PS15's to add to the inventory which will use the 38.4's also. |
Well there you go.
The 38.4 should be a good fit for the PS15's
Looks like your upgrades are going well.
db
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 17, 2008, 06:22:58 PM
| Quote: |
Karel 'Charly' Will Hi Tony, I presume you control the lake with your computer, but still I find it strange that you put the patch panel above the lake, with the cables hiding the controls. I would have mounted the lake on top of your rack, so you could reach it more easily. |
The rack itself actually sits on top of our patch bay at the venue so putting the Lake right at the top would actually mean that it would be unuseable
But yeah, we control everything on the Lake with a tablet pc so the only time I have to touch the controls are during power up.
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 17, 2008, 06:28:36 PM
The 38.4 should be a good fit for the PS15's
Looks like your upgrades are going well.
db[/quote]
We currently have 3 38.4's with 6 PS10's in our rig. The plan is to hopefully get two 28.2's and 3 mirrored pairs of PS15's with 3 PS15 TD controllers. The racks should then look like this:
4 Mix PS15 Rack
2 x Camco 38.4
2 x PS15 TD Controller
4 Mix PS10 Rack
2 x Camco 28.2
2 x PS10 TD Controller
2 Mix PS10 or PS15 rack (Portable for those crappy little gigs)
1 x Camco 38.4
1 x PS10 TD Controller
1 x PS15 TD Controller
Post by: John William on June 17, 2008, 07:35:06 PM
| John Horvath wrote |
And yes, I bashed the B*hringer EQ and I'd do it again. Those particular EQ's are, well I won't say it again. However, I still love the DEQ2496, and even the DCX2496 when it's not crackling. And I owned Composers, Autoquads, and Multigates for many years, and I still don't mind using them. And my post was constructive - Sometimes it takes a few 'not so polite' comments for someone to get organized. |
Your post is not constructive in the slightest, not that anyone asked you to "organise" this thread anyway!! This is a thread to post pics of amp racks which i did, not to bash equipment and call "bullshit" on me as you did, and quoted me as saying something that i didn't (i never said that I "designed it that way")
| John Horvath wrote |
So there's a market out there where it makes sense to use a Chevin running one thing, and a Peavey running something else on the same show? Or a nice BSS processor hooked up with a piece of shit B*hr*nger EQ and a Peavey amp? Sorry, no company needs six different brands of amplifier. |
you know nothing of my company and market so your blanket statment is naive, the little Chevin amp runs some 1"horns and the peavey runs the mids, is that such a strange concept to you!
thanks David and Aaron, as you mentioned correctly what the guy above does not realise is all the amps in the pics I posted work perfectly and make good money.
Post by: Mark Dawson on June 18, 2008, 07:31:49 AM
Post by: John Cameron on June 18, 2008, 10:31:03 PM
Post by: David Buehler on June 19, 2008, 02:52:54 AM
Post by: Brian Alleyne on June 19, 2008, 09:35:13 PM
Post by: Scott Smith on June 19, 2008, 10:17:57 PM
| David Buehler wrote on Thu, 19 June 2008 02:52 |
here's mine, been posted here before... |
David, you NEED to resize your photo to appropriate size! It's off the screen!
800 pixels wide or less is good...
Post by: Ernie Bellamy on June 20, 2008, 11:50:12 AM
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Post by: Silas Pradetto on June 20, 2008, 04:47:16 PM
Post by: Tim Kartes on June 23, 2008, 01:59:39 AM
Just my little weekend toy box
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on June 23, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
Where did you get those rack drawers?
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 24, 2008, 01:45:11 AM
| Ernie Bellamy wrote on Sat, 21 June 2008 01:50 |
Now if im reading it correctly, you are powering 14 w8lm's with just 2 amps. |
That's correct. We are running them passive so the top PL230 handles Left & Right top 4 boxes and the bottom PL230 handles Left a& Right bottom 3 boxes.
It's not ideal and I would love to run them active with an amp channel for 2 sets of 3 boxes and a separate one for the downfill (W8LMD) but I can't fit any more amps into the space available.
Maybe if I get my upgrades to the venue patching system that I want and can move the amps to a better spot I'll go active with the rig but for now it's fine.
Post by: Ernie Bellamy on June 24, 2008, 01:16:40 PM
Post by: Tony Peaker on June 24, 2008, 06:05:14 PM
I do have to spend some time as soon as we get a gap in our schedule (currently I have 15 free days left between now and the end of the year) to tweak the crossover point between the W8LM's and the WS218X's. I'm not 100% convinced that the 8" drivers can really handle the 70Hz crossover that Martin specs.
If I had my druthers I would have switched over to the Nexo Geo S12 rig that I wanted last year but unfortunately the budget didn't run to that. So, for now I get along happily with this system
Post by: Silas Pradetto on July 07, 2008, 07:54:28 PM
| Pascal Pincosy wrote on Mon, 23 June 2008 15:02 |
Hey Silas, Where did you get those rack drawers? |
They're Audiopile brand. Only problem with them is they don't stay closed unless you lock them. I have one Middle Atlantic drawer at FOH, and while it's 3 times the $, I'd buy them from now on.
Post by: Pascal Pincosy on July 07, 2008, 08:02:33 PM
| Silas Pradetto wrote on Mon, 07 July 2008 16:54 | ||
They're Audiopile brand. Only problem with them is they don't stay closed unless you lock them. I have one Middle Atlantic drawer at FOH, and while it's 3 times the $, I'd buy them from now on. |
Huh. I have a recently-purchased Audiopile rack drawer with an entirely different handle. It has no problem staying closed, and the latch is very similar to the Middle Atlantic drawer.
