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Title: HD Live event web streaming
Post by: Clayton Luckie on August 18, 2010, 04:34:14 PM
Is anyone doing any HD web streaming of live events? I'm looking into how to get that done. I can't seem to find a good HD capture hardware solution that will work with a range of programs. I'm looking at services like Ustream to handle the server side of things, but I can't find an HD capture unit that would work with a program like Ustream. Both the Matrox and MOTU units say they are made to work with Final Cut/Premiere, and not made for live streaming. I'm also looking at possibly using Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder. Basically I want a hardware capture solution that would work with a range of software.
For signal, I'd want to be able to take in YPbPr, RGBHV, or HD-SDI, as well as SD formats. The concept is that I would take a feed from a single camera or from a truck and stream that. No switching is needed on my end. 720p would be fine. Mac or PC, but preferably PC.
I'd love to be able to find a solution that would work with a laptop (firewire, usb, or ExpressCard), but a desktop solution would be okay too. I'd love to keep the hardware in the sub-$5000 range, although the HD Tricasters look nice ($20k+)
It seems like there are a few hundred ways to ingest and stream live SD video, but very few for HD.
Thanks
cl
Title: Re: HD Live event web streaming
Post by: Ken Freeman on August 18, 2010, 05:14:39 PM
HD Tricasters look nice ($20k+) and they work. Just used them in conjunction with a CDN. Think if you need to own this because you are doing it every day, or just rent it once in a while.
Ken
Title: Re: HD Live event web streaming
Post by: Brian K Tennyson, CTS-D on August 23, 2010, 11:23:25 AM
HaiVision's Makito ingest HD video and streams a standard H.264 stream that can be read by about anything. HD-SDI or DVI-I/Component versions available. Run you about 9k.
You can get single card frames, 1U 6 card frames or 4U 21 card frames. There is also a decoder now available.
Disclaimer: I am a HaiVision rep and don't typically post about products that sell. But I did this time. Let me know if that is a problem for you.
Title: Re: HD Live event web streaming
Post by: E. Lee Dickinson on August 23, 2010, 05:21:57 PM
Ken Freeman wrote on Wed, 18 August 2010 17:14
HD Tricasters look nice ($20k+) and they work. Just used them in conjunction with a CDN. Think if you need to own this because you are doing it every day, or just rent it once in a while.
Ken
+1. We got 'em, we use 'em. And we use them with u-stream who, awfully conveniently, has a video tutorial on their site for streaming with a tricaster instead of with their web ap.
We used to make a lot of money reselling streaming bandwidth.. not so much, with UStream in the world.
*Edit to add: We bought a used Video Toaster (our third one, having started back in the Amiga days) for $2,000. Newtek offered us a $10,000 trade in value on it for the new HD Tricaster. Talk about ROI...
Title: Re: HD Live event web streaming
Post by: Jason Jacoby, CTS on October 19, 2010, 09:00:37 AM
Take a look at either Viewcast or Digital-Rapids. Both offer hardware live streaming devices in your price range. I've seen both in action and the results are excellent.
Title: Re: HD Live event web streaming
Post by: Glen Kelley on November 17, 2010, 03:40:58 PM
There are Mac and PC versions available. You would need some way to get the video into your laptop (ie. Analog/Digital video -> Firewire). Some nice features, including screen capture via network with an add-in called Screencast, can support most common encoding formats.
Free demo with watermarked audio/video. It takes a while to figure out how the product works and how to create composite images, etc. but has some basic templates that work well enough.
Haivision and V-brick both have appliances, but the HD versions are $$$$$.
Ooops. Misread this you are looking for ingest hardware not software. Sorry. It's still a cool product.