And I really don't like those latches...
Thanks for the reply!
Post by: Silas Pradetto on July 07, 2008, 09:49:01 PM
Post by: Simon Stavenuiter on July 08, 2008, 08:36:49 AM
JBL SRX 4 send Passive monitor sleeve - FP10K+
JBL VRX/SRX Stereo 2 Way Rack with 4 Sends passive monitors - PLM10K+ and FP10K+
Nexo GeoS Amp Rack - 2 x NX241 and 4 x FP13K+
Post by: Chris Gruber on July 08, 2008, 12:30:32 PM
Post by: Matt Duncan on July 08, 2008, 12:40:24 PM
I'm on ears, & the rest of the band is currently on wedges. However, I've almost got two other members ready to take the iem plunge, but, the bassist is broke so he'll stick with a wedge for now.
Specs:
Yamaha 01V96v2
Digimax FS
Sennheiser EW300IEM G2
Furman PM-8 II
QSC PLX2 1804
EWI 2spc drawer
EWI case
patchpanel & hardwired split
custom power distro with powercons, & quadbox stringers
(not pictured since this is rack porn, not rig porn)
QSC HPR 181i subs
QSC HPR 122i tops
Yamaha ClubV wedges (on the list to purchase next)
I also need to get a few more blank panels to clean up the looks.
front
rear
Post by: Jeff Robinson on July 08, 2008, 01:08:46 PM
KC Women's Chorus at St. Theresa's Academy.
The bottom rack has a Crown XTI4000, 2 XLS402's and 1 Crest 1001 with a McLellan crossover.
Jeff Robinson
Post by: Dylan Shepherd on July 09, 2008, 06:58:27 AM
How about a 'Truck Porn' thread.
Sometimes 9 pages of amps gets a bit boring
Post by: Tate_Tullis on July 09, 2008, 07:11:41 PM
| Dylan Shepherd wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 05:58 |
Is this still going on? How about a 'Truck Porn' thread. Sometimes 9 pages of amps gets a bit boring |
lol truck porn. haha. totally going to go take a picture of our truck now haha
Post by: Steve Hurt on July 09, 2008, 10:09:05 PM
| Dylan Shepherd wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 06:58 |
Is this still going on? How about a 'Truck Porn' thread. Sometimes 9 pages of amps gets a bit boring |
How about an "overpacked vehicle" thread.
My van often is packed as tight as a clown car at the circus
Post by: John Cameron on July 09, 2008, 10:17:41 PM
| Steve Hurt wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 22:09 | ||
How about an "overpacked vehicle" thread. My van often is packed as tight as a clown car at the circus |
Start one, I've got a few pics to add
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Post by: jason burk on August 05, 2008, 06:03:10 PM
16 ch. mixwiz
the first 4 auxes go through the 2 1231 eq's which then go to the qsc mx1500a amps on the bottom that are then going to 4 of my community xlt48m wedges.
then the 5th aux goes to the 2031 eq that goes to my qsc hpr 18 sub and 3 way top for drum fill
then aux 6 doesnt have an eq on it yet, but if necessary, ill throw a srm450 "rover" as an add on mix.
then i got a 16 channel split panel that i wired.
i dont have pics of the back yet, but it's pretty nice.
speakons are screwed into the back bottom of the case. and if someone wants to use an in ear line, then i dont have to disconnect anything. ill just come out of the alternate 1/4 out on the eq. so its a cool setup just heavy.
Post by: . on February 27, 2009, 07:02:14 PM
| andy craig wrote on Thu, 15 May 2008 05:05 | ||
The fixing holes on the square NBL8MPR are identically spaced to the older circular flange NL8. However....they won't air seal properly on a connector panel that is punched to take EP or Speakon connectors. If the air seal is critical, there is a rubber gasket which will do the job. The gasket is called SCNLT, and, boy, is it hard to get hold of. I tried to get some recently and our Neutrik dealer suggested I make them myself! Customer service anyone? |
Old post I realize, but I've always had good luck finding obscure Neutrik parts from Full Compass.
Here is the gasket you're looking for.
http://www.fullcompass.com/search.php?search_simple=true& ;txtAll=SCNLT
Post by: chris fletchall on March 11, 2009, 10:19:54 PM
Post by: chris fletchall on March 11, 2009, 10:25:09 PM
Post by: JonathanSmith on March 11, 2009, 11:04:30 PM
| Steve Hurt wrote on Wed, 09 July 2008 20:09 | ||
How about an "overpacked vehicle" thread. My van often is packed as tight as a clown car at the circus |
I don't have many truck pack pictures, but this was the tour I was on in 2002. We had to pack the truck 3 times before hitting the road so we could get the weight distributed properly. When all was said and done, we weighed 79,800lbs with the driver and full fuel tanks. We were close enough to being overweight that we had to put our boxes of batteries for our 24 wireless units in the bus.
Post by: Mike Kirkpatrick on March 11, 2009, 11:11:16 PM
Also before it was reliable Affectionately know as the space shuttle.
Post by: Marjan Milosevic on March 12, 2009, 07:21:11 AM
Post by: Mike Kirkpatrick on March 12, 2009, 07:36:05 AM
| Marjan Milosevic(MarjanM) wrote on Thu, 12 March 2009 07:21 |
Which mixes is that? I dont recognize it. |
That's a midi controller. I don't remember what model it was as things were changing week to week with this rig. The monitors were touchscreens so it was just as easy to use those. The whole system ran on 2, 700hz PC's each loaded with Yamaha DSP factory cards.